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Bobby King

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« Reply #200 on: 08-16-2003 04:06 »

very nice
aslate

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« Reply #201 on: 08-16-2003 08:42 »

 
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Originally posted by alexvilagosh:
 
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Originally posted by Mercapto:
It's designed for Illustrator, but you can use the same basic technique in Photoshop and Paint Shop Pro.

The first tutorial uses bezier curves for tracing while the latter one use a free-hand approach. I prefer bezier curves, but for avatars it doesn't matter much which method you use.
But I'm retarded! What are bezier curves, and how can I get them in Photoshop 7?


Use a photoshop tutorial instead, or download PSP 7 (Or 8).

kelso

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« Reply #202 on: 08-19-2003 22:41 »
« Last Edit on: 08-19-2003 22:41 »

My Second attempt at an icon.
sheep555

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« Reply #203 on: 08-20-2003 11:12 »

You should post your own avatars in this thread, not here  smile

But here's some advice...your avatar is saved as a JPG - because all avatars should really use transparancy (or fill up the entire 64x64), you need to use a GIF file. When you save it, you have to tell your graphics programme to make the white parts of the avatar (in this case) transparent. Because white can be quite common in avatars, I normally use a colour that is rarely used, such as luminous green.


So, you'd take this:



...and turn it into this:



Notice how it doesn't look as crisp as the other avys you might see...this is because either you've gaussian blurred it (something I wouldn't normally do on an avy), or it's something to do with the JPG artifacts.

But it's looking good  smile
sheep555

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« Reply #204 on: 08-20-2003 11:14 »
« Last Edit on: 08-20-2003 11:14 »

I'm double posting (sorry!   smile ) so I can get a grey background on the post, to properly illustrate transparancy (because you can't really tell much difference above, due to the fact it had a white background to start with)


So, you'd take this:



...and turn it into this:


LaVaLaDy

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« Reply #205 on: 08-20-2003 16:42 »

i made my avatar in the imac paintshop now how do I get it to be my avatar?
Margarita

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« Reply #206 on: 08-20-2003 16:46 »

 
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Originally posted by LaVaLaDy:
i made my avatar in the imac paintshop now how do I get it to be my avatar?

1) it should be 64x64 GIF
2) post it in Offtopic Avatars thread with words "add to custom"
LaVaLaDy

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« Reply #207 on: 08-20-2003 16:52 »
« Last Edit on: 08-20-2003 16:52 »

how do i make it into a gif? (im sorry for being an idiot)  confused
Futurama_Hil

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« Reply #208 on: 08-20-2003 19:36 »

i think you have to click "save for web" or something like that. correct me if I'm wrong.
Margarita

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« Reply #209 on: 08-20-2003 21:24 »

just post it here - i'll edit it for you.
sheep555

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« Reply #210 on: 08-21-2003 14:14 »

 
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Originally posted by LaVaLaDy:
i made my avatar in the imac paintshop now how do I get it to be my avatar?

Do you mean AppleWorks?
LaVaLaDy

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« Reply #211 on: 08-21-2003 16:17 »

yeah can you help
Margarita

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« Reply #212 on: 08-21-2003 16:34 »

just.post.it.here
LaVaLaDy

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« Reply #213 on: 08-22-2003 17:22 »
« Last Edit on: 08-22-2003 17:22 »

I dont know how. Im really stumped on how to post an image from my computer(its an imac). If no one feels like teaching me, can i request one?
aslate

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« Reply #214 on: 08-22-2003 17:24 »

There, but it's a bit old
LaVaLaDy

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« Reply #215 on: 08-22-2003 18:17 »
« Last Edit on: 08-22-2003 18:17 »



i hope this works
aslate

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« Reply #216 on: 08-22-2003 18:18 »
« Last Edit on: 08-22-2003 18:18 »

The PEELers' FAQ: UBB
LaVaLaDy

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« Reply #217 on: 08-22-2003 18:20 »
« Last Edit on: 08-22-2003 18:20 »

