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Aki

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« Reply #1120 on: 06-17-2011 00:28 »

I wonder how long until we start hearing of the season 7 episodes. We first heard of 6ACV14 right after 6ACV12 (September 2010), right?
I think it's going to be quite a while. We heard of Silence of the Clamps so soon because they had already been in production of season 6 for about 2 years. I think the voice work for all the episodes were done at that point, and they were probably sent to Rough Draft for animating. In this case, they've only had a month or two to work on season 7 so far. They won't have much to show for some time I think.

But there will still be lots of concept art, storyboards, and stuff like that available already. And a lot of plot points and new characters.
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« Reply #1121 on: 06-17-2011 04:16 »

If they've started voice-recording, that means that they have some of the episodes written which means that at very least, we might start to hear of plots for episodes in the making.

That said, I don't think we're going to hear much for a while due to what vonboy said. They won't release info until they begin their season 7A promotional period if they can help it, but we might get a few teases in interviews with Cohen / the cast / writers towards the end of 6B's run (just as some nuggets about season 6B came out during 6A's broadcast period).
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« Reply #1122 on: 06-17-2011 04:26 »

But with the 6B season premier beginning the 23rd (Next week), you'd think you'd hear some more on the plot details, at least.
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« Reply #1123 on: 06-17-2011 06:08 »

I don't think so. They're going to focus on promoting 6B for the time being and they won't want to water that promotion down with stuff from season 7.
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« Reply #1124 on: 06-17-2011 07:35 »

Plus there really isn't anything to tease about with Season 7 just yet. I mean, they're just now recording the first episode of the batch, so all they can do is tease with general story ideas, but they always do that. I wouldn't expect anything but Season 6B at Comic-Con and during the summer, but we might get a little tasting of Season 7A around Reincarnation-time.
Aki

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« Reply #1125 on: 06-17-2011 12:42 »

Hm, you're probably right. I only thought of the possible releases they could do, not that they would actually hold out on good information until the promotional period.

But with the 6B season premier beginning the 23rd (Next week), you'd think you'd hear some more on the plot details, at least.

No, not until 6B is over (or almost over) at the very least. In the first half of 6B they will constantly be hinting about the upcoming episode, as well as the exciting episodes of the second half, especially Reincarnation which seems to be their big favorite for this season.
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« Reply #1126 on: 06-17-2011 15:17 »
« Last Edit on: 06-17-2011 15:38 »

Thrilled to see some Season 7 info popping up.

New clip out, from "Silence of the Clamps". Oh, Kurt is going to love this...

http://ccinsider.comedycentral.com/2011/06/17/countdown-to-futurama-magnificent-squeezers/

So apparently Clamps' real name is Francis? Also, I'm pretty surprised to see some actual swearing and censor bleeps on the show. ("If I wanna fucking snip with these clamps, I will snip with these fucking clamps! Why do you think do they call me...Francis.")
Aki

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« Reply #1127 on: 06-17-2011 15:53 »

Wow, Clamps gets a job at Planet Express? This could either be really interesting, or highly disturbing. Those bleeped f-words seemed quite Family Guy-ish though...

And Clamps' real name is Francis? Cool.
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« Reply #1128 on: 06-17-2011 17:10 »

Sounds like he's undercover as a new employee named Francis based on those pauses, rather than that being his name.
Aki

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« Reply #1129 on: 06-17-2011 17:17 »
« Last Edit on: 06-17-2011 17:24 »

Ah... sounds plausible.
winna

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« Reply #1130 on: 06-17-2011 17:58 »

AOIs aren't necessarily non-canon.  The first AOI episode almost certainly occurred because the entire episode was actually a what if on the professor inventing a fing-longerer.  Assuming the what if machine is accurate (we have no reason to believe it isn't), then noting that the fing-longerer exists in later episodes, then the three questions being asked to the what if machine must have also certainly occurred.  The content of those answers may not have occurred because they were questions whose nature was for things that were highly unlikely to happen... if not impossible to occur in the existing timeline.  If the conditions for the questions occurred though... then knowing that the what if machine is accurate means that the scenarios would play out exactly as the what if machine predicted.  Furthermore.... after having read up on totalnerduk's Cyclical Time Theory and its usage of Temporal Inertia to explain the timeline that Futurama resides in... we can actually deduce that the criteria for the questions may have actually occurred at one time or another.

No, the implication is that the finglongerer exists, presumably invented by someone else. The Professor is envious and wonders how life would be if it was HE who had invented it rather than who actually did.

