Gorky
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« Reply #1080 on: 06-16-2011 01:33 »
« Last Edit on: 06-16-2011 01:35 »
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Those clips look excellent. It's interesting just how many characters are there in Neutopia -do you think they'll all play into the gender-swapping plot or if they're just there in act I for whatever reason.
Yeah, I was wondering that, too. I'm assuming there's a perfectly reasonable explanation for the extras in that scene, but I doubt they'll play a part in the main story. Also, that alien...rock-looking guy...looks a bit like a discolored Michelin man. Is that goth chick the Professor's fat love in 300 Big Boys by the way? I hope she's having a larger role, I don't think we've seen her even in the background before.
That she is. I don't see why she would have a bigger role in the episode, but it could be interesting. This whole episode could be interesting. And, you know, really disgusting.
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Aki
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That she is. I don't see why she would have a bigger role in the episode, but it could be interesting. The reason of my reasoning is that she has not appeared in background scenes before, and she is an odd-looking character to have there without any real purpose as she might distract from the episode. Then again, she might just be a cameo character.
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Gorky
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Dr. Goodensexy/Cahill (the oopsie-poopsie girl from BBS) is also in the background. My guess is they were just looking for somewhat obscure female and male characters to fill out the scene, and that they won't play a significant role in the episode. 'Course, I've been wrong before.
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Aki
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Ah, I didn't notice her before. Yeah, you're probably right. But let's hope that you're not, I want to see more of goth girl. Then again, I don't want to know how Goodensexy looks like as a dude. :P
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Gorky
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Badensexy, I'm sure.
On the male side, I also noticed Victor the car salesman in the background of one shot. Callbacks like that just make me smile.
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Aki
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Yeah, I like how Futurama has gotten more and more minor characters, so such scenes as this one can easily be filled in without inventing new characters. Awesome. Awesome to the max.
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Aki
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I also like how sophisticated the rock alien seems. I took him for a pervert before seeing this clip. It seems more like he is scientifically minded, and wants to find out which gender is the best one, and therefore performs careful operations.
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Aki
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Awesome! I wonder if that's in the Internet? Looks like it. I hope the rest of the Countdown will be videos too.
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winna
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AOIs aren't necessarily non-canon. The first AOI episode almost certainly occurred because the entire episode was actually a what if on the professor inventing a fing-longerer. Assuming the what if machine is accurate (we have no reason to believe it isn't), then noting that the fing-longerer exists in later episodes, then the three questions being asked to the what if machine must have also certainly occurred. The content of those answers may not have occurred because they were questions whose nature was for things that were highly unlikely to happen... if not impossible to occur in the existing timeline. If the conditions for the questions occurred though... then knowing that the what if machine is accurate means that the scenarios would play out exactly as the what if machine predicted. Furthermore.... after having read up on totalnerduk's Cyclical Time Theory and its usage of Temporal Inertia to explain the timeline that Futurama resides in... we can actually deduce that the criteria for the questions may have actually occurred at one time or another.
No, the implication is that the finglongerer exists, presumably invented by someone else. The Professor is envious and wonders how life would be if it was HE who had invented it rather than who actually did.
And then the Professor doubts the What If Machine's accuracy at times. "That story was preposterous, Stephen Hawking in a pizzeria".
They're canon in that the professor sat in his chair watching AOI I and the characters asking questions together in AOI II presumably did happen.
I believe the end of AOI I suggests the finglongerer does not yet exist since he looks at his finger at the very end. Since the finglongerer exists in later episodes, we may presume that the events predicted in the What if machine from the professor's perspective of asking his question in AOI occurred. Furthermore, even though Hawking in a pizzaria is preposterous, so are the events described in the what if question.... because Fry can't have not gone to the future because he already did go to the future... the professor's remark is not necessarily proof that the What If machine is inaccurate. If the accuracy of the What If machine holds, then the AOI storylines are canonical at least in a possible reality scenario.... and the crew asking questions in AOI certainly happened, and can be considered fully canon. However, if the accuracy of the What if machine is in reasonable doubt (which I don't think you or the show has given conclusive evidence on), then all conjectures made by the What If machine are not canon.
