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Yeah, well, they aren't dead, so why would that clash with the theory that the island is some sort purgatory?

Hm? I'm not quite sure I understand if you're actually asking that question or joking or what...please clear that up, if you don't mind? At least to help out my primitive brain.   

 

Also, I think that you misunderstood something regarding Sun. She didn't mean that she is already dead, but that she's doomed to die because she conceived her child on the island.

I didn't misunderstand...I knew she wasn't being literal, and that she menat exactly what you just explained. My point was that the statement was one of the three that I mentioned which referenced the IDEA of being already dead, and helped create a sort of theme in the episode.

 

And maybe nobody (except for the Others) knows that this Island (or rather the isles) exist...

This has definitely already been established on the show, but a lot of people forget. It's in the season 2 finale, when Ben tells Michael the only way to leave the island is by following an exact compass direction, and the once he leaves he will never be able to return. It seems to imply that the island is perhaps a supernaturally obscured location. Sorta like those Bermuda Triangle theories of ships disappearing to another realm or something (not that I believe any of that, just giving an example).

 

How should she? The 2nd season finale indicated that Penny was still searching for Desmond, who apparently vanished while sailing around the world. When the sky turned purple, the people working her (apparently) saw and the Naomi was sent there to check it out.

SEEMS simple enough, although the execs have said it's not. They said they'll be showing that scene (at the end of the season 2 finale) again in a different way. Apparently, whatever you thought was going on there the first time is only half of what's really going on, after they show a different aspect to it.
But they also said the end of this latest episode would change the entire view of the show (and I already talked about my problems with that whole thing), so they might just be full of themselves.

TOTPDesmond

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Originally posted by JoshTheater:
  Hm? I'm not quite sure I understand if you're actually asking that question or joking or what...please clear that up, if you don't mind? At least to help out my primitive brain.

Somebody stole words from sentence! Seriously.   

What I wanted to say was:
"They aren't dead, so why would that clash with the fact that they debunked the theory that the island is some sort of purgatory."

 

...and helped create a sort of theme in the episode.

except that dieing was IMHO not a theme in this episode.   

 

But they also said the end of this latest episode would change the entire view of the show

The big revelation:

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IT'S A TV SHOW!   

What? Never seen Truman show?

Also, for the record: I don't listen to the Lost podcats. Nor do I give much about the creators' annoucements about what is about to come.
All I say is: "2nd season finale is going to be the best season finale ever!" Yeah, right.

[Reply #162 on:]

 

"They aren't dead, so why would that clash with the fact that they debunked the theory that the island is some sort of purgatory."

Because I'm uneasy as to why the creators would make a big fuss about it if it's something they clearly debunked, pretending that we're supposed to be surprised. Whatever.

 

except that dieing was IMHO not a theme in this episode.

Interesting. Except for the fact that I didn't say the theme was dying. I implied that the theme seemed to be the concept of being "already dead". Much different, actually. But okay.

[Reply #163 on:]

Again, None of them are dead, all the revelation is, is that the outside world BELIEVES them to be dead. A big cover-up has taken place.

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Amen, Chay.

Josh, while I would not dispute that being dead and becoming dead is not the same thing, I do say that we still spoke about the same thing. 

Besides, nothing what the creators of any show is written in stone. I do remember that the creator of the X-Files, Chris Carter, said that Mulder & Scully would never ever start a relationship....and now look how the show ended.   

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*bump*

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Well, Sawyer finally could deliver his letter to Sawyer.

Things seem to a bit faster now.

I guess Juliet is about to face some unplesant questions...and Jack perhaps, too.

And somehow I do believe that I have see Mr. Inman(the guy who interrogated Sayid adn spent some time with Desmond in the hatch) among the Others in their temporary camp.

Oh yeah, this episode also gave plenty of fuel for the "OMG they lied to us, they are all dead!!!1!" camp.
Or not? 

[Reply #166 on:]

Gocad, Im not sure what the episode did.

I feel like, if they are putting all this "We are dead" crap into the show, because it is hell or purgatory or whatever, thats lame and boring. 

If they are putting it in because they said they arent dead, but want us to think that, so when we find out they arent dead we are surprised...well, its obvious.

Bleh

On a side note, Locke still rocks my world, and Jack is 100000000000000000% better since he dumped kate and went to Juliet

[Reply #167 on:]

Dammit Kate, I hope Sayid beats your ass for giving away the secret, and to Juliette aswell! What's the hell's wrong with you?

Bit of closure there for John and James (I assume he'll go by that name now), an Ben was a real asshole.
Although at the end of the episode I was totally expecting

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the corpse to groan and come alive again right on Lockes back, it was 50/50 there for a second in my mind... *shudders*
Maybe it will happen next episode.

