Stargate

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Uh, if you're going to make a space station and put in hatches built to prevent explosive decompression, shouldn't you put the hinges on them in such a way that they slam SHUT in case of decompression?

You're hostages, we're ... we're your captors! We're heavily armed! There's rules, there's a whole school of etiquette to this! ... Don't eyeball me.

[Reply #641 on:]

I neeed SG1 Season 10 to be released alredy. And Atlantis Season 3. Has anybody got a spare Asgard time-dilation device?

[Reply #642 on:]

SG1: "I am leaving.  You are about to explode."  'Nough said.  I  badass Teal'c.

Atlantis: I know this serves to clear the way for KayleeJewel Staite to join the team, but still, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! 

[Reply #643 on:]

i'm confused, how many stargates are there? god these franchises move so fast.

[Reply #644 on:]

Two.  SG1 is finishing its run with its 10th season, and Atlantis is finishing its 3rd season.

[Reply #645 on:]

They're both finished, just not in Americaland.
Reading this thread is like looking into the not-so distant past! 

Michael Shanks didn't even like that episode in the museum, said in his blog.

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Originally posted by ~FazeShift~:
Michael Shanks didn't even like that episode in the museum, said in his blog.

That's a shame. I laughed at that episode more than I have at any in the past 4 seasons.

It's no Window of Opportunity, but it's still great.

[Reply #647 on:]

It's really not, it was the setting that got to me, and the props, you could really tell it was just some random building they filmed in.
And it was just a standard variation on the "arrive, something goes wrong, leave" formula, no imagination in it. 

[Reply #648 on:]

Come on, Faze, after ten seasons they are were entitled to make less-than-great episodes, don't you agree?

EDIT: Are? The show's over. I blame Nix and Nasty for this one!

[Reply #649 on:]

Re: Teal'c being a badass, it seems so forced in most of Season 9. Not that some of it isn't a hell of a lot of fun. Alternate Tealc's manhandling of Mitchell in Ripple Effect was piss-funny.

Of course, Teal'c is at his most badass ev0r in the Season 7 (I think) episode where he moves off-base.... and proceeds to have a fight outside his apartment block with a bunch of dickheads. Following this encounter, he's told to keep a low profile, and almost lets a purse snatcher get away - almost. When he picks up a rock and hurls it at the guy's head from fifty yards away, I have to rewind it and watch it two or three times over. I love my DVD player. I love DVDs. However did I watch anything properly without them?

[Reply #650 on:]

 

Originally posted by totalnerduk:
Re: Teal'c being a badass

One sentence for you (admittedly season 10):

I am leaving.  You are about to explode.

[Reply #651 on:]

Well, SHEE-ut, that was one hell of an episode.

There had better be one at least one Ba'al left is all I'm saying.  One left Ba'al?  OK, I feel ashamed of myself for that one.

[Reply #652 on:]

Oh geez. It's Stargate Trek. They've got Asgard phasors and REPLICATORS (not the robotic spider robot kind, either)

On the plus side, they showed a commercial for Amanda Tapping on Atlantis.

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Well ... a three-year contract is a three-year contract. 

[Reply #654 on:]

 

Originally posted by Gocad:


Pure evil.

DOOOOOOOOOOOM! 

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Originally posted by Nixorbo:
Oh geez. It's Stargate Trek. They've got Asgard phasors and REPLICATORS (not the robotic spider robot kind, either)

On the plus side, they showed a commercial for Amanda Tapping on Atlantis.

Talk about an anti-climatic episode. I really didn't like it that much at all. I guess they're saving their really good stuff for the direct-to-DVD movies. Or at least I hope they are...

Now one thing I didn't understand...

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What happened to the present-day Teal'c at the end of the episode? How come there was only the older one from the time-dilation field? Or did I miss something?

[Reply #656 on:]

Nasty, I could have told you this months ago. 

Then again, this may have been due to the upcoming DTV films, so that they couldn't do a real big bang finale...although they did blow up a lot in it. 

 

Originally posted by Nasty Pasty:

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What happened to the present-day Teal'c at the end of the episode? How come there was only the older one from the time-dilation field? Or did I miss something?

Very brief and not very detailed summary of what you apparently missed:

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One had to step outside the field for Carter's plan to work. Since he's a Jaffa, Teal'c hadn't age as fast as the others, so it was his call to do it.

[Reply #657 on:]

Ah, I get it. Sucks to be him though... 

Also, did that whole episode seem like a ripoff of The Star Trek TNG Finale "All Good Things"?

[Reply #658 on:]

Not really, no.

Now if there had been an ascended being named U who was taking Mitchell through three distinct times in his past, present and future ...

[Reply #659 on:]

They already have a dude with that name, and he's none too happy:

[Reply #660 on:]

Dr. Jackson: "Don't. Every joke, every pun, done to death, seriously."

Listen to Dr. Jackson, Faze! 

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<a href="http://www.gateworld.net/news/2007/07/complete_isg-1i_dvd_series_comin.shtml">I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if my checking account cried out in terror and was suddenly silenced.</a>

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Re: finale of SG1, I agree with Gocad (I think it was Gocad, too lazy to go back and check), it was a great episode but a lousy finale. In the final analysis, the only net impact of the episode was the extinction of the Asgard and the aging of Teal'c - which I see as the producers cleverly getting around the Brent Spiner/Leonard Nimoy issue (human actor, slow- or non-aging character). I would've liked some conclusion, though, and felt the final reset just negated any conclusion the story might otherwise have provided for the characters.

Since the whole thing was going to un-happen anyway, I wish they'd made up some excuse to get O'Neal or Hammond in there; not that I have anything against Landry, Vala, or Mitchell, but it would've been nice to have the original team together for the ending.

