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Wait, Tweek is a man?!?!
Strictly speaking, no. Tweek is a genderless and ageless demon from the pit of sheol, who is referred to by male pronouns simply due to ancient convention regarding gender-neutral living entities. His breath is of finely-misted nitric acid, and his blood is boiling pitch. His heart is an irregularly-pulsing neutron star, and his skin is principally composed of the collapsed waveforms of the probabilities of humanity's deaths through the millennia. Don't upset Tweek.
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Gorky

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I saw a trailer for Brave last week when I went to see the re-release of Beauty and the Beast. Though I tend to be resistant to Pixar's supposed charms, this one looks kind of neat.
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Nasty Pasty

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Supposed charms? I'd give Pixar my first-born child if I could just hug Wall-E.
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Svip

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I am going with Gorky here. Pixar is all right. But I think anyone willing to give their first born for that should have their first (and sequential) born taking away from them.
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« Reply #9 on: 01-23-2012 18:38 »
« Last Edit on: 01-23-2012 18:43 »
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I've got a really bad feeling about 'Brave'. I used to be sold on it because it was Pixar's work, but 'Cars 2' has undone that good faith by showing me that they're now capable of producing a dud. And yeah, the trailer just doesn't look very good to me. The character designs all look incredibly bland (minus the bear), the story itself feels messy and poorly defined... the humour looks weak... I'm just not sold on the basic concept of it. I'll still happily go and watch it when it comes out but I'm not eagerly anticipating it like I once was. Pixar is much better then all the animation movie companys that are on the market at the moment.
That doesn't make them infallible and it doesn't mean that no other companies are worth looking at. Dreamworks has stepped its game up recently. 'Kung Fu Panda' was excellent, 'How to Train Your Dragon' and 'Kung Fu Panda 2' were both great and I loved 'Puss in Boots'. The later two films are easily better films than Pixar's offering for that year. Disney's non-Pixar wing are also proving themselves to be worth paying attention to. Both 'The Princess and the Frog' and 'Tangled' were good and 'Wreck-It Ralph' stands to be incredible. And Paramount made a very impressive debut with 'Rango' this year, although who knows if they'll be able to follow up with success. But yes, Pixar is great.
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Pixar is much better then all the animation movie companys that are on the market at the moment.

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Xanfor

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I hate those gifs.  I used to be sold on it because it was Pixar's work, but 'Cars 2' has undone that good faith by showing me that they're now capable of producing a dud. Not for me. Cars 2 was brilliant, and even improved my opinion of the original.
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Best animation Studio? Well definitely Studio Ghibli, it's the studio that the Pixar guys are looking up to and admire.
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I hate Studio Ghibli's films for the most part, but I also seem to be completely alone in that. That's probably a big part of what fuels my hatred, thinking about it. I love 'Grave of the Fireflies' to pieces but every other offering from them that I've bothered with ('Spirited Away', 'My Neighbour Totoro', 'Howl's Moving Castle' and 'Princess Monononononononoke'), has actually angered me to sit through. Not as much as 'Akira' though. I fucking loathe 'Akira'. I genuinely consider it to be the 27th worst film I've ever seen. So maybe I just hate anime in general. But then, I did love 'Grave of the Fireflies' and I also loved 'Barefoot Gen'. And 'Summer Wars' wasn't half bad, either. I think I just hate bloated, high-fantasy nonsense. I was never a big fan of 'Lord of the Rings', either. Not for me. Cars 2 was brilliant, and even improved my opinion of the original.
'Cars 2' is a gigantic mess of a film. The spy stuff is all utterly wonderful - I loved all of those sequences and Finn MacMissile is up there with my favourite Pixar characters of all time. The problem is that that's only half of the movie. The other half deals with Lightning McQueen going on a round-the-world race and every time a race or Lightning McQueen or radiator springs show up, the film stops dead. It's not interesting and all of the gags that come in these sections are tired and unfunny. Essentially, the film is left feeling like 2 different films badly smushed together. It's incoherent and as I said, it's messy. It's a shame because there's an awful lot of brilliant stuff in there, but there's also an awful lot of stuff that's genuinely bad. And I should emphasise that this all comes from someone who liked the first 'Cars'. I think that 'Cars 2' would have been much better off if they dropped all ties to the first film and just created a spy story with new characters set in the 'Cars' universe. They could have given Lightning and Mater a cameo somewhere if they had to.
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coldangel