I don't trust Jack now either, what the heck did "We should tell her" mean?
That didn't look like the Black Rock I remember... wasn't it blacker?

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Originally posted by Slackit02:
Gocad, Im not sure what the episode did.

If they are putting it in because they said they arent dead, but want us to think that, so when we find out they arent dead we are surprised...well, its obvious.

One, I was joking.
Two, I think they do this to point out that nobody in the outside world plans to rescue them. Keep in mind, all this talk is mostly generated by characters that were suddenly (more or less) brought to the island.

Wasn't there some talk that Lost would move away from the island perspective in this season.

[Reply #169 on:]

Spoiler gif?


I care not.

[Reply #170 on:]

that was from 2 weeks ago

[Reply #171 on:]

awesome episode!

I wreckon that juliet is actually good, her and jack are planning something good, but they've been holding out on telling everyone because juliet would get raped if they found out she was actually being deceitful. and so NOW, when james ford gets back and say "OMG Traitor!" she will get raped reguardless. and it will fuck everything up.

So in summary
Jack and Juliet = Good
Jack and Juliet =\= bad
Locke = person who has once again fucked things up.

Great episode.

[Reply #172 on:]

Chay, I agree with you about Jack and Juliet.

But Locke, COME ON.  Hes following the way of the island.  Besides, he is was more interesting than anyone on the beach, except for Desmond. 

[Reply #173 on:]

No, i think he's awesome, especially after this ep. I just mean, cause he's only heard things from ben's side (Juliet is bad) so he was just trying to help them, but alas, it's going to make things worse.

[Reply #174 on:]

Well, I think that Juliet is similar to Michael, she may not a bad person, but she's quite willing (perhaps even more than Michael) to go over bodies to get what she wants.

Since I do not think that the flashbacks give us wrong information about the character's past, it seems to me that Ben (once again) has offered her something. And that's why she is now hanging out with Jack.

[Reply #175 on:]

They've confirmed an end date for Lost - 2010. There are going to be three more seasons of 16 episodes each. This should satisfy any of the people who complain about 'filler', as the producers are now able to plan out their final story moves with a definite end game. Though it'll suck immensely having to wait until January for new Lost (and not getting a full season), if it means tighter story arcs then i'm all for it.

[Reply #176 on:]

To be honest, I had almost expected an annoucement that the next season of Lost would be the last one.

It seemed to me that the narrative speed of the series had increased in the recent episodes. This announcement makes me wonder if the series will now slow down a bit... (read: more meaningless flashback episodes)

[Reply #177 on:]

Sauce Sammers? I needs a clicky click. 

[Reply #178 on:]

Ditto!

I read somewhere a while ago it was going to be 5 seasons.

S1 - Intro to Island
S2 - The Hatch(s)
S3 - The Others
S4 - ???
S5 - Profit...i mean Closure.

But i guess 2x24 Vs 3x16 it might still be similar-ish to that still.

Not sure if i'm a fan of 16 ep seasons. Weird...

[Reply #179 on:]

 

Originally posted by ~FazeShift~:
Sauce Sammers? I needs a clicky click.   

May be too late, but here's the press release.

I'm happy with the decision really. Even though we'll get essentially the same number of episodes that we would have done if there were two more seasons (48), they'll be able to sort everything out into three smaller arcs. It'll really suck having to wait so long for them, especially without The Lost Experience, but if it means they get more time to write and produce the series (with the same budget per season as before), then we'll be in for something special.

[Reply #180 on:]

Hmm, i read something on Wikipedia about the last ep of this seaseon

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5 people are rumoured to die...

 

[Reply #181 on:]

Which 5?   

[Reply #182 on:]

All 5 of them!!! >_>
                 <_<

Hmm, IF it's true. I'm thinking, Charlie will finally kick the bucket. Sawyer cause he loves kate, or some lame shit. Ben will die, even though we love him to bits. Um Juliet, shortly after proving to everyone how good and nice she actually is. And then Jin for no reason.

[Reply #183 on:]

Five people are going to die?

Well, goodbye Rick, Mick, Dick, Sally & Susan.

What, you don't know them?   

Seriously, my money is on Charlie. Because Desmond said so.

[Reply #184 on:]

Locke will die, but his conciousness will merge with the island to become... MECHA ISLAND!!! 
Dun dun DUUNNNNNNNNNN!!

[Reply #185 on:]

Fuck you, writers! FUCK YOU!

I'm gonna go sulk in the corner. 

[Reply #186 on:]

Remember that episode of Happy Days where Fonzie ski jumped over the shark, and it was totally unbelievable?  LOST just jumped the shark

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On a side note.  Didnt the chick who helped Ben as a baby, in the first scene look like the "sheriff" lady that was on the show a few weeks back?  Also, whats up with none of these original people aging. 

