Thoughts on 6ACV03 - Attack of the Killer App - SPOILERs

[Reply #280 on:]

I'm conflicted on him.  I mean, I'd definitely give him the EPA and normalizing relations with China.  It's kind of funny, because he did some things so leftist that Barack Obama couldn't run on them nowadays.

Still, he prolonged the Vietnam war quite a bit and was generally sort of crooked even before that scandal.  And possibly completely delusional (his "enemies list," etc) and just unfit to be in office.  Still, there's probably been worse ones.

Probably?




Hells yes. I'm gonna make Dubya jokes like it's 2005!

[Reply #281 on:]

Haha, well I was definitely thinking of Bush when I said that.

[Reply #282 on:]

Nixon a bad President?  Ahhhhrrrooooooo!

Yeah, he was great on the international political scene, but couldn't turn the corner in domestic politics (greenlighting the bugging/burglary of the Watergate hotel was not the smartest thing he could have done).  And, he was probably somewhat paranoid.  What a waste.

[Reply #283 on:]

Pretty good, pretty funny. Season is heading in thr right direction. Said pretty much what I was thinking about Apple, which is odd cuz I know the writers prefer Apple...self-deprecation is always the best humor!

[Reply #284 on:]

Just because they prefer Apple doesn't mean they think it perfect and can't be made fun of.

[Reply #285 on:]

I reluctantly clicked 10/10.

This episode was so funny and brilliant.

What I didn't like, though, was the Fry/Leela dynamic. When us FryxLeela shippers said we wanted them to hook up, we didn't REALLY mean it. And the "we love each other now" dynamic showed, especially around the end.

Leela not following Fry, as AMAZINGLY minor as it is, is a step in the right direction.

I should've given this a lower score. But it was so funny...

[Reply #286 on:]

the shot at the eyePhones reception came too early.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/mobile/07/13/iphone.4.duct.tape/index.html
Imagine fry trying to ducttape his eye so his phone works lol.
Funny the iphone 4 would be so plagued though

[Reply #287 on:]

I loved this; Probably my favourite so far. I must say I wasn't hearing good things about season 6 and it was starting to bring on my nerd-anxiety, But I absolutely loved this. It was witty, it was a great parody of most Apple devotees (Mac-fags), and of Twitter/Tumblr/and the rest.
I got many laughs out of this after a shitty couple of days, as soon as I was done watching I immediately hit replay. 10/10

[Reply #288 on:]

the shot at the eyePhones reception came too early.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/mobile/07/13/iphone.4.duct.tape/index.html
Imagine fry trying to ducttape his eye so his phone works lol.
Funny the iphone 4 would be so plagued though

As I recall iPhone has been critisised for its reception before though :P But yeah, nice timing to put the episode around the release of iPhone 4 and be right about it

[Reply #289 on:]

This is my fave episode of the year. In fact, it is the only one I could give anything over a 7/10 for. Maybe it is because I myself constantly make fun of people and their high tech phones these days so the jokes and the political stance really made me laugh. I agree that the jokes about Susan were a bit too 'Family Guy' for me, but the rest worked well.

[Reply #290 on:]

the shot at the eyePhones reception came too early.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/mobile/07/13/iphone.4.duct.tape/index.html
Imagine fry trying to ducttape his eye so his phone works lol.
Funny the iphone 4 would be so plagued though

As I recall iPhone has been critisised for its reception before though :P But yeah, nice timing to put the episode around the release of iPhone 4 and be right about it

Apple has pointed out though, that other smart phones have the same problem, so the iPhone is not alone, after testing different smart phones from the likes of Nokia and Blackberry. 

[Reply #291 on:]

the shot at the eyePhones reception came too early.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/mobile/07/13/iphone.4.duct.tape/index.html
Imagine fry trying to ducttape his eye so his phone works lol.
Funny the iphone 4 would be so plagued though

As I recall iPhone has been critisised for its reception before though :P But yeah, nice timing to put the episode around the release of iPhone 4 and be right about it

Apple has pointed out though, that other smart phones have the same problem, so the iPhone is not alone, after testing different smart phones from the likes of Nokia and Blackberry. 

"They did it too!"

