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i_c_weiner

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« Reply #160 on: 07-03-2010 05:51 »
« Last Edit on: 07-03-2010 05:52 »

The first half of episode 3 wasn't bad, but it was just idiotic after the whole part of Leela crashing the ship because of stupidity. That's Fry's job, not Leela's. I miss the old-school witty jokes, not these Family Guy-style jokes.

I can honestly say I've given up on Futurama, which 3 weeks ago, would have been hard for me to say, but season 6 has just ruined it for me.
Wow, one post and he's already given up on Futurama. He puts every other complainer on this board to shame!

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« Reply #161 on: 07-03-2010 05:55 »
« Last Edit on: 07-03-2010 06:00 »

The thing that's bugging me are all the pop-culture jokes they're dropping left and right. Ie: The Marilyn Monroe joke, the Jared from Subway reference, and the whole Susan the Boil thing. Otherwise this was a decent episode. And I've enjoyed each of them after watching them more than once, they're not spectacular but I still like to watch.

In other news: Fuck Susan Boyle.
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« Reply #162 on: 07-03-2010 06:01 »

The first half of episode 3 wasn't bad, but it was just idiotic after the whole part of Leela crashing the ship because of stupidity. That's Fry's job, not Leela's. I miss the old-school witty jokes, not these Family Guy-style jokes.

I can honestly say I've given up on Futurama, which 3 weeks ago, would have been hard for me to say, but season 6 has just ruined it for me.

Since when has Leela been a saint? Yea, she's usually the most levelheaded of the bunch, but she has her moments too. In The Cryonic Woman, Leela left the keys to the spaceship INSIDE the spaceship while Fry, an idiot, and Bender, a klepto, were in it. Seems pretty genius to me, am I right?
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« Reply #163 on: 07-03-2010 06:02 »

The first half of episode 3 wasn't bad, but it was just idiotic after the whole part of Leela crashing the ship because of stupidity. That's Fry's job, not Leela's. I miss the old-school witty jokes, not these Family Guy-style jokes.

I can honestly say I've given up on Futurama, which 3 weeks ago, would have been hard for me to say, but season 6 has just ruined it for me.
Wow, one post and he's already given up on Futurama. He puts every other complainer on this board to shame!


I've been watching Futurama for years. I was posting on another forum after the first 2 episodes, but my friend pointed this one out to me, and it's much more active. But yeah, after the hype before the first episode, I've been severely disappointed with this show.
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« Reply #164 on: 07-03-2010 06:03 »

The first half of episode 3 wasn't bad, but it was just idiotic after the whole part of Leela crashing the ship because of stupidity. That's Fry's job, not Leela's. I miss the old-school witty jokes, not these Family Guy-style jokes.

I can honestly say I've given up on Futurama, which 3 weeks ago, would have been hard for me to say, but season 6 has just ruined it for me.

Since when has Leela been a saint? Yea, she's usually the most levelheaded of the bunch, but she has her moments too. In The Cryonic Woman, Leela left the keys to the spaceship INSIDE the spaceship while Fry, an idiot, and Bender, a klepto, were in it. Seems pretty genius to me, am I right?
Its the way they went about her crashing really. It was just stupid. Also that was mostly just the point where there was nothing good after it in the episode.
i_c_weiner

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« Reply #165 on: 07-03-2010 06:08 »

The thing that's bugging me are all the pop-culture jokes they're dropping left and right. Ie: The Marilyn Monroe joke, the Jared from Subway reference, and the whole Susan the Boil thing. Otherwise this was a decent episode. And I've enjoyed each of them after watching them more than once, they're not spectacular but I still like to watch.

In other news: Fuck Susan Boyle.
The Marilyn Monroe gag was classic Futurama. I admit I groaned at Jared...
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« Reply #166 on: 07-03-2010 06:10 »

btw @ all the shippers.

fry and leela are not a couple. with the whole robot thingy, they agreed to going back to being friends (yes, real leela and robot fry, but it doesnt seem to make a difference). she even called him a good friend and not a good boyfriend after he took a dive in the pool.
this also may explain the last episode a little bit better.

just suck it and enjoy the episodes.

Actually they never said square one =) Just taking it slow. Of course they're saying "You're a good friend" you're actually saying you can't be friends with your lover... and that's just wrong.

