Thoughts on 6ACV03 - Attack of the Killer App - SPOILERs

[Reply #120 on:]

This episode was... god, it was just awful. Just forced pop-culture references (she's a BOIL! Her name is SUSAN! She SINGS! She's SUSAN BOIL! Do YOU GET IT YET? LET'S RUB IT IN MORE! Oh, and TWITCHER! It's just like TWITTER! HA! Look at how RELEVANT we're being!) and gross-out humor.

This is the crap I don't watch Family Guy for. I don't need it infecting a good show.

Couple more like this and I'm done with the series.

Kryten?  I thought you died a few years ago.

Granted, the "humor" has gone a tad cruder but there are things that were funny, like Leela saying it was safe to fly and use her eyePhone because it was a hands-free model, theplow into the PE building and get thrown through the windscreen.

To all the nay-sayers and people trashing the new episodes - for Satan's sake, the writers had a seven year layoff except for making the 4 direct-to-DVDs, 3 of which were absolutely unwatchable.  I'm just saying, give them a little time to get the "feel" back - we all may be surprised that some of the newer episodes will improve and actually grow on most fans.

And Kryten - maybe, just maybe we'll get a little "Amy Porn" from the episode where she contracts "Metal Fever".

[Reply #121 on:]

I'm extremely surprised at the rating it's got on CGEOF. An epsiode like this was a million times better than some of the lower rated episodes. I guess it's more power to me...with that said, I think this was easilly the best episode of the 2nd run. I also like how the ending was alluded to as well.

[Reply #122 on:]

I liked it a lot! 8/10

One of the better topical episodes, and a ton of bizarre gags.

Binder approves.

[Reply #123 on:]

Who the fuck is susan boyle? I haven't seen the episodes, but this season really sounds like pop culture crap, I had hoped they learned their lesson from the crappy movies, but it sounds like they didn't

[Reply #124 on:]

Soryn brings up a very good point:  the satire is sharpest when it either (1) attacks a phenomenon specifically from the futuristic world and forces the viewer to draw parallels with the present (e.g., robot-human relations) or (2) takes present phenomena and puts a futuristic spin on it (e.g., aliens watching TV from 1000 light-years away).  This week's episode did neither; instead, it directly mapped a present phenomenon into the future.

[Reply #125 on:]

I'm sorry to say this, but I disliked this episode. It was quite painful for me to watch.
I enjoyed the last two episodes, but this one was just...I don't know. I actually did not laugh one bit while watching this. Not even a smile. That whole Susan Boyle thing really ruined it for me.
Perhaps I will watch it again and maybe I'll like it a little bit better.
I still have faith in the future episodes though.
I'm not saying that "OMG! Futurama is crap now!!" because I honestly enjoyed the first 2 episodes (especially Rebirth)...but this third episode just didn't do it for me. I hated all the pop culture jokes. I know in the passed episodes there were some pop culture jokes in Futurama, but they were delivered in a different kind of way.
So ya, I'm going to say this..I hated this episode.

[Reply #126 on:]

It had some high points for me which were mostly random gags: the eyephone ad, Leela's distracted driving and Calculon's scene (I liked the original with the geeky joke about having a dimension cut off, not the Bender mash-up).  I know they were burning to comment on the social media explosion but maybe it would have been better if they had worked that into a few episodes with different topics.

The susan the boil nonsense irked me on a couple of levels.  First, I don't know if it was necessary to compare that poor wretch to an ass pimple.  I would be as disgusted as the next guy about the publicity phenomenon that surrounded Susan Boyle, that is, if I had paid much attention to it.  I managed to tune most of it out back when it was relevant.  Susan Boyle may have been a media whore and maybe all media whores deserve to be taken down a notch, but an out of tune ass pimple comparison was a bit harsh.