[Reply #292 on:]

I didn't get why Fry and Leela are all friendly and stuff and they talk like: "Thanks, you're a good friend!" Chronically, they should be LOVERS! Didn't Fry say I love you in The wild green yonder and didn't Leela answer: i love you too?
I mean, in rebirth and in-a-gadda-da-leela they were lovers too. That's what i didn't get.

[Reply #293 on:]

They were never established as lovers in Rebirth. In fact, whether or not they're together is left pretty ambiguous at the end of Rebirth. Also, in IAGDL Leela kisses Fry on the cheek and that's about it, nothing is shown to make us think they're lovers.

[Reply #294 on:]

It's not establishd, as Jezzem says. I think in-universe they're not sure themselves, they're obviously closer than before but perhaps not lovers (yet).

[Reply #295 on:]

I didn't get why Fry and Leela are all friendly and stuff and they talk like: "Thanks, you're a good friend!" Chronically, they should be LOVERS! Didn't Fry say I love you in The wild green yonder and didn't Leela answer: i love you too?
I mean, in rebirth and in-a-gadda-da-leela they were lovers too. That's what i didn't get.

Girls have told me the same thing, but I have never been lovers with anyone.  I get it.  And it hurts.

* Svip weeps.

[Reply #296 on:]

Referring to Fry and Leela as lovers gives me a certain Harlequin vibe. I've said this before and I'll say it again (because I have very few original ideas and just have to keep recycling them): I think Fry and Leela are in a state similar to how they were for most of the series; all that's changed, really, is that instead of Fry's love being unrequited, we've heard Leela say the words back. That they are not in an established, canon relationship doesn't bother me much, because the writers have given us little hints (the kiss in IAGDL, that Mile-Deep Club thing in "The Duh-Vinci Code"), and I think episodes like "The Late Philip J. Fry" will focus on the ship to an extent similar to "Rebirth"

(even if the writers choose not to settle the ship once and for all until the very last episode, which has been indicated elsewhere).

[Reply #297 on:]

Referring to Fry and Leela as lovers gives me a certain Harlequin vibe. I've said this before and I'll say it again (because I have very few original ideas and just have to keep recycling them): I think Fry and Leela are in a state similar to how they were for most of the series; all that's changed, really, is that instead of Fry's love being unrequited, we've heard Leela say the words back. That they are not in an established, canon relationship doesn't bother me much, because the writers have given us little hints (the kiss in IAGDL, that Mile-Deep Club thing in "The Duh-Vinci Code"), and I think episodes like "The Late Philip J. Fry" will focus on the ship to an extent similar to "Rebirth"

Could not have said it better.

(even if the writers choose not to settle the ship once and for all until the very last episode, which has been indicated elsewhere).

Question now that you mention it, is the Fry/Leela relationship the focus of the last episode, or is it the three-styles-of-animation episode as the finale? I've heard some sources cite that the last is the latter, others saying that it depends on production as they are both in early stages.

[Reply #298 on:]

I posted that 15 second segment about "all the things you can do with the eyePhone", and got a ton of people posting who'd never seen Futurama & said they wanted to watch it now, based on that segment.

[Reply #299 on:]

To all the Fry/Leela shippers: their relationship is analogous to "it's complicated" on Facebook.

[Reply #300 on:]

I gave it a 7/10.

The main thing that ruined it for me was the Susan Boil joke. It wasn't funny at all for me, just downright lame. Other than that, I thought that it was a pretty good episode. I enjoyed Flexo's cameo and the Eyephone commercial.

[Reply #301 on:]

eww, ya I forgot about susan boil on Leela's butt, totally nasty. Here is another reason why the futurama characters were acting out of character. Why the hell would Fry do that, if he loved Leela? What a smelly armpit.

[Reply #302 on:]

eww, ya I forgot about susan boil on Leela's butt, totally nasty. Here is another reason why the futurama characters were acting out of character. Why the hell would Fry do that, if he loved Leela? What a smelly armpit.

A smiley says more than a thousand words.

[Reply #303 on:]

So on the commentary, MG seems to be joking about not wanting puke and butt boils in the show. He did sound serious, but only very slightly. He was talking about it lightly.

[Reply #304 on:]

What are we supposed to take from that? That MG acknowledges that this episode had some really bad ideas?

