|
Svip
Administrator
DOOP Secretary
|
|
Your list merely contains bad films. I don't care about bad films. So it's bad, whatever. I probably did not think of it the next day. But those five films are on a whole different level of badness. They are suprabad. A much worse kind. Because their badness sticks with you. And whenever you watch the other films in the series, you feel cheated. You feel the whole thing is ruined now.
And only after years of therapy can you move on. And watch those original films again without fail. Unless, of course, Transformer: The Movie kept you up at night (and not for the good reasons).
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Frisco17
DOOP Secretary
|
|
That's exactly why.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Xanfor
Moderator
DOOP Secretary
|
|
Those scenes are from multiple movies. Some of them by Mel Brooks, who is hilarious.
|
|
|
|
|
Nixorbo
UberMod
DOOP Secretary
|
|
And Jewish. I'm assuming one is Springtime for Hitler?
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
DannyJC13
DOOP Secretary
|
|
Why's everyone going on about Honda in the comments?
|
|
|
|
|
i_c_weiner
DOOP Secretary
|
|
Because, according to this, "unnamed sources" have told this blog that I've never heard of that it's going to be a Super Bowl ad for Honda. Please note that it's "unnamed sources" saying this. And that they "hear" that there'll be CR-Vs. And that the source "hinted" at it. To say the least, I'm suspicious of this report.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
TheMadCapper
Fluffy
UberMod
DOOP Secretary
|
|
The Lord of the Rings books are a massively influential series, still defining what we know as the fantasy genre now, 60 years after their release. I think Peter Jackson's treatment of them was entirely suitable, not "overblown". What does "overblown" even mean here? That it was too high budget? That it takes itself too seriously? That the movies were too long? We're not talking about A fantasy. We're talking about THE fantasy, something that has spanned generations and fascinated millions.
|
|
|
|
|
|
cyber_turnip
Urban Legend
|
|
|
« Reply #74 on: 02-05-2012 00:26 »
« Last Edit on: 02-05-2012 00:30 »
|
|
I'd say the books are overblown, too - not just the films. The films do an excellent job of adapting them as far as I can tell, but the story is just such bloated drivel. At the risk of offending people who'll take this personally for some reason, it's the most ridiculous, overly elaborate and complex set-up for endless sequences of people walking I could possibly think of. You could make the entire trilogy into one, nicely condensed 1 1/2 hour movie if you cut out all of the pointless episodic encounters with bad guys. Have the exposition-heavy intro, have them leave on their quest, they get chased and fight things for 40 minutes instead of 8 hours and then they throw the ring in the fire, end of film. And two of the films don't have anything resembling an ending. A story without an ending is not a story, it's a waste of time. I don't care if they intended to make sequels, films should stand alone. And even in spite of that, they're bad film because the overall plot is such a boring concept. Why can these rings rule the entire fucking world? If Sauron made the ring in the first place, my guess is that he used his own magical energy to forge it. Why put your own lifeblood into a ring when it flows through you? Why not just take over the world with your own magical abilities? Dickhead. Oh, wait no, he made the ring to control all those good rings that were floating about. Where the fuck did those come from? Who made those? Why did they put their good magic into a fucking ring? Remember in the book of The Hobbit when the ring was just a nice plot device that turned Bilbo invisible instead of being all this fucking bollocks about consuming his soul? I doubt it's going to be that easy in the new film, though. I'm sure there are answers to all of my questions, but if anything, that proves my point. Those answers will be even more ridiculously convoluted. And I don't care if it's influential. Star Wars is probably the most influential sci-fi series out there. Does that make it the best bit of sci-fi ever? Fuck no. Hitler was influential. Justin Bieber is influential. And excluding parodies such as Bender's Game, I can't think of anything I like off the top of my head that has taken a great deal of influence from The Lord of the Rings. Perhaps The Legend of Zelda games to a degree... Still, fuck Lord of the Rings. Simple as that. I hate it.