And then the Professor doubts the What If Machine's accuracy at times. "That story was preposterous, Stephen Hawking in a pizzeria".

They're canon in that the professor sat in his chair watching AOI I and the characters asking questions together in AOI II presumably did happen.

I believe the end of AOI I suggests the finglongerer does not yet exist since he looks at his finger at the very end.  Since the finglongerer exists in later episodes, we may presume that the events predicted in the What if machine from the professor's perspective of asking his question in AOI occurred.  Furthermore, even though Hawking in a pizzaria is preposterous, so are the events described in the what if question.... because Fry can't have not gone to the future because he already did go to the future... the professor's remark is not necessarily proof that the What If machine is inaccurate.

If the accuracy of the What If machine holds, then the AOI storylines are canonical at least in a possible reality scenario.... and the crew asking questions in AOI certainly happened, and can be considered fully canon.  However, if the accuracy of the What if machine is in reasonable doubt (which I don't think you or the show has given conclusive evidence on), then all conjectures made by the What If machine are not canon.

Why would he look longingly at his finger and say "So that's what life would be like if I invented the finglonger, oh well a man can dream... a man can dream" if it didn't already exist. It's completely illogical. By thinking it up, he basically just had invented it and the professor is the type of guy who makes the ideas that he thinks up. I can't read the line to mean anything other than "I wish I invented that instead of whoever actually did".

As for the rest of the debate -canon isn't about whether or not something COULD happen in a continuity, it's about whether or not something DID happen in a continuity. Regardless of how accurate the what if machine is, the events it portrayed never actually happen within Futurama's world -at least not to the knowledge of the audience and if you start including things that might have happened off-screen as canon then it could be seen as canon that Fry has had naturally blue hair since the age of 12 but dyes it because we don't know for sure that that isn't the case.

That quote by the Professor doesn't necessarily imply that somebody else invented the finglongerer; furthermore, if it had, don't you think he would have been more specific in what he said?  Sure... it's possible that the quote was meant in the way you inferred it (inferences are different from implications), but not necessarily so. 

If you're inference is incorrect, however, then the finglongerer was later invented/created by the professor, and Leela, Bender, and Fry all asked their questions to the What If machine, despite us not having witnessed them do so, but being shown them doing it before they did it.... thus making their question asking canon in the series because we can deduce that it actually occurred. 

We have reason to believe this to be the case... because when the crew first notices the What If machine in AOI 1, they are astonished by the marvel of the machine.... we are to believe that the question asking in AOI 2 is a real set of events and not another What If machine proposal dream sequence like the depiction in AOI 1.  However, the crew already knows about the What If machine in AOI 2... thus they have been introduced to it already.  From this information we can deduce that the events depicted in AOI 1 (just the question asking) have actually occurred.  This makes sense because the Professor has now used a finglongering device in the time between AOI 1 and AOI 2.  If somebody else had invented it, why did he not simply have one in AOI 1? 

Given the two facts that the finglongerer now appears in the show and that the crew has witnessed the What If machine before, we can safely conclude that the question asking depicted in AOI 1 actually did occur and that the What If machine is accurate in the information it gives. 

What ramifications does this have in Futurama canon?  It means that the What If machine can accurately determine how people will behave within a given set of parameters.  Ie... if Leela were just a little more impulsive, she would murder the whole crew.  Therefore, it is canon that Leela would be a murderer if she was slightly more impulsive, or even if she was made to be slightly more impulsive.  This fact seems to be confirmed of Leela's personality in Parasites Lost when Leela changes her mind about the worms and mercilessly murders the tiny nanobot crew. 

However, the events in the question asking are not necessarily canon, although they may have actually occurred at one point or another in Futurama's circular timeline.  Ie, the crew has not been murdered by Leela... but we can make a strong conjecture that on one loop in the timeline Leela is turning the lights off.  This is vastly different from your Fry has blue hair, because there is no data in Futurama to suggest that.  There is data in Futurama (and given my argument above, possibly incredibly accurate data) that shows that Al Gore is a level 10 vice president, and that it is also canon that one of the major responsibilities of the Vice President is to protect the space time continuum.
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« Reply #1131 on: 06-17-2011 19:07 »

Sweet clip, Clamps was pretty cool in that, not too sure about the bleeps though... hmpf
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« Reply #1132 on: 06-17-2011 19:37 »

