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So in the uk they showed episode 1 and 2 of Season 3 and I loved it.
What is it with Niki/Tracy. Now that woman is really confusing. Mohinder has powers I wonder what power is this. Hiro is cute and adorable as always.
The bit with Sylar and Clarie creeps me out. poor girl. I think Linderman is Matt's dad trying to play Nathan's mind.
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I'm gonna say that the shocking new person in next week's episode is Petrelli Prime
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Semi-running commentarySo, there's triplets: Tracy, Nikki & Barbara. Nikki is dead, right... last season... wonder if we'll meet Barbara later?? Why did they replay the short scene of Parkman with the African, doing the spiritual bit where he can see/paint the future? Scrimping much since it was played end of last ep? Future Claire (brunette - hot!) ... is she working for The Company? (PS I'm having total eyelash jealousy... they better be fake or i'll be really angry) Molly! I forgot about her... ohhh yeah Why can't Hiro teleport himself out of the jail cell? The baddies on Level 5 last episode could still flare fire from their hands etc, so i'ts not like their powers are stopped when they're inside the building.... lame~! Just an excuse for Ando to get mad at him bla bla bla ahh it's SO not a rash.. silly man.. you have crazy exoskeleton growing out of your skin! oh and how's Current Peter going to go back in time now that he's stuck in the future since Future Peter got shot?? Like Gabriel/Sylar wouldn't notice the horrible scar is missing frmo his face earlier? YEaaaahh.. smart kid, Noah, picking it out! (Noah, hey.. now that's an interesting association...) Who's the mommy??? ok ok Parker and Daphne? New baby? Urghh... Ewww spidey-goo!! ok whoaaa at a whole lotta stuff happening with Peter and Nathan in the future.. Ha President? ... and killed!! Damn, not fast enough.. lol @ spirit guide!! - "Is it because I kicked you?" i love the episode of the simpsons with the insane chilli, it's my favourite Ando and Hiro are so lame compared to everyone else now.  oh except that last bit.. HEE yay he's back...
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Juliet

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That was a very good episode and very intresting on the futute. Yeah some in some way it has to be changed. ahh it's SO not a rash.. silly man.. you have crazy exoskeleton growing out of your skin!
He is turning into a mutant. ok ok Parker and Daphne? New baby? Urghh...
I am thinking the same thing.
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So, there's triplets: Tracy, Nikki & Barbara. Nikki is dead, right... last season... wonder if we'll meet Barbara later?? No doubt. And when the writers get tired of her, we'll discover that there are more of them.  Why can't Hiro teleport himself out of the jail cell? The baddies on Level 5 last episode could still flare fire from their hands etc, so i'ts not like their powers are stopped when they're inside the building.... lame~! Just an excuse for Ando to get mad at him bla bla bla I'm guessing that the Hatian was standing right outside the whole time. oh and how's Current Peter going to go back in time now that he's stuck in the future since Future Peter got shot?? Current Peter can time travel too. In fact, he's already back in the present at the end of the episode. lol @ spirit guide!! - "Is it because I kicked you?" i love the episode of the simpsons with the insane chilli, it's my favourite Heh. I thought of the same thing. Ando and Hiro are so lame compared to everyone else now. oh except that last bit.. HEE yay he's back... Yeah, and after only four episodes too. I mean, we knew he'd be back eventually, but really...
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I'd just like to point out that at no point should Peter lose in a fight. Stop time + invisible = God combo.
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Peter always annoy me
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What annoys me with peter is that the writers treat his character like play-doh, just adapting his personality to the situation. The only constant is the whining. Also, why can he be hurt? Did he lose Claire's ability and I wasn't paying attention? The personality thing they do with all the characters to an extent.. they've flipped Mrs. Petrelli's switch back from "good" to "evil" this season, but given her power is dreaming the future we can safely assume by end-of-season they'll flip it back to good by showing it was somehow necessary to save the future, not that it makes a fuck of a difference since they'll no doubt go through at least 2 more futures this season and more next.
That's the other thing that annoys me. The future in Heroes isn't just changeable, it's disposable, while the past apparently cannot be affected - except future-you may come to the present to change your future, which is his present, and his present is somehow less real than our present, so this is possible - though the future-you will inevitably die soon after.
You know, now that I think about it, it's starting to sound like Bender's Big Score.
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Sylar Gabriel Sylar is the reason why I come back to the show each week. That's why I didn't like Season 2.
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Seriously guys, Jess was the best thing on Gilmore Girls.
On topic, I say Sylar and Peter make a super-team. That way we could also get rid of some characters. Like the internet-lady, what happened to her?
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I second that WTF. Was nice to see Bubbles back on TV though, even if it was only for this episode. There were quite a few sticking points for me in this one. First is the whole Linderman thing. Ok maybe he is dead and it as all Parkman Sr work but then how did he heal from the gun shots?
I thought Noah would have known that Sylar had super hearing.
I will guess that Hiro did some time trickery to set Ando up with a blood back and such or that bit will make no sense for the character
On the bright side we may finally be rid of Maya. so yay
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Interresting episode, I second the WTF?? To be honest, I always thought it was Peter who healed Nathan, and was kind of surprised when Linderman showed up. I don't know if Peter (in this case, future-peter) had a chance to absorb that power. It would be awesome.
