Losht

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Nah, the nose is different.

Also, that would be so lame.

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So what are our perceptions of Jacob. Is it a (semi)Physical person, or is it a different illusion/Hullucination to each person? Why does he want help?

Heh, best episode synopsis from Uncyclopedia:

Locke meets back up with the others, and after senselessy beating up the russian guy, who is senselessly still alive, he forces Ben to take him to meet Jacob, whoever the hell that is. Back at the beach, more time is wasted before the action goes back to locke. Ben and Locke arrive at the cabin. Inside, Ben starts talking to an empty chair. Locke starts getting pissed. Then Ben says "haha, just playing with ya man, there is no jacob, lets go back to the camp". as Locke is about to leave he hears a voice ask for help. He turns on his light saber at which point mad shit starts flying around the room and Ben starts talking to the chair again. In the chaos there is briefly seen an outline of a man, played by kris kristofferson (much resembling his character "Whistler" from Blade), suddenly in the chair. Locke and Ben leave. Some stuff happens, Ben shoots Locke, simultaneously half the viewing audience changes the channel, the other half swearing if Locke dies they will burn Lost to the ground. cliffhanger...

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Haha,

"Are you having a laugh?"

anyone else thinking "Is e havin' a laugh, are you havin a laugh?"

Fuck, i was getting seriously choked up towards the end. But shit, what an ending!

Is anyone else feeling a bit of "Who is eric cartmans father" syndrome in terms of locke? WHERE THE HELL IS HE!

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Originally posted by chay's head:

Is anyone else feeling a bit of "Who is eric cartmans father" syndrome in terms of locke? WHERE THE HELL IS HE!

Uhm,

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he's still visiting the dead Dharma people convention?

Anyway:

NOOOOOOOOOOO! Poor Hurley. He's doomed.

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Evil Vincent has him in his grasp.   

Also, congrats Lost writers for being really creative.

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Last time (the 2nd season finale) the Tailies made a "great" plan to visit the Others.
And we all know how this played out.

This time they made a "great" plan to prepare for a visit by the Others. Why do I think that things won't go as planned, eh?

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You didn't fool me Lost writers, saw that ending coming. The build up was a dead give-away.

Lol at Jacks line at the start, "Yippee kai-yay mutherfuckers!" 

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yea it was you can see these cliffhangers comming a mile away you kno like they just cant let things just happen, you kno what would be a real cliffhanger if they just end the season with like a simple ending

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I think I spotted two errors: 

1) Saeed (sp?) is explaining his plan..  there are two sentences where it sounds as if a part of his speech is added post-filming. Around minute 14 somewhere.

2) Desmond and Charlie are with the boat on the beach. Hurley goes away again and Charlie follows him. [image turns] and we see a cameraman's legs in the sand, he's sitting next to the boat.

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^ Heh, i'll have to watch it again.

Also, Frobot, i don't think you quite get the point of a cliffhanger...

So next week is the two hour finale?

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Quick-eyed Belgian! 

Ya next week, the shit will hit the fan:
-Will Charlie die this time around?
-Will Desmond ever wake up from his oar-induced coma?
-Will Jack come back from the tower in his Millenium falcon and hit Bens Advanced Tie fighter just in time so that... ummm... someone can blow up the... aw crap I didn't think this analogy through very well!
-Will Sawyer get his giggity giggity on with Kate before the season is out?
Tune in next week! z0mg!!11eleventyone 

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Originally posted by Gocad:
  Uhm,

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he's still visiting the dead Dharma people convention?

I meant when on South Park they were going to play the episode where you finally found out who cartmans father was, after a something like 10 week hiatus/break, and instead they showed that T&P episode.

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Oh, I wanted to mention something.  Remember when Naomi was speaking in..what Italian?  She didnt say "thank you"  She said

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I am not alone

Edit: Frobot, could you please use a period once in awhile?  Im having trouble reading your posts.  Thanks

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Originally posted by chay's head:
^ Heh, i'll have to watch it again.

Also, Frobot, i don't think you quite get the point of a cliffhanger...