Well, in my opinion anyway.

Maybe you're one of those guys who thinks "Bros before ho's" and if that's the case, well I frankly don't care about any of your opinions anyway =)
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« Reply #167 on: 07-03-2010 06:15 »

I didn't mind Leela crashing the ship because her crashing the ship is sort of a running joke in the series by this point. She does it all the time.

But I cringed at the Some Like It Hot, Marilyn Monroe bit. Sure, Futurama have always done little movie parody type moments of that nature but I just found that particular one painfully unfunny.
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« Reply #168 on: 07-03-2010 06:32 »

btw @ all the shippers.

fry and leela are not a couple. with the whole robot thingy, they agreed to going back to being friends (yes, real leela and robot fry, but it doesnt seem to make a difference). she even called him a good friend and not a good boyfriend after he took a dive in the pool.
this also may explain the last episode a little bit better.

just suck it and enjoy the episodes.

Actually they never said square one =) Just taking it slow. Of course they're saying "You're a good friend" you're actually saying you can't be friends with your lover... and that's just wrong.

Well, in my opinion anyway.

Maybe you're one of those guys who thinks "Bros before ho's" and if that's the case, well I frankly don't care about any of your opinions anyway =)

Errr, FemJesse, I think Stone's agreeing with you. They're not at square one, but they definitely aren't a couple. They're somewhere in between at the moment.
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« Reply #169 on: 07-03-2010 06:34 »

What smells like bloody sinuses?
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« Reply #170 on: 07-03-2010 06:46 »

I really don't believe that the show has changed all that much, tonally, but I suppose that's up for debate.

Anyway: Has anyone considered the possibility that this whole goat vomit thing was itself a spoof of disgusting things people do on the internet? I feel like it wasn't just the writers trying to gross us out: they were also trying to lampoon all the sick and twisted nonsense that people will do to get noticed online. There's a reason Fry's twits get so many views, y'know?
This is basically how I saw it. People do gross disgusting things online to shock people just to get views.  That's what things like two girls one cup is all about.

I felt the episode started off strong, (I dunno why but the cell phone saying "Well that's a fine how-do-you-do?" was really funny for some reason) but got a bit rocky toward the middle, but ended strong.   I can see why this episode would go over poorly with some people, because,  yeah the pop references were a bit overdone but I think it's a bit too soon to be saying it's the end of Futurama.  I'd give it a few more episodes at least, if nothing else give them a while to get back up on their feet. 

It may not be exactly where it left off, but so far Futurama is doing just fine IMO.
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« Reply #171 on: 07-03-2010 09:10 »

I thought the episode was in the OK to good realm. The beginning was fun, the end was abrupt, the boil part could have been shortened a bit (and resolved!). Still more enjoyable than a lot of what makes its way on TV. 7/10

For some reason, I get the feeling that a lot of people are complaining about the boil and yet it will probably be a popular avatar wink

i_c_weiner

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« Reply #172 on: 07-03-2010 09:34 »

I was waiting for you to come in and give your opinion. It seems like your complaints on the episode are widely shared, although some are a bit more, um je ne sais quoi, emotionally invested into their opinions.


And I agree on Susan, but, for some reason, I have a feeling like some troll or fake account will be using it...
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« Reply #173 on: 07-03-2010 11:33 »
« Last Edit on: 07-03-2010 11:34 »

I just registered to give my opinion on the whole thing, maybe even stay on the forums, who knows...

I remember, back when "House M.D" started season 5, I though it was awful and after about 5 episodes I had enough and just quit the series. But after some time I just couldn't resist and watched about 10 new episodes, one after the other, I liked it and I still watch "House M.D". I believe the same will happen to anyone who swears to never watch Futurama again.

As for the episode- I thought it was good(7.5/10). I never have watched a singe Family Guy episode, so can't make any connection to that, and I probably wouldn't. Also with time everything changes, so even if we get some new aspect to the show, I'll just get used to them, because they really don't change Futurama that much, at least the Boil didn't for me.