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[Reply #663 on:]

Yeah, good point about O'Neill's absence. It was kinda odd that the Asgard didn't invite him to their final appearance.

But had he been aboard he would have probably died of old age like Landry, after all, O'Neill isn't really much younger than Landry. 

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The difference, unlike Landry, if O'Neill had died, I might've been moved, particularly with Carter mourning him... by that point in the episode, it was already obvious they were going to hit the reset button to get out of it anyway, so Landry's death just didn't have any impact for me at all.

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[Reply #665 on:]

Insert for The Ark of Truth in the Season 10 boxset

[Reply #666 on:]

I finally got around to watching the final episode of SG-1 yesterday.  The thought in my mind at the close of the show was "weaksauce".  That was a finale???  No, it was a decent episode, but not a finale worthy one by a long shot.  Nix's link above pretty much explains why.  They should have called it something else like "super last episode before we switch to DVD releases!"

The most enduring disappointment of the "finale" was the way too quick send off the Asgard were given.  They deserved more than Thor running off the ship and their planet exploding.  Way to tie up that plot line in record time, SG-1 writers!

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Apophis is headed for Earth...

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Probably been said, but re-watched "The Warrior" today, which has one of my favorite scenes from the entire series, Jack and Carter demonstrating the difference between human and goauld weapons. The whole scene plays really well, building up to Jack's line,

"This [staff weapon] is a weapon of terror; it is designed to intimidate. This [MP5] is a weapon of war; it is designed to kill."

Great scene; a shame the rest of the episode was kindof meh; Teal'c and Bra'tac were suckered in way too easily. Too many of their own deeply held beliefs, the very beliefs which had led them to acheive their own freedom, were cast aside immediately in the face of a man who had demonstrated absolutely no qualities except courage, charisma, arrogance, and a complete disregard for the lives of individual Jaffa.

[Reply #669 on:]

 

Originally posted by Gopher:
"This [staff weapon] is a weapon of terror; it is designed to intimidate. This [MP5] is a weapon of war; it is designed to kill."

It was a P90, I believe.

MP5:


P90:

[Reply #670 on:]

You are correct, it was indeed. The visual aids probably weren't required, I would've caught the mistake myself if I'd proofread.

[Reply #671 on:]

I believe that the MP5 is used in many earlier episodes. The P90 just got thrown in there one day, and started cropping up on a regular basis after that.

[Reply #672 on:]

Interestingly, P90s are used by US Secret Service (as well as some police and SWAT units), though not by Air Force personnel.

[Reply #673 on:]

Not being much of an expert on military weapons, I didn't realise that the P90 on the show was a real weapon, I though it was just a stylized version of one; I knew the MP5 was realistically portrayed, and just had the impression that they'd gradually transitioned from realistic into more futuristic/science-fictiony gear over the run of the series. I'm still certain that's why the transition was made, as the P90 just looks the part. Is the P90 really a serious weapon for the context, though? The quick info I googled made it seem as though it's primarily intended for small-scale personal defense at mid to short range, not the all-purpose field weapon it's portrayed as on SG.

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Yeah, that's about right. Although other heavier weapons are occassionally deployed in Stargate - the P90 is primarily used because the SG teams are essentially light recon units, with a greater emphasis placed on mobility and concealment than assault capabilities. In that regard, the use of the P90 is probably realistic - it's just that SG1 continually finds itself in unexpectedly dire circumstances where an M4 or a SAW would be more welcome.

On the other hand, with a firing rate of 900 5.7 x 28mm rounds per minute, the P90 isn't something to be trifled with. It does have good stopping power.

[Reply #675 on:]

I'm still stuck most of the way through season 7. For some reason, there's a LONNNNNG delay on the last disc in the set. Curse you, Netflix!

[Reply #676 on:]

Hey Gopher,

Check out the last external link in the P90 Wikipedia article

In a tangentically-related note, I feel that the war against the Goa'uld would have been better waged had each SG team had at least one tactical sniper.

@Kryten: I'm still in season 5, so you'd better be done by the time I get to season 7 (after Robin Hood, Heroes, and Dr. Who, of course).

[Reply #677 on:]

nix: lol. Once again proving that wikipedia is the fount of all knowledge... or something like that..

And on the tangent, I'd amend to say all tactical teams; I believe some teams are rather specialized. Of course, sound tactics would also ruin many good episodes of the show, as is inevitably the case with all action tv.

Final extreme tangent: rewatched heroes recently, was disappointed; the tapestry of the story had a lot more moth holes than I noticed when watching it at an hour per week. Shouldn't affect my enjoyment of season 2 tho.

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Seriously though,

"Bow to me, for I am your god, or face my--"
::Head explodes::

My question is, does the Prior of the Ori know when he's being shot at from a mile and a half away?

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Unfortuantely it probably wouldn't matter; that trick would likely only work once, they could have always-on shields if they wanted, they just haven't had a reason.


While I'm here, I was pondering the furlings again the other day, and the hint (or herring) that we might have seen the furlings in the series and just not known it. One wacky idea was the fireflies; it occurred to me how many times they've appeared as an irrelevant detail on planets across two galaxies, and when featured prominently they displayed apparent intelligence. It would be the ultimate irony on the SCG staff that they'd had the opportunity to communicate with them for years and just not recognized it.

A possibility that keeps coming back to me is the whales from Atlantis; it would explain the choice of a mostly-water planet as the last hiding place of the Lanteans (I think that's what they're calling themselves these days... ).

New SG:A soon. Huzzah! And no more of that damned "america last" bs like season 10.5, lol.