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DannyJC13
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« Reply #1093 on: 06-16-2011 17:50 »
« Last Edit on: 06-16-2011 18:03 »
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Wow, sweet Neutopia clip, anyone got the Facebook page with the working Law and Oracle Tron clip on? Never mind, I know now to just go straight to the Futurama Point's FB page. It could also be about you being 14 and entering puberty.
Or it could be I'm not gay. But she was a guy... But I don't find Fry hot... So I'm not gay. Awesome! I wonder if that's in the Internet? Maybe the guy in the car is a hacker, troll, virus, spammer, etc. Also, I've always been looking forward to Neutopia, I doubt it's gonna be another IAGDL... Lighten up a little guys, pointless comedy is funny once in a while, gender swapping looks like a great plot.
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Otis P Jivefunk
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Wow, a lot has happened since I last visited this thread. Watched the clips, all are great. Nothing bad in any of them, in fact lots of very good and humorous material. The animation in the Tron homage is quite amazing too!...
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Dorsal Axe
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« Reply #1095 on: 06-16-2011 18:43 »
« Last Edit on: 06-16-2011 18:45 »
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http://www.animationmagazine.net/tv/cohen-spills-the-beans-on-futuramas-new-season/
Thanks for the link. It's an interesting read. So Law and Oracle really is going to be based on Minority Report. And this particular bit about "Reincarnation" caught my eye: We even used jazz for the black-and-white section, licensed actual videogame music and anime scores for the episode. Also: It’s the same show that people love and know — but there will be more information about the future that will shock everyone! What could this mean?
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cyber_turnip
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« Reply #1097 on: 06-16-2011 19:11 »
« Last Edit on: 06-16-2011 19:20 »
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AOIs aren't necessarily non-canon. The first AOI episode almost certainly occurred because the entire episode was actually a what if on the professor inventing a fing-longerer. Assuming the what if machine is accurate (we have no reason to believe it isn't), then noting that the fing-longerer exists in later episodes, then the three questions being asked to the what if machine must have also certainly occurred. The content of those answers may not have occurred because they were questions whose nature was for things that were highly unlikely to happen... if not impossible to occur in the existing timeline. If the conditions for the questions occurred though... then knowing that the what if machine is accurate means that the scenarios would play out exactly as the what if machine predicted. Furthermore.... after having read up on totalnerduk's Cyclical Time Theory and its usage of Temporal Inertia to explain the timeline that Futurama resides in... we can actually deduce that the criteria for the questions may have actually occurred at one time or another.
No, the implication is that the finglongerer exists, presumably invented by someone else. The Professor is envious and wonders how life would be if it was HE who had invented it rather than who actually did.
And then the Professor doubts the What If Machine's accuracy at times. "That story was preposterous, Stephen Hawking in a pizzeria".
They're canon in that the professor sat in his chair watching AOI I and the characters asking questions together in AOI II presumably did happen.
I believe the end of AOI I suggests the finglongerer does not yet exist since he looks at his finger at the very end. Since the finglongerer exists in later episodes, we may presume that the events predicted in the What if machine from the professor's perspective of asking his question in AOI occurred. Furthermore, even though Hawking in a pizzaria is preposterous, so are the events described in the what if question.... because Fry can't have not gone to the future because he already did go to the future... the professor's remark is not necessarily proof that the What If machine is inaccurate.
If the accuracy of the What If machine holds, then the AOI storylines are canonical at least in a possible reality scenario.... and the crew asking questions in AOI certainly happened, and can be considered fully canon. However, if the accuracy of the What if machine is in reasonable doubt (which I don't think you or the show has given conclusive evidence on), then all conjectures made by the What If machine are not canon.