Also you have to understand that every show gets different with time, the only reason why we don't notice is because they do it very slowly with each episode, but with Futurama they just had this gap(what was it 5 years ?).
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« Reply #174 on: 07-03-2010 12:11 »

To be fair, a lot of Verrone's other episodes aren't popular in the fandom for similar reasons. I suppose next week will be better if there's other non-Premish writers behind it.
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« Reply #175 on: 07-03-2010 12:18 »

Welcome to PEEL, Sanotrex. You seem like a level-headed, rational fella, and for that I'm grateful.

Also you have to understand that every show gets different with time, the only reason why we don't notice is because they do it very slowly with each episode, but with Futurama they just had this gap(what was it 5 years ?).

I agree completely with this. I mean, Futurama changed a lot during its original run. Compare a lot of season four, which was more emotional (maybe even a bit darker) and included a lot more episodes that focused on secondary characters ("A Taste of Freedom", "Spanish Fry"), with seasons one or two. When things change and we still find quality in the new stuff, we call it improvement. When things change and we're a bit iffy on them, we call it a drop in quality. But I'd argue that anything new is a bit iffy, and it takes us a while to warm up to it (like Fishy Joe said--I don't think it was in this thread, but I get confused because the topics overlap--it took him a while to come around to season four, but now he quite enjoys it).

Do I think these last three episodes are the best episodes the show's ever produced? Not exactly. But they're very enjoyable to me in their own right, and I really do think that they get better and better with each rewatch, probably because I get a better sense of them and they become as familiar to me as the original 72 episodes. No one ever said that these episodes had to fit comfortably with the original series, quality- and tone-wise; really, the writers' only job is to entertain us. So it might help to view these new episodes as somewhat separate from the original series (even though, to be fair, I think all three of the new episodes are better than some of the drivel produced during the original run (Buggalo, anyone?)).
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« Reply #176 on: 07-03-2010 12:21 »

To be fair, a lot of Verrone's other episodes aren't popular in the fandom for similar reasons. I suppose next week will be better if there's other non-Premish writers behind it.

Hey, what you know?  Let's see at the rest of his episodes and think about that for a moment:

"A Fishful of Dollars" - decent episode
"I Second that Emotion" - eh, all right episode
"A Clone of My Own" - OK episode
"The Problem with Popplers" - hilarious episode
"That's Lobstertainment!" - subsubpar
"A Leela of Her Own" - subpar
"The Sting" - brilliant episode
"Bender's Game Part 4" - bad

Verrone is pretty much all over the map to me.  His episodes are much less predictable of taste than, say, Ken Keeler or Kaplan.

Also, for those of you reading the comics, you may be familiar his writings there.
Gorky

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« Reply #177 on: 07-03-2010 12:25 »

The only episodes of Verrone's that I'm not fond of are "That's Lobstertainment!" and, of course, "Bender's Game." Most of his episodes have been average to above-average by me--and "The Problem With Popplers" and "The Sting" elevate him to the same status as Keeler and DXC and Kaplan, in my book.
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« Reply #178 on: 07-03-2010 12:38 »
« Last Edit on: 07-03-2010 12:43 »

I'm only not fond of ALoHO and BG on that list.

The thing with Verrone is that he produces great humor in those episodes. Speaking of produced, he's the producer for 59 of the original 72 episodes and co-ex for all four movies. If I remember correctly, he's still listed as a co-ex for these new episodes, along with the classic writers stable. And, on top of that, he was editor of the Harvard Lampoon, he wrote for Rugrats, and was the president of the Writers Guild during the strike! He couldn't be re-elected because of term limits and is now on the WGA Executive Board. I forgive him for his missteps in some episodes.


Now that we've had DXC, Matt, and Patric all have writing credits, I'm anticipating Keeler, Kaplan, Horsted, and Odenkirk to complete the stable. I know that Lewis Morton has an episode sometime, but I can't remember which it is.
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« Reply #179 on: 07-03-2010 14:11 »

I admit I groaned at Jared...

FWIW I thought it was one of those product-placement ads that the show is stuck with now.  They're intrusive and not funny, but that's the cost of doing business.
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« Reply #180 on: 07-03-2010 14:16 »
« Last Edit on: 07-03-2010 14:20 »

No one on this Futurama board likes Futurama anymore -.-

*spit takes all over monitor*  

Wow, blast from the past.  Nice to see you again.