What really got under my skin about it was what it does to the concept of Leela.  I like Groening's original plan: sexy, capable and tough with an obvious alien twist.  A hairy boil that she can't get rid of is well, kinda gross.  One that talks and has had a long term relationship with Leela - now that it really starting to undermine the attractiveness of our heroine.  To quote Bender, "You, sir, have defaced a national treasure!"  Maybe I can take up a collection to send Leela to a quality plastic surgeon so she can be rid of susan.    Maybe Dr. Adlai could take care of her for old time's sake.

[Reply #127 on:]

This episode was... god, it was just awful. Just forced pop-culture references (she's a BOIL! Her name is SUSAN! She SINGS! She's SUSAN BOIL! Do YOU GET IT YET? LET'S RUB IT IN MORE! Oh, and TWITCHER! It's just like TWITTER! HA! Look at how RELEVANT we're being!) and gross-out humor.

This is the crap I don't watch Family Guy for. I don't need it infecting a good show.

Couple more like this and I'm done with the series.

Kryten?  I thought you died a few years ago.

Who says I DIDN'T? ooooOOOOOOooooo....

Granted, the "humor" has gone a tad cruder but there are things that were funny, like Leela saying it was safe to fly and use her eyePhone because it was a hands-free model, theplow into the PE building and get thrown through the windscreen.

To all the nay-sayers and people trashing the new episodes - for Satan's sake, the writers had a seven year layoff except for making the 4 direct-to-DVDs, 3 of which were absolutely unwatchable.  I'm just saying, give them a little time to get the "feel" back - we all may be surprised that some of the newer episodes will improve and actually grow on most fans.

And Kryten - maybe, just maybe we'll get a little "Amy Porn" from the episode where she contracts "Metal Fever".

One thing I will grant the new episodes... more Amy fanservice makes me happy.

Books, Susan Boyle is a dumpy old Scottish woman with an amazingly beautiful voice. She became a phenom after appearing on some British talent show and went on to have a meteoric rise, a tragic meltdown, and a descent back into obscurity, like every other reality show star.

[Reply #128 on:]

It's kinda scary how some people are getting UPSET over negative reviews, even you weiner. It's almost as if you feel you need to rate the episode higher just to counter the people who thought it sucked balls. Why? I doubt you really think this episode was a 5/5, weiner, in the context of all the Futurama episodes, you thought this one was perfection? Come on.

On CGEF, I will be giving the episode a 5/5 because I do need to counter those who rated it poorly. This episode wasn't a 1/5, it was between 3-and-4/5. Some people are rashly giving it the 1/5 as a gut reaction to new Futurama being "horrible". If you asked me why I'm voting 5/5 despite it not being perfection, you should be asking those people why they're voting 1/5 despite it not being complete shit.

Ofcourse some jokes will be less apparant in the future, but the same thing goes with old eps like the global warming ones and I Dated a Robot.

Wait, wait, wait! Are you alleging that global warming was merely a topical issue of yester-year? And it's not a prevalent issue anymore!?

I agree that some of the humour in "I Dated a Robot" has become dated, but not "Crimes of the Hot". I can't imagine that the issue of global warming will ever go away -- unless we somehow (hopefully) fix the problem -- so the jokes about pollution-emitting robots being akin to SUVs, and temporarily "fixing" a problem without actually solving it in the long-term, are relevant and timeless.

Consider the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico. If and when they finally stop the oil leak, I predict they'll claim "We fixed the problem. It'll never happen again. So let's continue drilling in our backyards as if it never happened, because we NEED OIL!" And that idiotic, short-sighted attitude will prevent proper safety regulations from being passed.

That's why I think the humour in that episode (as well as "A Big Piece of Garbage") are timeless, because people, governments, corporations, and industries are constantly making them same dumb mistakes, because they always assume they're smarter than the people that preceded them (even when they're the same people).

In regards to this new episode, I don't think that the iPhone and Twitter jokes are timeless; they're topical, and they won't be as funny five or ten years from now. That's why I'd prefer that Futurama stayed away from topical-issue-based episodes. Let South Park and The Daily Show and The Colbert Report poke fun at silly topical issues. I'd prefer that Futurama remain timeless, by having the crazy cast do crazy things in their crazy world. That's what the humour in Futurama is supposed to be about, IMO.