So next week is the two hour finale?

i get the point of a cliffhanger and its to leave you shocked and wanting more and seeing that the moments that are suppose to shock us lately have been projected way before they happen it would shock everyone if they didnt do what we think they are going to

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Kip sent this to me.  Its from another website.  Very detailed theory about whats going on.

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Read it somewhere... BEST THEORY EVER!

WARNING FOR SPOILING!!!

BIG spoiler alert, another theory and read it at your own risk:


The island is largely black rock - a naturally occurring magnetic mineral. It has the uncanny property of storing electromagnetic currents - like a big magnetic tape.

Magnus Hanso - grandfather of Alvar Hanso and venture capitalist - captained his ship The Black Rock to the island in the nineteenth century. He intended to use slaves and dynamite to mine the fabled black rock and sell it. However, he was caught in a storm - as many have been near the island - and was shipwrecked.

He survived, but the slaves were lost. Whilst making a boat to leave the island, Magnus thought he could hear the screams of his cargo as the ship sank. He thought the melancholy would pass, but it did not; in fact, it was as though he could literally hear their thoughts in the last moments of their lives - even in their foreign tongue.

The whispers, the voices, the memories were stronger in those areas that were predominantly black rock. They were coming from the black rock itself. As lava cools it records the earth's pattern of magnetic currents at the time; in a similar way, the black rock was storing all electromagnetic activity - light, sound, thought, memory.

Of greater significance to Magnus was that the black rock also held the pattern of the future. Magnus was able to faintly sense how things would be.

Magnus made a boat, returned home, kept his mouth shut about what he'd discovered, and bought the island. He came back many times and was able to navigate the safest approach. On the island, he would meditate on what the future held - what the rock was telling him - and then commit this to paper. He would then return to centres of commerce and use these predictions to speculate and invest in forthcoming wars, selling munitions. He amassed a great fortune. The secret of the island and the wealth was passed down through the Hanso family to Alvar Hanso in the 20th century.

. . .

A mathematician named Valenzetti calculated a mathematical formula for the end of the world, the 'core numbers' of which are 4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42. These numbers occur everywhere, he said, and predict earth's destruction. This finding was presented to the United Nations; they did not believe or care and so discarded it.

Alvar learnt of this formula and knew that it was correct as it correlated with what the island had revealed to him. He enlisted the help of Valenzetti and many others to form the DHARMA Initiative, the purpose of which was to change these numbers - and so avert the predicted destruction of earth.

DHARMA was based on the island. Although the organisation was highly secretive, Alvar felt he had to share the island for the greater good of mankind. The greatest scientists he could find were brought to the island - as were gifted children who had great mental ability bordering on psychic.

Various stations were set up on the island to perform these experiments: the objective of which was to change Fate itself. One experiment was the Swan; initially, it was just a Skinner Box - a psychological experiment to test two subjects' willingness to repeatedly press a button because they were told it was important. The intention here was to see if their faith in their 'duty' was sufficient to budge Fate a millimetre. It didn't work.

Another station - the Pearl - was set up. This experiment was based on another pair of subjects who were told to observe the actions of the occupants of the Swan. The objective here, based on Quantum Theory, was to see if - by observation alone - the outcome of the Swan could be affected. It was not and neither was Fate.

. . .

It was decided to try and dam the flow of Destiny from the island to the outside world - to stop the current.

Jacob was selected as the most gifted child. He was able to move small objects with his mind, which is shown in the Orientation film.
It was hoped that if the rock could store human memory electromagnetically then, perhaps, the reverse could happen and a human mind could absorb this electromagnetic memory from the rock. The intention was always to change Destiny.

Jacob was placed at the epicentre of the island's power in an underground chamber. Powered up, wired up, and observed by a team of scientists including Dr Marvin Candle, Jacob attempted to absorb Destiny from the black rock. Unfortunately, he failed; there was an explosion, referred to later as the "incident".