Just to stay on topic...I gave it an 8.  I laughed.  That's enough for me. 
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« Reply #181 on: 07-03-2010 14:30 »

I'm only not fond of ALoHO and BG on that list.

The thing with Verrone is that he produces great humor in those episodes. Speaking of produced, he's the producer for 59 of the original 72 episodes and co-ex for all four movies. If I remember correctly, he's still listed as a co-ex for these new episodes, along with the classic writers stable. And, on top of that, he was editor of the Harvard Lampoon, he wrote for Rugrats, and was the president of the Writers Guild during the strike! He couldn't be re-elected because of term limits and is now on the WGA Executive Board. I forgive him for his missteps in some episodes.

He also wrote for Muppets Tonight which was a terrific show. (if you like kid-friendly puppet shows. Which I do.)

But yeah, Verrone has always been all over the map. He's written some of my least favorite episodes, but then he's also done Popplers and The Sting which are two of my favorites. I think my biggest problem with him is that he doesn't always take the scifi setting as far as it can go. Most of his stories can be done just as well in present day. Leela of her Own was basically a baseball story except they used the word Blurnsball...there was nothing inherently futuristic or scifi-ey about the story. Fishful of Dollars is funny, but the story itself is pretty boring--no alien adventures, just a lot of sitting around on earth, reminiscing about 20th century stuffs.



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Now that we've had DXC, Matt, and Patric all have writing credits, I'm anticipating Keeler, Kaplan, Horsted, and Odenkirk to complete the stable. I know that Lewis Morton has an episode sometime, but I can't remember which it is.

Lew Morton was always my favorite writer, but I'm not sure if I should be anticipating his episode or not. I loved all of his episodes except for Bender Should Not Be Allowed on TV, which he wrote freelance. Maybe he doesn't work as well freelance, or maybe it's just a coincidence.
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« Reply #182 on: 07-03-2010 16:17 »

Rewatched it, still hate the current pop culture references, the viral video theme, the twittering theme, the eyephone theme (I hate all these things IRL though, so no surprise), but I laughed at a few more things this time around. The Third World (Of the Antares System) made me laugh, as did the ship being stripped down within moments of having landed. The bird flying through the smog and disintegrating also made me snigger uncontrollably for a moment, and the ending where Fry and Bender's followers are turned into mindless consumer zombies for Mom's entertainment made me smile this time around.

The boil is a terrible joke, has a terrible voice, and irritated me solidly all the way through, first time around. This time, I enjoyed it for the cheap gag it was, rather than being annoyed there was nothing more to it. I also kinda liked how Fry and Leela are still almost in love one minute, pissing each other off the next. That's the way I like the F/L ship flown.

The lack of continuity with Mom's character bugged me though. She's not supposed to be a gratuitously vicious old bitch with a mouth like a sewer. She's supposed to be a vicious old bitch due to something we can see, and have a mouth like a sewer with some interesting effluent in it. Having her repeat the word bastard so many times without any interesting twists in there felt forced. Having her turn millions of people into mindless consumer zombies, compelled to purchase new eyephones for no discernable reason other than the fact that it seemed to amuse her immensely though... that was some good mom right there.

So it has elements I enjoyed. I'll watch it again. But it's still for me the first subpar episode of the new run. It deserves the 3/10 I gave it, perhaps it deserves 4. But it doesn't deserve much more than that.

I really hope that going forward we see fewer current pop culture references, more background jokes, more nerd humour, and more of the dark humour that Futurama originally had in spades (rather than the satire which it does so poorly and South Park does so much better). My expectations though, are now fully lowered for next week.
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« Reply #183 on: 07-03-2010 16:44 »

I didn't mind Leela crashing the ship because her crashing the ship is sort of a running joke in the series by this point. She does it all the time.

Plus, it quite nicely showed the whole gadget circus, which was the main point of the episode.
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« Reply #184 on: 07-03-2010 16:48 »

I liked the crashing bit, it was one of the funnier moments for obvious reasons, but the way she landed on the table was just funny as hell for me.

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« Reply #185 on: 07-03-2010 17:02 »

The first time I watched it I loved it but felt that the Susan part was completely stupid.

The second time I watched it I still loved it then didn't care about the Susan part because it is obvious we will never her it again.

I give you happy poopy time!