You missed the social commentary of the episode. It's not about the eyePhone or Twitcher specifically; those are merely the plot devices. The episode is about technology and how people today will run out and sacrifice others to get the latest craze. It goes to a reoccurring theme of Futurama: the 31st century is just like the 21st century. It's not the fact that it's LOLZ AN EYEPHONE LYKE AN IPHONE etc., it's the fact that people still make themselves a slave to having the newest technology. The theme extends beyond iPhones; think about lines for Playstations or new anythings. Or think about Christmas-shopping lines the day after Thanksgiving. This episode's not just about technology but consumerism as a whole. Brand loyality, being cool, buying it now, etc.

And the hilarious thing about Mom's B-plot was that the Twit Worm was completely unnecessary; look at the beginning of the episode how everybody flocked to the Mom Store and lined up across the city.

And then you have the side of today's society becoming farther detached to each other with Twitcher. This happens whenever there's new technology; telephones allowed people to not have to meet up face-to-face, computers even more so. With every advent of technology people are becoming more dissociated with those immediately around them. For example, as I write this post to people I've never met from various countries around the world (and possibly aliens from extraterrestrial worlds who are picking this up 1000 years later), I'm not engaging with my family.

It also highlights how people's personal information is becoming more and more readily available on the Internet. Look at PEEL: people post pictures of themselves and talk about their own lives to complete strangers. Look at anybody's Facebook, Myspace, Twitter, Wikipedia, etc. accounts; think about how much information people you've never met can find out about you in an instant.

I feel like, sure, the plot devices of the eyePhone and Twitcher may become dated, but the episode's themes won't. And, yes, I feel like this could be the beginning of an academic paper on the themes of Futurama.

[Reply #129 on:]

It was a good episode, I like the first. =D
Fry is very stupid, I like that  

[Reply #130 on:]

Welcome back, Kryten and FemJesse!  I wasn't actually sure whether FemJesse was a real person, or just a legend...

Oh yes, the episode?  Average.  Laughed a lot, left no deep impression, other than a little confused about the Fry/Leela relationship.  Not surprised by the complaints.  They've got to place some filler between the really great episodes.  By episode six there should be at least one that reaches expectations.  The original series varied widely in quality as well.  I mean out of the original 72 there were some stinkers that didn't exactly inspire the fanbase. I'll definitely keep watching...looking forward (pun intended) to the forward time-traveling one...

[Reply #131 on:]

Absolute crap. Hated it. The goat thing wasn't funny in the least, just grossness for grossness sake. The Boil thing was possibly the stupidest thing I've ever seen in a Futurama.

Agreed with pretty much everything this guy said. Didn't bother reading the rest of the thread. AOTKA is this season's lowest point, I'm hoping.

[Reply #132 on:]

No one on this Futurama board likes Futurama anymore -.-

[Reply #133 on:]

It's kinda scary how some people are getting UPSET over negative reviews, even you weiner. It's almost as if you feel you need to rate the episode higher just to counter the people who thought it sucked balls. Why? I doubt you really think this episode was a 5/5, weiner, in the context of all the Futurama episodes, you thought this one was perfection? Come on.

On CGEF, I will be giving the episode a 5/5 because I do need to counter those who rated it poorly. This episode wasn't a 1/5, it was between 3-and-4/5. Some people are rashly giving it the 1/5 as a gut reaction to new Futurama being "horrible". If you asked me why I'm voting 5/5 despite it not being perfection, you should be asking those people why they're voting 1/5 despite it not being complete shit.

But if they think it's complete shit, that's their opinion. You don't think it's 5/5, that's not your opinion. It's different.
I gave it a 1/5 because I genuinely think that it's the worst episode of Futurama ever and I vote for the episodes by Futurama's standards. By general TV standards, I'd say it's a 3/5 but given that people only rate Futurama episodes on that site, it makes sense to me, to rate them on a scale from the worst Futurama to the best Futurama.