At that moment, Jacob lost all corporeal form and was merged with the black rock itself. But he survived. His consciousness was embedded in broken fragments of the rock. His consciousness was able to move objects - as he had in human form... but now it meant he could lift himself - in the form of rock fragments and move freely. The naturally-ocurring electromagnetic field around the area of the Swan assisted in his mobility and sustained his life.

Jacob was able to move as a black cloud of dust and re-form himself into different shapes. He soon learnt that he could also use electromagnetism to conjure up images and sound. And later still, that he could 'read minds' as we saw he did with Eko.

DHARMA had failed in changing Destiny for the better and had actually made things worse by creating a massive anomaly. Alvar was despondent. He and his wife returned to the island to die. They laid themselves down in two alcoves and allowed Jacob to peacefully end them. In Alvar's pocket was a pouch containing two stones - one black and one white - one for him and one for his wife. They thought that if they could, after death, find these two stones and reside in them as separate consciousnesses then they would allow Jacob to absorb them into his form. As long as the black rock existed, they would be immortal. It worked; and Jacob became a 'three-headed' entity, referred to as 'Cerberus' on the blast door map created by Radzinsky. (Cerberus was the three-headed guard dog of Greek mythology).

. . .

The 'incident' (as described by Dr Marvin Candle - who lost an arm - in the Orientation film) now necessitated the periodic release of the electromagnetism. The periodic build-up of power sustained Jacob/Cerberus and allowed for continued analysis of Destiny by the remaining scientists; the periodic release prevented another disaster. The whole area of the 'incident' was concreted. And now the Swan had a genuine use: to release electromagnetism every 108 minutes to an orbiting satellite with a 5 minute pass-over. For this task they conscripted the help of two people they knew to be spies: Radzinsky and Inman for USSR and USA respectively.

They realised they could not - or should not - try to change Destiny. However, the long-term effect of the incident was to create an anomaly in Destiny that might itself be the cause of the predicted cataclysm on earth. This needed to be corrected now. The anomaly had pulled in a ship of scientists - including a pregnant Rousseau - and shipwrecked it. [What was left of] DHARMA realised that this ship was never 'meant' to be shipwrecked on the island and that their meddling with Destiny would create anomalies of wider and potentially more dangerous significance.

The scientists sought to correct their mistake before it snowballed. It was a difficult task to perform without screwing up Destiny further but they had the resources.

. . .

Bea Kulgh, a DHARMA initiate, sensed a shift from an idealistic community in 'Otherville' towards a totalitarian cult headed by a powerful triumvirate leader. She reached out for others who felt the same, but it was impossible - any disobedience meant being brainwashed in the re-programming room (where we saw Carl). During her tour of duty in the Pearl, which was still active at the time, she was able to secretly communicate with Radzinsky and Inman via the computer. She fed them information from which - with their own reconnaissance - they were able to produce a map of the island and the hatches, which John Locke saw on the blast door in Lockdown. They removed part of the Orientation film that forbade communication via the computer so that, if they were found out and replaced, their replacements would not be hindered by that rule. And they formulated a plan to escape.

Radzinsky had been seeing images of his past - as all of the Losties have. He saw people he had tortured whilst working for the KGB. These visions were actually produced by Jacob/Cerberus. The point of the visions was as intense, life-changing therapy. It is believed that a person can overcome their own past, nature and fears to transcend into something pure and fit for DHARMA. Radzinsky had been seeing visions of a person he had tortured; he had cut out the prisoner's eye.

The culmination of the 'therapy' is a Test. We saw Eko fail his Test by refusing to repent for his past - this ended badly for him when he chased after Jacob/Cerberus. We also saw Hurley fail his test when he refused to take a leap of faith off a cliff - as urged by his imaginary-turned-real friend Dave.

Radzinsky's Test was to cut out his own eye - "an eye for an eye". He knew none of this was real, but they had a plan to escape for which he would do anything. Kneeling before his victim, as Eko would do, Radzinsky used Inman's US Army knife to cut out his own eye, thereby passing the Test.

. . .