Best episode this season yet.
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« Reply #186 on: 07-03-2010 17:43 »

So I'd never even heard of susan boyle until after seeing the episode, twice. Not catching the reference, I thought the whole singing boil thing was just plain dumb. Now that I know who susan boyle is, I'm more annoyed.  Talk about references that don't have staying power, a contestant from a British reality TV show? Seriously?

A lot of you seem to think twitter references will seem dated in five years; I lack your high opinion of humanity. I don't think people will ever stop wanting to broadcast every asinine thing they do, see, or think to anyone dull enough to listen, and marketing companies sure as hell won't lose interest in the data mining opportunities that social networking sites give them. On the first point, I sincerely hope I'm wrong, but I doubt it. On the second, there can be no doubt I'm right.

Anyway, other than the boil, I enjoyed the episode.
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« Reply #187 on: 07-03-2010 18:18 »

I actually felt sorry for Leela when she was singing in the bathroom with her boil. I didn't really like the whole boil thing, but I loved the episode & I think Futurama is truly back now. smile
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« Reply #188 on: 07-03-2010 18:27 »

Not that it means anything, but this episode has (by far) the lowest score for an episode on IMDb now with a 6.6.
The 2nd lowest episode is A Leela of Her Own with 7.2 and the thid is That's Lobstertainment! with 7.3.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1630892/

Granted, it only has 35 votes at the minute, but this episode is clearly not going down too well.
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« Reply #189 on: 07-03-2010 18:35 »
« Last Edit on: 07-03-2010 21:44 »

Internet polls are the most accurate polls ever.

:edit: It does not require fixing, weiner. imdb polls are no worse than any other internet polls.
i_c_weiner

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« Reply #190 on: 07-03-2010 21:41 »

Internet IMDb polls are the most accurate polls ever.
Fixed.
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« Reply #191 on: 07-03-2010 21:52 »

Attack of the Killer App has reminded me of what an average Futurama episode is. That's not to say the episode itself is average (it's quite good), but that it is the standard. AOTKA is what the majority of Futurama episodes are: quick, smart, rapid-fire jokes with a fun, silly plot to guide the jokes into place. This is a good thing.

To get my negatives out of the way, I found the episode to be funniest when it wasn't too specifically making fun of Apple. I feel that if anything is to be dated, it's the jokes about Apple's advertising, general image, or customers. Sure, that stuff is lame, but I think it's so lame that it already does enough of a job making fun of itself to really require anyone else to step in. Also, Mom's plot felt very anti-climatic. I preferred how it started, with Mom's targeted advertising and suggestion that she would blackmail people with their freely given away information, rather than the unnecessary twitworm (though I did enjoy the "one-to-two million zombies" lines).

Aside from weak Apple jokes and transparent Mom plot, the show delivered. The commentary on technology, specifically the way people abuse it, was spot-on for Futurama. Tossing old technology on the Third World of the Antares System, where nobody has to really think about how it's actually taken care of, is definitely the type of humor that is funny because of how true it really is of the way we dispose of our waste. Fry and Bender's Twitcher race is easily among the best B-plots the series has ever had, which is weird, since it's sort-of the episode's A-plot (It's like the writers indulged in giving us mashed potatoes instead of meatloaf and it worked). Leela's and Susan's part added a nice touch on all the internet celebrities, specifically ones that didn't want it and how it affects their lives (like the Star Wars Kid or Epic Beard Man). It also worked as a nice show of Fry and Leela's friendship, and how far it's advanced, with Leela forgiving Fry for his fault and Fry "earning" that forgiveness by dumping himself in the goat chunks (and with the goat, Mr. Chunks).

Speaking of Susan, I've got to say that the character gets a thumbs-up from me. Like everybody else, I first thought that the Susan Boyle joke was weak and too topical. However, subsequent viewings have allowed me to see Susan more for her purpose in the episode and character than for her "weak" reference. Within the episode she's used as a test of Fry and Leela's friendship, to further exemplify Leela's crushing adolescence and how she still suffers from it, and (as previously mentioned) to make fun of the way we make celebrities off the internet. She herself is a nice individual, despite being continuously lanced from Leela and hidden from view. Says a lot about her that she would keep a positive attitude and even help Leela ("Oh, hold your nose and give it a go"), despite how she was treated. Although, it's weird that she doesn't have only one eye considering she's supposed to be an outgrowth of Leela.