I really hope Ando doesn't die, and Hiro did some trick just to make it look like he killed him, because we're soon running out of "normal" people now. I feel that we need some important people without power. We still have Noah, though. Oh, and one question which actually concerns season one, so I won't put it in spoilers. When the haitan and Noah first went to pick up Nathan (When he had sleapt with Jessica/Nicki and that stuff), Nathan flew away. How could he when the Haitan was around? They should have known that he could do that.
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« Reply #428 on: 10-14-2008 21:01 »
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The same reason that Hiro doesn't use his ability to fix every mistake he makes. For fuck's sake, he reverses time half a dozen times while letting Adam out of the coffin, then when adam escapes it just doesn't even occur to him?
re: Ando, I assume his intention is to use his ability to bring him back later, though if so it's a stupid plan since doing so will change history undoing whatever he accomplishes after killing him.
re: sylar and super-hearing, it seemed like Sylar (and the writers) forgot he has it too, his reaction didn't seem to indicate he heard the conversation, he just looked confused and suspicious.
Frankly as annoying as a lot of this stuff is, I'm not really that surprised; the "why didn't he use his power" thing happens at least once in every episode with Hiro (and most episodes with peter or sylar) in them, and I expected a shitload of arbitrary character rewrites the minute I heard they were doign the whole "Heroes: Villians" thing for season 3 (and again, they did the same thing in season 2, though to a lesser extent)
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I'd just like to point out that at no point should Peter lose in a fight. Stop time + invisible = God combo. God combo - any brains whatsoever = Peter's still an idiot. In fact I was never a huge fan of Peter and he is really starting annoye me now, he should also be told that making your voice slightly gravelly does not make you dark or evil it just makes him sound silly. Off topic I know, but Christian Bale needs to be told this as well. they've flipped Mrs. Petrelli's switch back from "good" to "evil" this season, but given her power is dreaming the future we can safely assume by end-of-season they'll flip it back to good by showing it was somehow necessary to save the future, She hasn't changed sides; she's always been an "ends justify the means" type of person. That's the other thing that annoys me. The future in Heroes isn't just changeable, it's disposable, while the past apparently cannot be affected - except future-you may come to the present to change your future, which is his present, and his present is somehow less real than our present, so this is possible - though the future-you will inevitably die soon after. Minor nitpick: the past can be changed. Hiro changed it in season one when he went back in time and met Charlie six months before she was killed. Also, it was made pretty clear in season two that he could have changed the past to prevent his father from being killed, but he chose not to. That's an important distinction. Sorry, but Peter will always be that jackass guy Jess from Gilmore Girls to me. I didn't even realize that that was who he was until I read your post. From now on, whenever Peter does something stupid I'm going to imagine Luke pushing him into the lake. Like the internet-lady, what happened to her? According to the online comic books, she died but her mind is still alive on the internet or something. First is the whole Linderman thing. Ok maybe he is dead and it as all Parkman Sr work but then how did he heal from the gun shots?
As Hakon already said, it was future Peter who healed Nathan with his blood. I thought Noah would have known that Sylar had super hearing.
He was probably hoping that the guy would comply quickly enough that Sylar wouldn't be able to do anything about it even if he did hear. Really though, instead of threatening him at gunpoint, it would have made more sense to take the guy into custody peacefully and bring up the whole "kill Sylar" thing later. You'll catch more flies with honey, Noah. I will guess that Hiro did some time trickery to set Ando up with a blood back and such or that bit will make no sense for the character
And he must have done a pretty good job of it to fool Daphne's superfast senses, or else she's in on the trick, which would be an interesting twist. On the bright side we may finally be rid of Maya. so yay
She appeared to still be conscious though. Couldn't she just use her power on Mohinder again? I really hope Ando doesn't die, and Hiro did some trick just to make it look like he killed him, because we're soon running out of "normal" people now.
Not to mention actual heroes. Aside from Matt and his new friend in Africa, Hiro and Ando are all we have left.
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She hasn't changed sides; she's always been an "ends justify the means" type of person. Ok, fair enough, perhaps she doesn't really change but the writers go out of the way to set the scenes up to make her seem to flip back and forth.
Yes, she'll side with whoever she thinks will serve her purposes. She's been consistently portrayed as someone who will do anything, no matter how horribly evil, as long as it will lead to what she sees as a greater good. Minor nitpick: the past can be changed. Hiro changed it in season one when he went back in time and met Charlie six months before she was killed. Also, it was made pretty clear in season two that he could have changed the past to prevent his father from being killed, but he chose not to. That's an important distinction. yeah, like ralph I'm fond of hyperbole. And for completeness, I must point out that Hiro also spent months in ancient japan, without apparently having any impact on the future whatsoever (except hiding the scrolls in the sword, which somehow miraculously went undetected until Ando noticed). Maybe it's just me, but I'd think having Hiro (and his powers) there from the begining when he discovered his own powers (not to mention stealing his girl) would've had some effect on the course of Adam's life.
Ah, but Hiro had already gone back in time before we found out anything about Adam at all. The past had already been changed. And yes, the thing with the scrolls was just a lame plot device used both to frame the Hiro in the past scenes, and to give Ando some screentime.
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