The Clamps clip was alright, but I didn't love it. I felt a bit sorry for Zoidberg. It was kinda amusing seeing Clamps swear in a mad rage, but it also felt a bit, I don't know, out of place? hmpf...
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« Reply #1133 on: 06-17-2011 19:39 »

Agreed. Family Guy-ish, as previously said. no no
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« Reply #1134 on: 06-17-2011 19:40 »

minority report is one of my favorite sci-fi movies. i can't wait for that homage.
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« Reply #1135 on: 06-17-2011 19:46 »

I wonder if they will show anything from the videogame segment of Reincarnation in this countdown? Everyday, I'm hoping to get something for it, and they post something else up entirely. Are they maybe wanting to keep it under wraps for now?
Jezzem

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« Reply #1136 on: 06-17-2011 20:24 »

Agreed. Family Guy-ish, as previously said. no no

No, bleeps are, if anything, more South Park-ish than Family Guy-ish.

Family Guy tends to change its lines for the broadcast version more than bleeping them.
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« Reply #1137 on: 06-17-2011 20:28 »

They're allowed to say Shit on South Park now, so the bleeps are getting slightly lower. smile
Gorky

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« Reply #1138 on: 06-17-2011 20:46 »

I agree with Otis and Danny that the bleeped-out dialogue was kind of too much (I felt the same way when they did it with Leela in "Into the Wild Green Yonder"). For some reason, I wouldn't be bothered if we actually heard the various f-bombs being dropped--but bleeping them out is so conspicuous, so look-at-how-edgy-we-are, and it detracts from the other, funnier stuff going on in the scene.
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« Reply #1139 on: 06-17-2011 20:50 »

Weird.  The bleeping didn't bother me at all.  I thought it fitted a character like Clamps which is supposed to be a bit Italian stereotypical.

Maybe I have seen Jon Stewart's terrible impressions too much.
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« Reply #1140 on: 06-17-2011 20:51 »

I don't recall Leela being bleeped in ITWGY, but I remember that the electrocution sounds from her Shock Collar in Bender's Game blocked out her language.
Gorky

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« Reply #1141 on: 06-17-2011 20:53 »

Unless I'm remembering wrong, I think they bleep Leela when she's wrestling with that cute little muck leech at the beginning of the movie.

And Svip: I get that Clamps is supposed to be a parody of those rascally Italians; I guess I just don't find it so funny.
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« Reply #1142 on: 06-17-2011 20:54 »

I vaguely remember...
futurefreak

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« Reply #1143 on: 06-17-2011 21:00 »

How has this thread been allowed to reach 29 pages? Did someone answer that already?

It's an effing awesome thread, I was just curious.
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« Reply #1144 on: 06-17-2011 21:04 »

Hey guys, I just remembered something, remember this concept image released from Neutopia:



What if it's the Male version of the ship? tongue
InfoMan!

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« Reply #1145 on: 06-17-2011 21:07 »

2 things.

Comic con!
Futurama is back!  Again!!!  On stage will be Creator/Executive Producer Matt Groening, Executive Producer David X. Cohen, and stars Billy West (Fry, Professor Farnsworth, Dr. Zoidberg), Katey Sagal (Leela), John DiMaggio (Bender), and Maurice LaMarche (Kif Kroker, Calculon, Morbo).  Get a sneak peek at never-before-seen footage of Futurama reincarnated as Japanese anime, along with a thrilling preview of this summer's all-new season on Comedy Central. Plus more!  Much more!  Moderated by Bill Morrison.

some guy for the website UGO tweeted this

TVKevLance‎ Talking to Futurama showrunner David X. Cohen today, will take first possible excuse to respond with "to shreds, you say."

I will keep on the look out for the article, shouldn't be too long til it's published online
Gorky

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« Reply #1146 on: 06-17-2011 21:08 »
« Last Edit on: 06-17-2011 21:09 »

What if it's the Male version of the ship? tongue

Do men have that many propellers?

And Randi: I think the thread's only gotten this far past the twenty-page mark because the mods don't patrol much in on-topic. Also, yes, it's awesomeness has probably saved it.

Edit: Thanks for the info, uh, InfoMan. wink
InfoMan!

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« Reply #1147 on: 06-17-2011 21:28 »
« Last Edit on: 06-17-2011 21:30 »

Everything on the london expo panel

http://www.mcmbuzz.com/2011/05/30/orbofuturama-panel-at-mcm-expo/
 
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« Reply #1148 on: 06-17-2011 22:03 »

Thanks, that was a good read.