When Radzinsky awoke, he was greeted by Benjamin Linus and the other Others. He was given a tour of 'Otherville', told the rough outline of DHARMA and what it meant. He was given a glass eye and was put to work. He appeared to be receptive to DHARMA's aims but, in reality, all he wanted was to escape. He proceeded with the plan.

At the right time, he blew up the Arrow hatch, killing several people. He radioed Inman, in the Swan, immediately and ran across the island towards him. It did not take long before Jacob/Cerberus tracked him down, but he timed it right so that his dash would coincide with the rain showers to give him the biggest headstart possible.

Radzinsky made it to the Swan where Inman had prepared the trap. It was dark by now, and a bright light shone from the hatch; Jacob/Cerberus followed it down. Inman could see Jacob/Cerberus through his array of mirrors from the safe vantage point of the Swan lounge area. He saw Jacob/Cerberus approach; Jacob/Cerberus moved toward the open door. Radzinsky fused the lockdown door bringing it crashing down and turned the water on. The area outside the door - where Jacob/Cerberus was - filled with water. An exposed fusebox near the ladder caused a massive electrical current to pass through Jacob/Cerberus. Unfortunately, a small part of Jacob/Cerberus got under the door before being completely disabled. This part reformed as someone from Inman's past - a daughter perhaps, or a fallen comrade - whoever it was, Inman had not yet had the visions and was frozen with emotion. He could not act to destroy this loved one in front of him and would not heed Radzinksy's frantic pleading that it was not real and that they needed to escape now while they could. Radzinsky left him behind.

(The fusebox and water pipe are seen by Jack the very first time he goes down the hatch ladder - season 2, episode 1.)

Radzinsky continued with the plan and left the Swan with the film cutting. He made his way to the Flame where he knew he would be able to communicate with the outside world and be rescued. When he got there, he was surprised to find it deserted and, what was more bizarre, prepared for him: there was a plentiful supply of Vodka, there was a computer that played chess, there was a cat, there was even a picture of Nadia Comaneci on the wall - the Olympic gymnast who shared his birthday. He sat in front of a bank of monitors and began trying to reach the outside world - it had been such a long time. Flicking through the channels, it became apparent that the Berlin Wall had fallen and so had the Soviet Union with it. Communication was pointless. He spent the next few days in a drunken stupor. At last, Benjamin and the Others came to him.

They agreed on a truce; he had killed some of them but he could not be held completely responsible as he had not passed the Test in truth and had not been truly ready to join DHARMA. They allowed him to live so long as he never came to their camp, never fraternised with any of them, and worked at the Flame as their communications man. He would be completely autonomous, with his own livestock. He asked about Inman; they told him that Inman had been 'persuaded' that Radzinsky had killed himself - they had placed a faceless corpse in the Swan for him to discover when he woke up, which he would assume to be Radzinsky's and so bury him without questioning.

At this point, the cat changed shape becoming a swirling mass of black dust - it was Jacob/Cerberus albeit temporarily smaller. Jacob/Cerberus renamed Radzinsky as Bakunin - after the famous Russian anarchist - as he had rejected his leadership. He told him that his trap in the Swan had interfered with the release of electromagnetism and had created another anomaly: a light aircraft from Nigeria was brought down. The crashing of a small plane and the loss of a few lives in itself might not be such an anomaly - as Destiny can 'course-correct' to a certain extent - what was more problematic was that the plane was carrying drugs. The consequence of the plane crashing - when it had never been destined to crash - was that there would be a massive slump in supply of the drug, affecting many more lives (including Charlie's) - and the knock-on effect was incalculable.

Bakunin was tasked with tracking down the effects of the anomaly as it spread through the world and to profile each person whose life would be significantly affected by it. These people were connected one way or another to this crash or to each other and the anomaly would ripple outwards creating greater and greater waves. Bakunin tracked them down using the Flame. These people were - one way or another - put on the same plane at the same time and brought to the island so that Destiny could be corrected.... Jack, Kate, Charlie, Sawyer, Rose and the rest of Flight 815. Destiny and DHARMA were course-correcting.

. . .