[Reply #305 on:]

Someone posted in this thread somewhere about the commentary, and they made it sound like Matt really hated the episode, but he seems to like it.

[Reply #306 on:]

Ah. One would think that if he did in fact really hate it, he would have done something about it before it ran.

[Reply #307 on:]

Dunno if he was joking, but he says the only thing he did not want in the new season of Futurama is puke. He then said he left the office, came back and saw this. (He says it while Mr. Chunks is vomiting on screen.)

He was probably joking, as later on he says "And no butt boils."

[Reply #308 on:]

Ah. One would think that if he did in fact really hate it, he would have done something about it before it ran.

Well he aparently hates The Simpsons episode A Star Is Burns and that episode still went on air.

Matt Groening, creator of The Simpsons, reacted negatively when he heard about this episode, feeling that it was just an advertisement for The Critic, and that people would incorrectly associate the show with him. When he was unsuccessful in getting the program pulled, he had his name removed from the credits and went public with his concerns, openly criticizing James L. Brooks and saying the episode "violates the Simpsons' universe." In response, Brooks said "I am furious with Matt, [...] he's allowed his opinion, but airing this publicly in the press is going too far. [...] his behavior right now is rotten."

[Reply #309 on:]

I dunno, I found this to be the worst episode of both new seasons for me.

It got a few reluctant chuckles from me in a disgusted sort of way, but overall I didn't find more than a couple things particularly enjoyable about this episode.  The whole iPhone/Twitter/Youtube premise puts the entire episode as a satire of today, which irritates me for the same reason other modern references have bugged me.

On the other hand since it was done kind of "all in" it at least felt like a cohesive plot, and of the few things I enjoyed, I loved that it was all a Mom plot, that felt perfect for her.

The Susan Boil bit I could have done without, the two headed vomiting animal was pretty low brow, though again - disgusted reluctant laughs, so I suppose it still appealed to me :P  

Things I did like were the installation of the EyePhone and the Mom plot.

[Reply #310 on:]

I want to know how the crew seem to already know Mr. Chunks, Amy knows his name as soon as she walks over.

[Reply #311 on:]

I know a lot of fans think of this as a "reset button" episode, but after watching it again for some reason...it doesn't quite seem like it. I mean, the ending sequence isn't completely ship overload, but it is pretty sweet. And unlike what people say....it doesn't really show to me that Fry and Leela are just friends.

[Reply #312 on:]

I agree pumkinpie.  It simply shows to me two people who have been in close proximity for over a decade.  The bond they have is more than friends, more like a married couple except that they aren't exclusive with each other.  People seem to expect them to behave like they are in the infatuation stage of a new relationship, but that's just unrealistic considering how long they've known each other.  Even if they declared themselves "In an exclusive relationship" on Facebag tomorrow, not much would change because they just have so much history.

[Reply #313 on:]

Did 8/10 really get the most votes?

[Reply #314 on:]

A lot of people tend to vote based off their initial feeling.

I thought Yo Leela Leela was about a 7/10 when I first saw it. I really wish all the review polls gave the "change vote if desired" option.

[Reply #315 on:]

I know it's all a matter of opinion, but still don't get the 8/10 and 9/10 votes for an episode that, arguably, has the worst ending this side of The Butterjunk Effect, not to mention the first 20 minutes - which to me are the series' lowest point.

Maybe it is about initial feeling, but I'm not sure of that either; my initial feeling was that AotKA is easily the show's worst episode, and that's not likely to change. I wonder if others have changed their opinion of it.

[Reply #316 on:]

I also thought it was the show's worst episode upon initial viewing, and still hold that opinion.

[Reply #317 on:]

I actually think AOTKA has a decent ending. I reserve the ranking of "bad ending" to cop-outs like those in "Ghost in the Machines" and "Neutopia".

[Reply #318 on:]

I don't think this episode, (besides Susan Boil), was as bad as most people give it credit for. It was nothing great, but there were a few laughs hidden in there.

[Reply #319 on:]

I don't think this episode, (besides Susan Boil), was as bad as most people give it credit for. It was nothing great, but there were a few laughs hidden in there.

Yeah. Look past Susan Boil and the crappy ending, this episode does have its good moments.