And of course

HOW THE FUCK COULD THEY KILL LOCKE.  YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT SHOW, HE WAS THE ONLY FUCKING THING THAT WORKED.  I AM DONE, DONE, DONE.  NOT WORTH MY TIME ANYMORE.  I HATE YOU.

[Reply #187 on:]

Uh oh, I don't like the sounds of this... 

[Reply #188 on:]

He didn't die. 

[Reply #189 on:]

"Jumped the shark", no, it's not as bad as that, jeez. 

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They wouldn't kill him, would they? He'll super-regenerate, you'll see, YOU'LL ALL SEE!
*taps his "MECHA ISLAND!!11" post*

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Arrgh, I think I'll keep away from this thread for a few weeks now you're posting spoilers about the finale (cheers, Gocad, really appreciated that :P).

Anyway, anyone notice how

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the first thing we saw in Jacob's tent was...

... a picture of a dog 

[Reply #191 on:]

I didnt get the whole Jacob thing.  Did we see a close up of his eye at one point?

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Chay's running commentry!

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Thats totally Ben's parents...

Nope, i'm wrong, not on the island.

Nope, i'm right, Benjamin it is! He lied! He hasn't spent his life on the island!

OH EM GEE!!! Ben Flashback! Awesome!

OOooo, go locke!

"What are you mcfly ben? Chickena liar?"

Oris Gutsby, do we know that name? In show, and out of show, is he a famouts actor?

Hi, Annie, nice chocolate bar!

BAHAHA, they found Ben's dad!!! BAHAHA

Holy fucking shit, Locke went to town on Mikhail

Eeep, who is jacob? Why a gun?

Woman in the window scared me too.

Uhoh, kates about to find out she's preggers.

Egads, he talks!

haha, "Hard to celebrate on the day you killed you mum" i like this guy, he's funny.

Okay, so Bens ma-maa, Part of the renegades? Does ben join them and turn against dharma?

Told you fuckers!!! She's good! MWHAHA! CAtching up to do indeed!

Turn the fence back on idiot!

I think it's time for a smokey encounter ben...

Guess not, looks like some people don't age.

Ol' smokey up to tricks again? playing dead people ala eko'a bro?

"We're here" - quite possiblty the owrst episode to be watching late at night with no lights on. It's terrifying. The cool PEEL blue is soothing thought. Back to Terror!

The fuck...

Where's Jacob? IS been pulling a clever ruse, or is he fucking nuts?

HELP WHO? AHHH!

Dear god. None of the above, not nuts, clever...just right.

Finally coming clean about his lies! Not born on the island indeed!

Ben is totally going to kill his own father, that why he wanted locke to kill his... sorta

Knew it...

Fuck, mass grave. Nice.

Holy jesus mother shit!!! He has to be okay!!!                   

Wow, that was awesome. So in summary:

I was right about Juliet = Good and that whole thing.

Also, Zmithy, har har about the dog.

Also, as if they "Jumped the shark". the show's just starting to get really interesting. And yeah, he's not dead...yet. Remember that ep of 24 where jack died for a little bit? Totally like that.

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EDIT: We saw two shots, a quick left to right pan of Jacob sitting in the chair, then a close up of angry eye.

Gah, whats a good screen grab tool that'll let me grab in front of the overlay?

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Originally posted by chay's head:
Also, as if they "Jumped the shark". the show's just starting to get really interesting.

Indeed.
Still, I don't like when TV shows mess with my head and turn my perfect world upside down. 

 

And yeah, he's not dead...yet. Remember that ep of 24 where jack died for a little bit? Totally like that.

True, but

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somehow I doubt that Ben and Locke stuck their heads together and decided to play a prank on the audience.

Not dead yet isn't the same as not dead.
And it wouldn't be the first time they killed someone off although that character's story wasn't really told.

It would be interesting to know whether they addressed this on the epsiode's podcast.

[Reply #194 on:]

New Post!

JACOB!!!

Jacob Enjoying his chair



Jacob SEES you!


Fuck you lost. It's 2am and i have work tomorrow.

[Reply #195 on:]

 

Originally posted by me on 03-26-2007 13:32:
The Others could be posing as the Dharmas, after a takeover or coup... like, in their island, stealin there dataz...   

Faze one, all you suckers... umm, I dunno, I only keep score of mine. 

[Reply #196 on:]

Chay, that wasn't Jacob's eye.

Also, come to think about it, that was actually the show's real WTF moment:

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Richard?

[Reply #197 on:]

Ben wasn't lying about the islands healing properties I guess.
Or maybe that eye makeup is part of some uber anti-wrinkling cream!   
Although we did see him off the island later, ruling out some cloning or twins or cyborg, it could have been FSM all this time... doubtful.

[Reply #198 on:]

Some people think that the quick shot looks like Locke with a wig on.

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I can see the resemblance, but I doubt it's him...