Bakunin returned to the burntout Arrow station. He was remorseful. He deposited his hollowed-out Bible containing the film cutting, his glass eye which had been a gift from DHARMA, and the radio he had used to communicate with his friend Inman.

. . .

When Desmond turned the failsafe key in the Swan and caused it to implode, he was rescued by Jacob/Cerberus, but not before he had absorbed much of the Swan's power. Now, DESmond does not see the future but DEStiny - how things are planned to happen - not necessarily how they will happen.

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Ehh, it's pretty good, but i mean there are some "iffy" bits, like "Jacob/Cerberus renamed Radzinsky as Bakunin" Too convinient.

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Interesting, but it doesn't mention Locke/Mecha Island, so it is disregarded. 

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Originally posted by chay's head:
 I meant when on South Park they were going to play the episode where you finally found out who cartmans father was, after a something like 10 week hiatus/break, and instead they showed that T&P episode.

And it's the same thing with Lost. They always do not pick up the story where it ended last time, but go on elsewhere.

And because of this I knew that they wouldn't show what happened to Locke after Ben left in this episode...

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Hey Slackit, interesting theory. It could also explain why they wanted Walt, with his supernatural abilities.

I just read spoilers from tv.com [I am deliberately not linking] and the two last eps from this seasons are going to be quite a surprise. They may include
not flashbacks but
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flash-forwards

And finally, next week's episode title, Through the Looking Glass is a children's book by Lewis Carrol. wikipedia says "In it, there are many mirror themes, including opposites, time running backwards, and so on."

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And the Dharma logo for The Looking Glass station is a white rabbit.
That has Alice in Wonderland written all over it, bam.

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Charlie's late for a very important date...with DEATH! MUAHAHAHAHA! 

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LAAAAme...

had to be said.

Anyway, I don't think they're trying to tiptoe around the whole looking glass thing. CAn't wait for the finale!

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Wow.
Wow.
Wow.

I can only imagine what every other Lost fan must be going through right now like I am.

Total. Mental. Chaos.

Just wow.

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Bloody brilliant! God what a ending that completley trumped every season finale ive seen these last weeks. that was simply amazing way to go lost

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Or complete bordem.  That sucked, I wasnt captivated at all except for

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Locke lives!  Walt looks 5 years older, and anyone else notice, that in Jacks "flash forward" his dad was alive again?  Hmmm, guess the fact that Jack never saw his body DID matter

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Holy Crap that was 2 great hours of television right there.

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It was Jack in the future!
Who do you think was in the coffin? Maybe Locke or Ben?
"You bring my father down here and if I'm drunker than him you can fire me" Oh snap is Jack's dad alive?
I think the boat is Penny's Father's boat.  He hates Desmond and wants to track him down and kill him and reclaim the island.
Why Charlie Why! You could have ran out and closed the door in time.  At least he accepted his fate and got the message to Desmond and didn't go out like a bitch.
Dam you Mikilai! In the words of Austin Powers.."Why Wont You DIE!"
God Locke, we get it, you don't want to get off the island..YOU can stay but (almost) everyone else wants to go home.

Another reason why I liked the episode...Jack and I are both rocking the same badass beard.  But at least mine is real.

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JESUS. FUCK-ING. CHRIST.

That was AMAZING.

I honestly can't calm down. Phoey to you Amy. I loved this episode so much.

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At first i picked that they were flash-fowards, but the dad thing threw me off. I just thought he looked older. And i don't think his dad is alive, i think he's just gone a bit crazy. It's a bit depressing seeing what is going to happen to our hero. Lets hope something changes. I was sad to see charlie die, i was only realising in the past few episodes that he was my favorite character *Looks to charlie figurine sitting on desk*. And yes, he could have fucking made it out of that room alive. This was the biggest fucking bomb they dropped on us.

I think that at the moment, the writters are getting cocky, they know exactly what there doing now, and the flash forward was there to rub it in our faces. "Yeah, let that sink in you fuckers! Let it sink in long, say 5 months long"

I'm so giddy and excited right now, i need to run somewhere. Faze, i'm heading over, have some apple and blackcurrent juice ready!