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Cars aren't actually sentient. They're inanimate mechanisms. So the whole concept is flawed.
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Xanfor

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I disagree with the mentioned sentiments of everyone here regarding Cars 2, although I do understand where your disgruntlement lies.
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« Reply #19 on: 01-24-2012 02:42 »
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I fucking loathe 'Akira'. I genuinely consider it to be the 27th worst film I've ever seen.
Had to go look, noticed 26 is Funny Games. I watched the original Austrian film for the first time a few months ago, and adored it. In fact, it's become one of my favorite horror films of all time. It's decently scary and suspenseful at parts, hilariously macabre at other parts, and one part in particular is genuinely heartwrenching. I love the way it messes with your head and your expectations of what would happen in this sort of film. It's also shot incredibly well, the use of dead space and silence at certain parts is brilliant. Sure, its message is kind of pretentious, but I don't feel it needs to be taken that seriously. To me the "message" is more of just a silly inside joke, and I appreciate it as such. I haven't actually watched the remake that's on your list, but I know it's shot for shot and line for line the exact same, just with American actors. Did you just hate the acting in the remake compared to the original, have you never seen the original, or have you seen both and just hate the film completely?
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I'm not a fan of Michael Haneke because I feel that his films, whilst very well crafted, are are an intentional middle finger to his audience and I don't like being talked down to. The entire film is constantly saying "Shame on you for enjoying this" whilst making huge, sweeping generalisations about the nature between fiction and an audience that I don't really agree with
The remake of 'Funny Games' is pretty much the epitome of why I don't like him. Not only is it a shot-for-shot remake of a film I wasn't a huge fan of to begin with, but it comes with the arrogance that he, himself, remade his own film in a shot-for-shot fashion, as if he felt there was absolutely no way in which he could improve upon it - essentially as if he'd made a perfect film. Also, I dislike unwarranted English-language remakes.
So yes, that particular film is on the list mostly because it's a remake and such, but I don't like either version and I hate 'Hidden' with a real passion.
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Frankly, I think that the animation is disgusting. I'm talking about the animation here as opposed to the art-work. As in, how it moves and flows. The frame rate is practically non-existant. I know that the film was made on a budget, but I don't care. You can literally see each frame before your eyes as opposed to it creating a fluid movement. And the budget argument isn't really valid when you look at other films made on similar budgets. 'The Illusionist' cost roughly $3,000,000 less than 'Akira' and it's one of the most beautifully animated films I've ever seen.
This is admittedly an issue I have with anime in general but 'Akira' is one of the worst offenders that I've seen and unlike films such as 'Grave of the Fireflies' that also have horrible animation, the film's story doesn't even begin to make up for it.
And being a good depiction of a tone, mood or even an era doesn't make something good. It might be a good aspect of something, but it's not enough on its own. Countless Italian horror films from the '70s (such as the work of Lucio Fulci) capture an incredible dream-like feeling of dread - but they're still awful films. One could argue that something like 'Resident Evil' or 'Sucker Punch' serves as a summation of the cultures in which they were made but again, that doesn't make them good.
I agree with your first few points though.
Also, it's far too long for its own good and is incredibly dull.
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Best animation Studio? Well definitely Studio Ghibli, it's the studio that the Pixar guys are looking up to and admire.
Studio Ghibli is releasing "The Secret World of Arrietty" in the United States next month, which is their version of "The Borrowers". However, the film was already released last year in both Japan and the United Kingdom, with the latter dubbed to English. So, now we have the same movie being dubbed in the same language twice. If any of you bronies out there follow Lauren Faust's deviantArt page, she did comment a few months ago on how Pixar actually fired their original director, Brenda Chapman, due to creative conflicts. She was the one with the original vision for the film. She's still employed to Pixar, but who knows how involved she still is with the film. She could still be actively overseeing production, but I fear that her role may have been demoted to a level where she just pops into work and basically keeps her mouth shut, which is similar to Lauren Faust herself when it came to the production of the second season of "My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic". I'm really looking forward to both "Brave" as well as the "American" dub of "The Secret World of Arrietty". "Brave" is entirely new territory for Pixar, being set in the Dark/Middle ages and featuring a female protagonist for the first time. I really didn't have any particular interest in "Arrietty" until I saw the trailer. The voice acting (yeah, for an "American" dub featuring a Disney Channel star as the voice of Arrietty) and the human movements in the animation really got me.
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I haven't anticipated it as much as him^, but still pretty stoked they're finally doing it.
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