[Reply #134 on:]

FemJesse?! Wow, I haven't seen you in ages.

Back on topic, I rather liked this episode compared to the first two. This one to me felt a lot more like a true episode. The first two were too random even for me on the first view and I didn't want to see them again (though I DID catch the tale end on IAGDL and wasn't impressed). This one had me chuckle if only once. I adored Bender's little joust with another robot whilst waiting in line for the eyePhone. It was nice to see a Flexo cameo as well.

The lowest and worst part of the episode was the random inclusion of the Boyle/boil joke. It was easily the most disturbing and dumbest thing I've seen in the series. The goat was pretty lame as well, but I got a kick out of Bender throwing it in it's own shit/vomit when it died coupled with his witty remark. I'm not going to say it was the best episode ever, nor will I say it's the worst.

[Reply #135 on:]

I think the lowest/worst part of Futurama ever is the "fun on the bun" phrase

[Reply #136 on:]

IT'S GOING TO BE FUN ON THE BUN!

[Reply #137 on:]

JHIUGSHERIUBGLENRIUGNE$WG

[Reply #138 on:]

Fun on A bun.

GET IT RIGHT!

You can't hate it if you don't even know it enough to get it right.

[Reply #139 on:]

Ofcourse some jokes will be less apparant in the future, but the same thing goes with old eps like the global warming ones and I Dated a Robot.

Wait, wait, wait! Are you alleging that global warming was merely a topical issue of yester-year? And it's not a prevalent issue anymore!?

I agree that some of the humour in "I Dated a Robot" has become dated, but not "Crimes of the Hot". I can't imagine that the issue of global warming will ever go away -- unless we somehow (hopefully) fix the problem -- so the jokes about pollution-emitting robots being akin to SUVs, and temporarily "fixing" a problem without actually solving it in the long-term, are relevant and timeless.

Consider the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico. If and when they finally stop the oil leak, I predict they'll claim "We fixed the problem. It'll never happen again. So let's continue drilling in our backyards as if it never happened, because we NEED OIL!" And that idiotic, short-sighted attitude will prevent proper safety regulations from being passed.

That's why I think the humour in that episode (as well as "A Big Piece of Garbage") are timeless, because people, governments, corporations, and industries are constantly making them same dumb mistakes, because they always assume they're smarter than the people that preceded them (even when they're the same people).

In regards to this new episode, I don't think that the iPhone and Twitter jokes are timeless; they're topical, and they won't be as funny five or ten years from now. That's why I'd prefer that Futurama stayed away from topical-issue-based episodes. Let South Park and The Daily Show and The Colbert Report poke fun at silly topical issues. I'd prefer that Futurama remain timeless, by having the crazy cast do crazy things in their crazy world. That's what the humour in Futurama is supposed to be about, IMO.

I'm definitely not saying global warming won't effect us in the future. But I still claim it is a trend that people care about it, and in a few years there will be something else that is terrible about the world. Global warming has been known since the 1970's, and people didn't care (much) until the 2000's. Soon people will get bored and stop care yet again. That's the way the world works, and that's why Crimes of the Hot will be outdated.

HOWEVER - there will come a time when the problem reappears, maybe even when a sudden catastrophe comes such as in A Big Piece of Garbage, and people will start caring again. In that way it will be timeless in a way Killer App and I Dated a Robot won't, but it still will be dated.

[Reply #140 on:]

Eh, Killer App won't be too dated. As I explained before, it's not the plot device, it's the theme. Like I Dated a Robot with Napster; back then it was Napster, but today it's Pirate Bay and torrents. There's always going to be something.

Fun on A bun.

GET IT RIGHT!

You can't hate it if you don't even know it enough to get it right.

He actually says both...

...


... I'm just gonna ooze back under the door now...