All these years we've given more and more credit to the very best Futurama while sidelining the show's average output. This has possibly made us forget how funny the run-of-the-mill episodes of Futurama really are. The unsung heroes because they aren't "classics" or "best-of's". AOTKA has reminded me of how strong Futurama is, that it's less than classics are still very-high quality and worthy of much praise.
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« Reply #192 on: 07-03-2010 21:56 »
« Last Edit on: 07-03-2010 21:57 »

To get my negatives out of the way, I found the episode to be funniest when it wasn't too specifically making fun of Apple. I feel that if anything is to be dated, it's the jokes about Apple's advertising, general image, or customers.


apple commercial circa '84 (click to watch on youtube)

As long as apple exists, they will be valid targets for mockery of all sorts.
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« Reply #193 on: 07-03-2010 22:07 »

Gopher: Yes, that ad will live forever, and it's even been referenced by Futurama (Future Stock) but I don't think Apples current, sterile marketing will last quite as long. Sure, longer than Jared from Subway, but no more than ten years (if Apple doesn't live on and continue to advertise in the same way). I'd love to see us get back to this thread in ten years and see. big grin
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« Reply #194 on: 07-03-2010 22:11 »
« Last Edit on: 07-03-2010 22:13 »

jared became the subway spokesman in 1999. More than 10 years ago already.

And re: apple,I don't know what change you're talking about. Besides obvious and inevitable changes in basic style, the general approach of their ad campaigns have not changed at all since then, except that they're replaced IBM with Microsoft. If MS went out of business tomorrow, they'd start picking on linux instead. God knows what they'd do if they were ever #1; I assume their business model is designed to ensure that never actually happens, though. Their whole corporate image would fall apart if they were irrefutably in the mainstream, top-dog position.
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« Reply #195 on: 07-03-2010 22:34 »

So I was slightly annoyed by the fact that Fry, Leela, and Bender aren't turned into zombies at the end of this episode, but then I noticed that, in the pizza parlor scene, Leela says she doesn't subscribe to Fry's twits--and that, when Bender twits, no one at the table makes that ding-ding I Got Yo' Twit noise, implying no one follows Bender's twits, either. Nice internal logic, writers.

I think my biggest problem with him is that he doesn't always take the scifi setting as far as it can go. Most of his stories can be done just as well in present day. Leela of her Own was basically a baseball story except they used the word Blurnsball...there was nothing inherently futuristic or scifi-ey about the story. Fishful of Dollars is funny, but the story itself is pretty boring--no alien adventures, just a lot of sitting around on earth, reminiscing about 20th century stuffs.

I never thought about this before, but you're totally right. Maybe the reason I like Verrone's episodes so much is because I'm not the biggest sci-fi fan, generally speaking; his episodes are slightly more grounded, and there's something nice about that, if you're like me.
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« Reply #196 on: 07-03-2010 22:41 »

Gorky: Oh, I didn't even think of that. Nice one.

Gopher: Yeah, and I didn't remember Jared until he was mentioned in the episode. Maybe a bad example, but you get the point. And Apple's basic ideas haven't changed, they still go for the "we're different, we're nice to our customers, we're your pal", but they changed the details a whole lot, which ofcourse is needed since computing has changed so much since 1984.
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« Reply #197 on: 07-03-2010 22:47 »

bah. Apple is just reaping the harvest of their investment in the 80s, when they set up numerous charitable programs that made apples the de-facto computers of american public schools, at a time when they damned well knew most of the teachers wouldn't know how to turn one on, let alone teach kids anything other than how to play Oregon Trail. They opened you up, planted their seed, and now they're harvesting your money!
:hides his iphone:
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« Reply #198 on: 07-03-2010 22:57 »

Haha big grin I've got nothing against Apple per se, although I use Linux before Mac OS. I respect the company but I also know that company who claim they care more about their customers than their profits are big fat liars.
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« Reply #199 on: 07-03-2010 22:59 »

Oh, such companies exist, they just usually go bankrupt within a year or two, mainly due to their failure to exploit opportunities to sell add-ons, dongles, bug fixes, or the cure.
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