Interesting how they keep talking about a theatrical film. I think it could work much better than the DVD films, simply because they can actually adapt to the format.
pluche93

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« Reply #1149 on: 06-17-2011 22:14 »

and I do think that a theatrical movie of Futurama would be way better than the one they did of the Simpsons
pluche93

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« Reply #1150 on: 06-17-2011 22:16 »

They're allowed to say Shit on South Park now, so the bleeps are getting slightly lower. smile

that's funny because in the french version of South Park they can say anything they want there is never a single bleep... :P
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« Reply #1151 on: 06-17-2011 22:39 »

'The much “deeper” season 6 of Futurama will be airing in the UK some time in the future, but currently no specific date has been set.'

PROOF? EVIDENCE? CONFIRMATION?! frown
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« Reply #1152 on: 06-17-2011 23:08 »

I wonder if they will show anything from the videogame segment of Reincarnation in this countdown? Everyday, I'm hoping to get something for it, and they post something else up entirely. Are they maybe wanting to keep it under wraps for now?

I think there's good odds of us seeing a clip from the video game segment of the episode on the countdown site.


'The much “deeper” season 6 of Futurama will be airing in the UK some time in the future, but currently no specific date has been set.'

PROOF? EVIDENCE? CONFIRMATION?! frown

Sounds like something of a confirmation in itself. I'm going to choose to believe that they know something we don't and that season 6 will indeed be airing as one complete production season in the UK (hopefully leading to that complete DVD set we'd all like).
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« Reply #1153 on: 06-17-2011 23:18 »

airing as one complete production season

Is that what they mean by "deeper"?
Aki

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« Reply #1154 on: 06-17-2011 23:21 »

Unless I'm remembering wrong, I think they bleep Leela when she's wrestling with that cute little muck leech at the beginning of the movie.

I think so too. I have the memory of thinking it was a bad, bad idea. As someone else said, it feels extremely "look at us, we can be cool and edgy". They could do without sinking to such a level. Still, this is nitpicking, it's just one scene and it doesn't effect what I think we'll see from the episode.

I'm getting more curious of the episode though. Will it actually revolve around Clamps, from his point of view, or will he be the antagonist? Or will it be both ways, where we see both perspectives quite clearly? I wasn't very excited about "The Silence of the Clamps" before, but I'm getting excited.

I wonder if they will show anything from the videogame segment of Reincarnation in this countdown? Everyday, I'm hoping to get something for it, and they post something else up entirely. Are they maybe wanting to keep it under wraps for now?

I don't think so. I think the days left of the Countdown will be clips from the first half of the broadcast season, and especially seeing as a clip from Reincarnation (the anime sequence) will be screened on Comic-Con. Maybe they will do like they did last year and release a clip or two a few days before the episode airs.

I agree with Otis and Danny that the bleeped-out dialogue was kind of too much

Hey! I was first to comment on that! I disliked it before it was cool! Look!

Those bleeped f-words seemed quite Family Guy-ish though...
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« Reply #1155 on: 06-17-2011 23:37 »
« Last Edit on: 06-17-2011 23:43 »

http://www.comedycentral.com/videos/index.jhtml?videoId=389339&title=sneak-peek---magnificent-squeezers

And if you can't see it like me from outside of the USA see this below.

http://www.facebook.com/slurmed


Edit:
Dammit I'm an idiot. Already posted.
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So when it's on late at night or on DVD will it be uncensored! XD

Bad signs for those who don't like profanity. (I like profanity.)
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« Reply #1156 on: 06-18-2011 01:22 »
« Last Edit on: 06-18-2011 01:23 »

Profanity shouldn't mix with Futurama. The show is classy, especially when considering it's science fiction and considering its rival shows (Family Guy et al, South Park).


'The much “deeper” season 6 of Futurama will be airing in the UK some time in the future, but currently no specific date has been set.'

PROOF? EVIDENCE? CONFIRMATION?! frown
That's a non-story. It doesn't say when it'll air, just that it will air, which we already could've guessed long ago. Tell me when they give you a confirmed air date and then I'll give you the party poppers.
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« Reply #1157 on: 06-18-2011 02:03 »

That Tron clip looked pretty awesome, nice to find out how they handle the Minority Report theme.

Anyway, all the new clips look like we got an even better season coming up. Can't wait.
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« Reply #1158 on: 06-18-2011 10:02 »

Hm, not liking the fact that uncensored swearing is coming into the mix... I have no problem with swearing, it's just as others have said, it's not Futurama-y... frown
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« Reply #1159 on: 06-18-2011 12:55 »

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