I DID IT! IM A TOTAL IDIOT!!!!!!!!! can someone make me an avatar of that LaBarbera?(the one in the last post I made)I would really really like it!
Pitt Clemens

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« Reply #218 on: 08-22-2003 19:50 »
« Last Edit on: 08-22-2003 19:50 »

Can I get an avatar of the cartridge robot's cartridge that says "State the obvious?"  I think that would suit me best.
aslate

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« Reply #219 on: 08-22-2003 19:52 »

Requests go in the Off-Topic avatar thread.
 http://www.peelified.com/cgi-bin/Futurama/12-000878-18/
Pitt Clemens

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« Reply #220 on: 08-22-2003 19:58 »

Yaaaarg
sheep555

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« Reply #221 on: 08-23-2003 07:01 »

 
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Originally posted by LaVaLaDy:
I dont know how. Im really stumped on how to post an image from my computer(its an imac). If no one feels like teaching me, can i request one?

If you're using the Paint function of Apple Works, you can't resize images. You have to draw your avatar on a 64x64 canvas. To do this, click on the Document Properties, and select pixel size. Change both to 64.

Also, you can't save as a GIF file in AppleWorks. Avatars have to be in a gif format, so I'd advise looking into a freeware paint programme such as The GIMP (if you're running OS X, it should work using the X11 windowing system).
Futurama_Hil

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« Reply #222 on: 08-26-2003 10:15 »

I decieded to give it a go, and looked at The Fry Hole's turtorial. I was doing good until it said, "hide the bottom layer'. now, i'm using photoshop 7, and I don't see it thee. Then there's "filter tool". photoshop doesn't seem to have that tool either. please help.
alexvilagosh

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« Reply #223 on: 08-26-2003 10:40 »

I cant find the fecking biezer tool or whatever either on Photoshop 7. Help us!
Mercapto

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« Reply #224 on: 08-26-2003 11:20 »
« Last Edit on: 08-26-2003 11:20 »

It's the "Pen" tool.

@Hil:
In the bottom corner of your screen, there's a list of your layers. You hide them by clicking on the eye icon next to the layer. In Photoshop the "Filler" tool is called the "Paint Bucket Tool".

A visual aid
aslate

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« Reply #225 on: 08-26-2003 11:49 »

 
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Originally posted by Futurama_Hil:
I decieded to give it a go, and looked at The Fry Hole's turtorial. I was doing good until it said, "hide the bottom layer'. now, i'm using photoshop 7, and I don't see it thee. Then there's "filter tool". photoshop doesn't seem to have that tool either. please help.

For PSP (As it is a PSP tutorial), do the following:
Have the "Layer" toolbar open (In PSP7 it is on the top right of the toolbar, looks like two squares over each other).
Select the background layer, right-click and you should be able to turn it off. I can't help loads, i've got PSP8 installed, and it's different.

Futurama_Hil

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« Reply #226 on: 08-26-2003 12:50 »
« Last Edit on: 08-26-2003 12:50 »

ok, I'll try. thanks for the help mercapto and aslate   smile.

Ok, I did a little different than the way said, but I think it's good enough for a first:
alexvilagosh

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« Reply #227 on: 08-26-2003 20:58 »

I still can't find the right pen tool in Photoshop!
sheep555

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« Reply #228 on: 08-27-2003 03:57 »

I believe (although I'm not sure, it's been a long time since I used PhotoShop), that bezier curves aren't actually a "pen" in PhotoShop, but vectors. I'm guessing you actually have to create the scan as a vector graphic, and then convert it into a raster format, whereupon you can colour it in.
alexvilagosh

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« Reply #229 on: 08-27-2003 05:01 »

I have no idea what any of that means.
sheep555

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« Reply #230 on: 08-27-2003 05:48 »

OK then...there are two types of graphics - Raster (or bitmap) and Vector.

Raster graphics are images in which each pixel is assigned a colour value.

In Vector graphics, each line is assigned a mathmatical formulae. This means that vector graphics can be zoomed in an unlimited amount of times without the image degrading, and the file sizes are very small. Flash uses vector graphics to keep animations quick to load.