[Reply #141 on:]

About the ending: I really loved it. Best ending of the new season, and best of most episodes (not including Wild Green Yonder, Devil's Hands and others). It had an emotional core with Fry and Leela, still including many gags without destroying the moment - and then comes the zombies, slowly in the background... the whole point of Mom's app was clearly to force people to buy her stuff, and the obvious joke that they would have any way. A commentary both on the must-have consumer society, as well as a joke on Mom's part. I think the reason she made the app wasn't to get more money (she established in Wild Green Yonder that she had all the money in the world), but because she wanted to feel the rush of power, just like in Mother's Day.

[Reply #142 on:]

Eh, Killer App won't be too dated. As I explained before, it's not the plot device, it's the theme. Like I Dated a Robot with Napster; back then it was Napster, but today it's Pirate Bay and torrents. There's always going to be something.

I totally agree. The episode in itself will not be dated until the year 3010, same goes with I Dated a Robot. But many jokes will be - people of today don't recognise the Napster jokes even though they'd still get the episode. Even if no-one remembers anything about iPhones in five years they will still get the episode, because there will be some new technological gizmo. Ofcourse many jokes on the marketing and the name will fall flat, but hell, that's life.

[Reply #143 on:]

great episode. the boil was digusting, but she is a mutant. the iphone jokes where hilarious.

btw @ all the shippers.

fry and leela are not a couple. with the whole robot thingy, they agreed to going back to being friends (yes, real leela and robot fry, but it doesnt seem to make a difference). she even called him a good friend and not a good boyfriend after he took a dive in the pool.
this also may explain the last episode a little bit better.

just suck it and enjoy the episodes.

[Reply #144 on:]

fry and leela are not a couple. with the whole robot thingy, they agreed to going back to being friends (yes, real leela and robot fry, but it doesnt seem to make a difference). she even called him a good friend and not a good boyfriend after he took a dive in the pool.
this also may explain the last episode a little bit better.

I think you misunderstood Rebirth. Robot Fry went off with Robot Leela, and regular Fry and Leela became friends. Not regular Leela and Robot Fry.

[Reply #145 on:]

fry and leela are not a couple. with the whole robot thingy, they agreed to going back to being friends (yes, real leela and robot fry, but it doesnt seem to make a difference). she even called him a good friend and not a good boyfriend after he took a dive in the pool.
this also may explain the last episode a little bit better.

I think you misunderstood Rebirth. Robot Fry went off with Robot Leela, and regular Fry and Leela became friends. Not regular Leela and Robot Fry.

was it regular leela or robot leela, that was with robot fry at the club? may have lost track

[Reply #146 on:]

was it regular leela or robot leela, that was with robot fry at the club? may have lost track

Oh, I'm sorry, I thought you meant the ending. The club is Robot Fry and real Leela, you're right, I just misunderstood.

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by the way, it may come a little bit late, but many people didnt seem to get, that v-giny was actually a reference to the star trek movie (the old one with voyager 6 and kirk). so they dismissed it as a cheap sex joke. personally, i thought it was hilarious and still a verry funny episode.

[Reply #148 on:]

Robot Leela.

Aki - no, because at the club she's talking about how she's confused not knowing if it's her feelings or real Leela's feelings. Hence she says until she figures it out they can just be friends.

I hope I didn't just fail there.

Also: there is other episode threads for the other eps...

[Reply #149 on:]

by the way, it may come a little bit late, but many people didnt seem to get, that v-giny was actually a reference to the star trek movie (the old one with voyager 6 and kirk). so they dismissed it as a cheap sex joke. personally, i thought it was hilarious and still a verry funny episode.

Yeah, someone mentioned that, although I didn't get it until it was explained :P Even if it wasn't a reference it would still be funny do, but I agree with someone pointing out the Professor should have smelled it instead of seen it - "I don't like the smell of this V-GINY".

Yeah, crude, but that's just fun sometimes. Always have been, always will. Trick is to keep it somewhat restrained.