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I miss tom 

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Haha apple & blackcurrant juice is ready baby, we can have a Lost marathon!

z0mg, Hurley is the fucking MAN!   

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Was it really Walt? Or was it FSM?
Why did Locke wuss out?
Who was in the coffin?
Is Christian still alive or is Jack just crazeh?
Some guy on another forum predicted that Penny would say "Who's Naomi?" I bet he's feeling pretty damn smug, and I guess it's the real Dharma Initiative on the boat?

Great finale.

Lost Writer videos (many lols): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCS3l8mTzok  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRp8N5jS3R4

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and anyone else notice, that in Jacks "flash forward" his dad was alive again? Hmmm, guess the fact that Jack never saw his body DID matter

Jack HAS seen his father's body...before he came to the island. In the hospital morgue, I believe is where. He uncovers the sheet to his dad's body and sees him, and starts to cry. Remember now? 
Anyway, this is part of an IM conversation a friend and I had that mostly sums up what I think on that particular thing in the episode:

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friend: the one weird thing is why did Jack ask that guy to compare him to his father?
me: ...
me: Perhaps his father isn't dead anymore
friend: yea
me: Remember, the empty coffin?
me: He saw him on the island...
me: The island's odd powers...
friend: possibly
me: although Jack might have just pretended his dad was still alive because he was really depressed and wasted on alcohol and oxycodone

Anyway, that one thing definitely threw anybody off who might've been at all close to guessing what was going on.
...and then I see Chay's Head has just said about everything I have written. Oh well. 

 

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Who do you think was in the coffin? Maybe Locke or Ben?

More of the convo:

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me: I wonder whose funeral it was...
me: Obviously one of the Losties
me: I want to guess Sawyer
friend: my brother though Sawyer
me: ya
me: Because Kate was like "Why would I go?"
me: although kate also said something like "He'll wonder where I am"
me: so hm...I wonder who "he" is, too

Then I found this freeze frame today. Of what we can see of the name, it seems to be one we're not familiar with yet.

 

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I think the boat is Penny's Father's boat. He hates Desmond and wants to track him down and kill him and reclaim the island.

Good theory.
This wasn't really a theory, but just part of the conversation where I talked about that:

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me: I don't think the boat is how they get rescued
me: I think Ben is right...this is danger
me: Seeing as it's not really Penny's boat
me: and Naomi lied
me: But the flash-forwards just showed they will EVENTUALLY get off the island
friend: u have to remember there r 3 more seasons
me: I know
me: that's why I'm pretty certain that the boat isn't how they get rescued

 

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Why Charlie Why! You could have ran out and closed the door in time.
Dam you Mikail! In the words of Austin Powers.."Why Wont You DIE!"

I was thinking those exact same things as well.

 

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I miss tom 

He actually seemed like a funny, nice guy after he took the beard off...and then in this episode he was a total jackass who wanted to kill people, heh.

 

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Was it really Walt? Or was it FSM?

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FSM. The writers explained that when Shannon was seeing him, it was Smokey, and at that time Walt was actually still on the island, so this time it was definitely Smokey as well.

Anyway, something nobody's said yet...
SCENTLESS APPRENTICE! *rocks out* 

Also, anagram fun!

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Josh, kates gonna be married to Sawyer, theres no other lostie that shes really associated with, so its not sawyer in the coffin.

And no, I dont remember Jack going to a wake for his father.  Episode name and screen shot please.

Also, about Charlie.  He was thinking for a second that maybe Desmond was wrong, that he could survive and still get rescued.  When he saw russian dude ready to kill him, I think he realized that he HAD to die, and that no one would be resuced if he just ran.  Lets say that Charlie ran out of the room, well then russian guy doesnt put the grenade there, kills Charlie and Des elsewhere and puts the scrabler back on. 

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Mikhail is like Kenny from South Park.

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Josh,

What's the anagram bit? I'm too tired and cranky to work it out.

You can get Flash Forwerd!?!

Also, Scentless Apprentice, yes? eh?