Nothing personal against fans of the franchise. I just hate it. If it makes you feel any better, I don't think I like any high-fantasy films unless you'd consider Pan's Labyrinth to be high-fantasy.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
TheMadCapper
Fluffy
UberMod
DOOP Secretary
|
|
|
« Reply #79 on: 02-05-2012 09:24 »
« Last Edit on: 02-05-2012 10:08 »
|
|
I'd say the books are overblown, too - not just the films. The films do an excellent job of adapting them as far as I can tell, but the story is just such bloated drivel. At the risk of offending people who'll take this personally for some reason, it's the most ridiculous, overly elaborate and complex set-up for endless sequences of people walking I could possibly think of. You could make the entire trilogy into one, nicely condensed 1 1/2 hour movie if you cut out all of the pointless episodic encounters with bad guys. Have the exposition-heavy intro, have them leave on their quest, they get chased and fight things for 40 minutes instead of 8 hours and then they throw the ring in the fire, end of film. And two of the films don't have anything resembling an ending. A story without an ending is not a story, it's a waste of time. I don't care if they intended to make sequels, films should stand alone. And even in spite of that, they're bad film because the overall plot is such a boring concept. Why can these rings rule the entire fucking world? If Sauron made the ring in the first place, my guess is that he used his own magical energy to forge it. Why put your own lifeblood into a ring when it flows through you? Why not just take over the world with your own magical abilities? Dickhead. Oh, wait no, he made the ring to control all those good rings that were floating about. Where the fuck did those come from? Who made those? Why did they put their good magic into a fucking ring? Remember in the book of The Hobbit when the ring was just a nice plot device that turned Bilbo invisible instead of being all this fucking bollocks about consuming his soul? I doubt it's going to be that easy in the new film, though. I'm sure there are answers to all of my questions, but if anything, that proves my point. Those answers will be even more ridiculously convoluted. And I don't care if it's influential. Star Wars is probably the most influential sci-fi series out there. Does that make it the best bit of sci-fi ever? Fuck no. Hitler was influential. Justin Bieber is influential. And excluding parodies such as Bender's Game, I can't think of anything I like off the top of my head that has taken a great deal of influence from The Lord of the Rings. Perhaps The Legend of Zelda games to a degree... Still, fuck Lord of the Rings. Simple as that. I hate it. 1 - Why do people keep using the word "overblown" without defining what they mean by it? Thefreedictionary.com says it means: a. Done to excess; overdone: overblown decorations. b. Full of empty or pretentious language; bombastic: overblown oratory. 2. Past the stage of full bloom: overblown roses. 3. Very fat; obese. 4. Having been blown down or over: a pile of overblown saplings. Done to excess? Pretentious? A flower past its prime? Fat? Blown over by strong wind? Tell us what you mean. 2 - To cut it down to 40 minutes of travel and adventure does a massive disservice to the epic quality of the story. It's a story about a world-spanning adventure through fantastical settings, not a quick jaunt. And the millions of fans (basically the core audience the movie makers needed to attract) who know the books would have hated the shit out of it if it was butchered like you suggest. 3 - The films don't all have endings? So what? It's one massive tale, not three unrelated episodes. The books tell one huge story, and the movies do too. And films "should stand alone"? I think that's bullplop. You don't read one book of a trilogy and criticize it because it is intrinsically tied in to the other books, unless you are a stupid person. And the movies are carefully made to mirror the books, so complaining that they are like the books is... not sensible. 4 - Why are the rings important? Because they are tools. If I spend a few hours crafting a screwdriver, it will become a useful tool that is better at driving screws than I am with nothing but my body, and will effectively execute the work for which it is designed. If I spend time and money to create a bicycle, I intend that it will enable me to move around more efficiently than I could on my own. If I create a magic ring, it is because I think the energy I invest will be outweighed by the benefits. If I invest my time and money in a business, it is because I anticipate the business will succeed and my investment will accomplish my goals. Your argument is fail. 5 - Star Wars is probably the most influential sci-fi series out there. Does that make it the best bit of sci-fi ever? Fuck no. Hitler was influential. Justin Bieber is influential. And excluding parodies such as Bender's Game, I can't think of anything I like off the top of my head that has taken a great deal of influence from The Lord of the Rings. Perhaps The Legend of Zelda games to a degree... Still, fuck Lord of the Rings. Simple as that. I hate it. Star wars is extremely popular. This is not the same as influential. Tolkein literally shaped the entire world of fantasy. Star Wars is not even close to that level of influence, though it has gained great fame. Hitler was a person who killed millions of innocents and made a bid to take over much of the world. Tolkein wrote a few books, which have inspired and entertained millions of readers. Congratulations on proving Godwin's Law correct while being wrong. Justin Beiber? Nobody will give an at's rass about him in 60 years. Your comparison of him to Tolkein illustrates how little you know what you're talking about. Even if Beiber maintains stardom his whole life, he's not done anything like LoTR in terms of shaping an entire literary genre. He's a pop star. Nothing personal against fans of the franchise. I just hate it. If it makes you feel any better, I don't think I like any high-fantasy films unless you'd consider Pan's Labyrinth to be high-fantasy.
And that's what all of this boils down to: you don't like it. So what? Lots of people do like it. Accept that it's not your cup of tea and quit acting like your personal gut-level dislike means it's bad.
|
|
|
|
|