Why would he look longingly at his finger and say "So that's what life would be like if I invented the finglonger, oh well a man can dream... a man can dream" if it didn't already exist. It's completely illogical. By thinking it up, he basically just had invented it and the professor is the type of guy who makes the ideas that he thinks up. I can't read the line to mean anything other than "I wish I invented that instead of whoever actually did". As for the rest of the debate -canon isn't about whether or not something COULD happen in a continuity, it's about whether or not something DID happen in a continuity. Regardless of how accurate the what if machine is, the events it portrayed never actually happen within Futurama's world -at least not to the knowledge of the audience and if you start including things that might have happened off-screen as canon then it could be seen as canon that Fry has had naturally blue hair since the age of 12 but dyes it because we don't know for sure that that isn't the case. Anyway... that's a nice interview full of titbits. Reincarnation IS airing in this block of episodes which is nice, Stephen Hawking is appearing in the video game segment of it and the licensing of actual video game music interests me. I'm also really happy that David Cohen still has dreams of a theatrical Futurama film one day. I'm really looking forwards to this season.
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Tedward
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Since the finglongerer exists in later episodes, we may presume that the events predicted in the What if machine from the professor's perspective of asking his question in AOI occurred.
But the What-If machine showed what would have happened if he had invented the finglonger, not necessarily what would happen if he did invent in in the near future. Sure, the question-asking might have ensued as it did in AOI's simulation, but it might not have. Why would he look longingly at his finger and say "So that's what life would be like if I invented the finglonger, oh well a man can dream... a man can dream" if it didn't already exist. It's completely illogical. By thinking it up, he basically just had invented it and the professor is the type of guy who makes the ideas that he thinks up. I can't read the line to mean anything other than "I wish I invented that instead of whoever actually did".
I hadn't thought of it that way before...I thought that it was simply a joke that the Professor would be so unable to invent the Finglonger (at that point in time, anyway) when, compared to his other inventions, it seems like it would be quite simple to create.
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i_c_weiner
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From Maurice LaMarche's Facebook: Recording the first episode of Season 7 of Futurama. Happy. — at LA Studios.
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Otis P Jivefunk
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From Maurice LaMarche's Facebook:
Recording the first episode of Season 7 of Futurama. Happy. at LA Studios. OMG! ...
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Aki
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« Reply #1101 on: 06-16-2011 20:20 »
« Last Edit on: 06-16-2011 20:24 »
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Why would he look longingly at his finger and say "So that's what life would be like if I invented the finglonger, oh well a man can dream... a man can dream" if it didn't already exist. It's completely illogical. By thinking it up, he basically just had invented it and the professor is the type of guy who makes the ideas that he thinks up. Sorry, but that is the joke. From Maurice LaMarche's Facebook:
Recording the first episode of Season 7 of Futurama. Happy. — at LA Studios. What, where? Can't see it..
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Aki
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He may have deleted it because he wasn't allowed to talk about it... Possible. I shall await the word from someone (i_c_weiner?) saying they say it and that it must have been deleted. so? any link to see the little video from law and oracle? I know I'm always asking that but damn... I really want to see them!!!
Still, proxy.
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DannyJC13
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He may have deleted it because he wasn't allowed to talk about it...
so? any link to see the little video from law and oracle? I know I'm always asking that but damn... I really want to see them!!!
pluche, all the vids work in the UK on the Futurama Point Facebook page, here: http://www.facebook.com/slurmedMake sure you click on the blue play button or the actual video image icon, not the link.
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Aki
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Wow, lots of good information in that interview. Summary:
* "The Late Philip J. Fry" will be submitted to the Emmys. * The title to "Neutopia" is a combination of the words “neutered” and “utopia” (was I the only one who didn't see that? :P) * As Dorsal Axe said, "Law and Oracle" is one big Minority Report homage. Annoying since I haven't seen it, but I have a couple of weeks of time. * Either Cohen is mistaken, or they have changed the order of the sequences in Reincarnation - anime used to be second act and video game the third, now it seems like it's the other way around. * "Real" music has been ordered to suite the sequences in Reincarnation. * The anime section of Reincarnation will be screened on this year's Comic-Con. Lucky you who are going there. * Cohen is interested in making another Futurama feature length epic, but not until the series is cancelled again.
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Aki
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Holy crap, it's true! Thank you.
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Aki
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I wonder how long until we start hearing of the season 7 episodes. We first heard of 6ACV14 right after 6ACV12 (September 2010), right?
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