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Why would FSM take the form of an older Walt, eh? EH? Stupid aging Walt. That's why all children should be played by full-grown midgets.

 

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And no, I dont remember Jack going to a wake for his father. Episode name and screen shot please.

I didn't say wake. I said hospital morgue...
You know, when they ask you to identify the body, and you go and lift up the sheet. Jack did that, and he said something like "Ya, that's him." and breaks down.
I'm almost certain it was in White Rabbit (season 1). I will attempt to quickly find a frame grab.
HERE.
The framegrabs are kinda dark and weird, but they're good enough to see. What I'm talking about is portrayed in the first three rows of framegrabs there. 

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I'd like to grab your frame.

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Frame this

*Points to crotch*

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EDIT: Since the finale has been aired and basically everyone has commented on it already, I do assume there is no further need for spoilers...

   

Originally posted by ~FazeShift~:
Was it really Walt? Or was it FSM?
Why did Locke wuss out?

1) Good question. But remember, Walt didn't want to leave the island either and it was never really explained what was 'wrong' with him or if they really made it of the island.
Then again, Walt didn't sound like Walt at all, though.

But if the BCT would have not wanted them to make the call, why did it not see to itself?
 
2) Perhaps for the same reason he could not kill his father. And Sawyer wasn't around.

Maybe it was just bad makeup, but it seem to me that Locke's gunshot wound was gone. Strange, is it not?

   

Who was in the coffin?

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VINCENT! 

   

Is Christian still alive or is Jack just crazeh?

I think that statement was just a red herring, to make it harder to realize that this wasn't one of the regular flashbacks, but actually a flash-forward.

   

Some guy on another forum predicted that Penny would say "Who's Naomi?" I bet he's feeling pretty damn smug, and I guess it's the real Dharma Initiative on the boat?

That could be a possible answer. I always found it strange that the Dharma initative also had nerve gas canisters in their stock.
Perhaps Mikhali's tale was true after all.

   

Great finale.

Indeed.

But so many new questions...
Has everybody been picked up? Locke seemed to leave the radio tower and Desmond also knew that the people on the freighter were not who Naomi claimed to be. What happened to the remaining Others? What is the Temple? Also, where was Vincent?   

I'm curious where the next season will begin.
Shame that we have until 2008 to find out. Although the new arrangement makes sense.

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See when they were walking along the rocks, Vincent was trying to get away from the waves?
Water melts him! WE KNOW HIS WEAKNESS!!111one 
 

Originally posted by JoshTheater:
Then I found this freeze frame today. Of what we can see of the name, it seems to be one we're not familiar with yet.

"found the body of Jo", or "Ja"...
= Jacob...!? 

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That's what I thought possibly at first, but who knows...if it is Jacob's obituary, then that's a sure sign that there is a LOT more stuff that will happen on the island before they get off that would cause Jack to be sad about this.
While it's impossible to know, personally I doubt it says Jacob. But we certainly know nobody with that name yet (unless they're using a fake name). It also shows most of the last name..."antham" or something. At least it appears to be where the last name would be by looking at the length of the fold in the paper there. It doesn't look like there's enough room for another word there.
But who knows, maybe "James Ford" could fit...short name. So    at Slacky.   
Actually, as long as we're talking about character's names that start with "Jo" or "Ja" (excluding Jack, of course, heh), there's also John Locke, heh.

[Reply #237 on:]

Urgh i need to get these downloads noooowwwwwww... damnit!

[Reply #238 on:]

Perhaps that person in the coffin was somebody we have not been introduced to yet.
Who know? Also, I found that this coffin was rather short, yet I had the impression the corpse was intact, otherwise they would have not conducted a public viewing, right?

Also, I'm not sure whether Kate would really be living together with James Ford, after all he is wanted for murder in Australia. Juliet made that quite clear the police there knew that he had something to do with the death of the guy he had shot there. And I doubt that they would drop this just because he was marooned on a strange island for about three months.

Furthermore, isn't it strange that Jack does not seem to know where the island is?

[Reply #239 on:]

Well, he's not flying the plane.