[Reply #150 on:]

Aki - no, because at the club she's talking about how she's confused not knowing if it's her feelings or real Leela's feelings. Hence she says until she figures it out they can just be friends.

Gah, I meant Robot Fry and Robot Leela. 2:30 AM, maybe I should just go to bed instead of trying to make sense...

[Reply #151 on:]

I'm laughing so hard at this thread.

[Reply #152 on:]

The only thing I'm laughing at is this episode.
It was decent, guys. It wasn't all about the eyePhone, it just set up the premise for its technological plotline about the scourge of the Internet and what effect viral videos can have on peoples lives.
I thought the fact that nobody remembered Leela anymore, they'd moved onto the next phenomenon was clever, alludes to the saying '15 minutes of fame.'

[Reply #153 on:]

I enjoyed it.  I especially liked the "Third World" part of the opening act.  That isn't far off from what really happens to a lot of "recycled" e-waste these days.

As someone who doesn't use Twitter, I enjoyed seeing it bashed about.

I'm in the camp with some other people here who didn't know who Susan Boyle was.  Now that I know, the joke seems quite a bit more lame.  During the episode though, It didn't seem out of the ordinary that Leela would have some freaky physical manifestations considering she is a mutant.  Embarrassing web video behavior is rich territory, I feel the writers could have come up with something better there.

The episode didn't have any depth, but it made me chuckle.  Good enough!   

[Reply #154 on:]

by the way, it may come a little bit late, but many people didnt seem to get, that v-giny was actually a reference to the star trek movie (the old one with voyager 6 and kirk). so they dismissed it as a cheap sex joke. personally, i thought it was hilarious and still a verry funny episode.

I got it and I still think it was a cheap sex joke.

[Reply #155 on:]

I'm hoping that Killer App will be the worst Futurama episode this season.

[Reply #156 on:]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure you already said that.

You know what I hate most about this thread? When somebody comes in and says they absolutely hated the episode, and you morons feel like you need to DEFEND it to them. Don't fucking defend it, you idiots. If you liked it, then don't defend it.

People are allowed to dislike stuff. It wasn't their cup of tea. Maybe they absolutely despised it. Who cares? Does it affect how much you liked it? No. So don't even respond to them.

It's kinda scary how some people are getting UPSET over negative reviews, even you weiner. It's almost as if you feel you need to rate the episode higher just to counter the people who thought it sucked balls. Why? I doubt you really think this episode was a 5/5, weiner, in the context of all the Futurama episodes, you thought this one was perfection? Come on.

To be honest, I can see how people could love this episode and how people could hate it. Don't argue with people about which side they chose to take. It's just taste. You can't argue with taste, don't try. Even if you think their reasons for disliking it are moronic and stupid and make no sense whatsoever.

Just make your own review and leave it.

I'm not offended by the fact that people don't LIKE an episode but I do feel somewhat offended when people make ridiculous claims like "Futurama has turned shit!" or "Futurama has turned into Family Guy!" just because they didn't like an episode.

[Reply #157 on:]

by the way, it may come a little bit late, but many people didnt seem to get, that v-giny was actually a reference to the star trek movie (the old one with voyager 6 and kirk). so they dismissed it as a cheap sex joke. personally, i thought it was hilarious and still a verry funny episode.

I got it and I still think it was a cheap sex joke.

Agreed. My thought process was 1. It's a V'Ger reference 2. It's a cheap sex gag 3. #2 cancels out any inherent funniness of #1 4. siggggh

[Reply #158 on:]

The first half of episode 3 wasn't bad, but it was just idiotic after the whole part of Leela crashing the ship because of stupidity. That's Fry's job, not Leela's. I miss the old-school witty jokes, not these Family Guy-style jokes.

I can honestly say I've given up on Futurama, which 3 weeks ago, would have been hard for me to say, but season 6 has just ruined it for me.

[Reply #159 on:]

Oh no! Now the 23 remaining episodes will suck!