Bezier curves are curves defined by mathmatical formulae, and so are vector graphics. But Paint Shop Pro offers you the option of automatically converting bezier curves into a bitmap. Obviously most people do this, because you can't apply image filters to vector graphics (in PSP).

Did that help?  smile
Mercapto

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« Reply #231 on: 08-27-2003 09:40 »

 
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Originally posted by sheep555:
I believe (although I'm not sure, it's been a long time since I used PhotoShop), that bezier curves aren't actually a "pen" in PhotoShop, but vectors. I'm guessing you actually have to create the scan as a vector graphic, and then convert it into a raster format, whereupon you can colour it in.

That's correct, you use the pen tool to draw a "path" which you can have any drawing tool follow. I do my scans by drawing a path on top of the framegrab and then applying the pencil tool to the path.
Rage Dump

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« Reply #232 on: 08-27-2003 09:43 »
« Last Edit on: 08-28-2003 00:00 »

I just had my first go at avy creation... and i dont think i did anything right.

*Image removed due to crappy webspace*
This is what i tried to make it out of. I made the avys in Paint Shop Pro 8.

In short i...
1) Got the framegrab in PSP8
2) Created a new layer
3) Use a size 1 brush to go over the outline of the original and put the outline in the new layer
4) Used the colour grabber thing with the original to colour the new layer
5) Resized it to 64x64
6) Changed to gif
7) Threw computer on ground as i saw the final product

Basically it was fine until i had to convert to gif, that made all of my attempts to make the outlines stand out fail...
anyway here's where i gave up

*Images removed due to crappy webspace*

So basically, the outlining is really blurred which screwed up the writing, the first pic is after changing it to gif and the second is after outlining it again as you can see they both turned out really bad...

So does anyone know what i did wrong?
Thanks a bundle

EDIT : Also, why did it lose the transparent background after the conversion?
EDIT2 : To save confusion, the top (Large) pic never had transparency, just in case that becomes relevant...
EDIT3 : This might've been my 300th post! (Not 100% sure though)
aslate

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« Reply #233 on: 08-27-2003 10:43 »

Ok:
  • Blow up the picture before you scan it, this makes it easier to trace the lines and gives a better finish when shrunk back down
  • Make sure it's full-colour before shrinking. It's Shift+Ctrl+0 in PSP
  • To set transparency, right-click on the background with the dropper tool, Shift+Ctrl+V, select the background colour to be transparent.
Futurama_Hil

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« Reply #234 on: 08-27-2003 11:29 »
« Last Edit on: 08-27-2003 11:29 »

I'd like to make this transparet, but since my mouse is a Mac mouse, it can't right click:


Also, I'm not sure if it's good (size, color, etc.)
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I don't have a signiture cause I know you wouldn't read it. Oh, wait...damn.
Mercapto

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« Reply #235 on: 08-27-2003 11:44 »

The filesize and dimensions are okay. As for transparency, here you go:

Futurama_Hil

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« Reply #236 on: 08-27-2003 11:59 »

Yay! thanks very much! I'll go put in the avy thread.
SamuelXDiamond

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« Reply #237 on: 08-27-2003 16:22 »

Alex: Here's an image I made to guide Marg through the scan-making process.

E-mail me if you want any more pointers.
Futurama_Hil

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« Reply #238 on: 08-27-2003 20:43 »

I made a few more avys, but I don't want to keep bugging you guys when I can't make them transparent. So, can someone care to explain? Note: I DON'T have a right click type of mouse. I cannot right click.
aslate

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« Reply #239 on: 08-27-2003 20:51 »

Long and alkward compared to right click but:
With the dropper tool, select the background using normal click.
Click on the foreground colour in the pallete on the right, bringing up the adjust colour screen
Copy the HTML code.
Go into the background colour via the pallete
Paste the HTML code.

Then go:
Shift + Ctrl + V (Add transparency)
Reduce to 256 colours (If it asks)
Set background colour as transparent
Shift + V should test if it's transparent (You'll see what i mean).

That is for PSP.
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