Rick and Morty

[Reply #320 on:]

Interesting that Morty is slowly becoming more violent and unstable.

There have been other points where he snaps hard when he's been pushed enough (for example, the episode with the Flu Dance). This is just the logical escalation of that trait when placed in increasingly escalated situations. He's a scared kid with a lot of repressed anger, and not much in the way of self-regulation.

I think that the instability and potential for violence have always been there, and the evidence for them has been right in front of the viewer. It's just that as situations become more extreme, so do Morty's responses.

Despite that violent instability, that potential to snap when pushed hard enough, Morty's basically decent, or tries to be. More so than Rick, anyhow. I do wonder if perhaps we're seeing the core though of what might have happened to drive that one alternate Morty to the dark side, and whether we might eventually see Morty confront his inner demons and subdue them rather than succumbing to them - something that the Bad Morty never managed to do, and something that Rick himself hasn't fully managed, either.

[Reply #321 on:]

I thought the story was pretty uninteresting still pretty funny. Morty snapping at thelighthouse keeper was gold.

[Reply #322 on:]

"How about we cut to three weeks earlier, before you died?!"

[Reply #323 on:]

"How about we cut to three weeks earlier, before you died?!"

Definitely the biggest laugh of the episode for me.

Overall, far from the show's best, but I enjoyed it nonetheless.

[Reply #324 on:]

I really enjoyed the purge episode. It made for a better purge movie that either purge movie.

[Reply #325 on:]

Season finale was really great.

"We'd offer you some bacon, but we hunted it to extinction for breakfast."

[Reply #326 on:]

RIP Birdperson

[Reply #327 on:]

Season 3 episode 1 will be the Smiths busting Rick out of jail.

Interesting finale. Not where I expected it to go, but pretty good regardless.

[Reply #328 on:]

This finale was just what the show needed. Although the individual episodes were mostly great, I really thought the season would be more cohesive. I'll probably binge watch the entire thing like I did with the first season.

I kind of wish they wouldn't have killed off Birdperson, but I'm curious to get to know more about Rick's past... and the Evil Morty thing.

[Reply #329 on:]

I know that I'm going to be completely alone in this, but I was pretty underwhelmed by the finale to the point that it was probably my least favourite season 2 episode.

Obviously, it was pretty good, but nothing about it really ticked my boxes. It lacked the sci-fi that the show can do, it lacked the fantastical concepts that it does some of the other times, it lacked the usual levels of hilarity and it tried to make up for it all with emotion but I just don't really care about these characters on that much of an emotional level. Not yet, anyway.

I dunno. I just feel left out.

[Reply #330 on:]

I didn't feel it was a strong episode, and the fact that the writers are gutsy enough to kill off characters they brought into the fold is kind of depressing.

That said, I wouldn't say it was my least favorite episode of season 2.  Season 2 was pretty enjoyable overall, but I think I'm going to be completely in company in this, with the finale of season 2 I really am just feeling like I'm missing out on Rick & Morty adventuring fun;  just sad in a way that the season is over and almost feeling short changed in a weird and unfair way (from the perspective of the people who create and produce this wonderful time waster).  I think they know that though, obviously they were teasing all of us with Mr. Poopy Butthole... so eh... whatevs.

* winna shrugs and walks off.

[Reply #331 on:]

I know that I'm going to be completely alone in this, but I was pretty underwhelmed by the finale to the point that it was probably my least favourite season 2 episode.

Obviously, it was pretty good, but nothing about it really ticked my boxes. It lacked the sci-fi that the show can do, it lacked the fantastical concepts that it does some of the other times, it lacked the usual levels of hilarity and it tried to make up for it all with emotion but I just don't really care about these characters on that much of an emotional level. Not yet, anyway.

I dunno. I just feel left out.

The different planets they went to seemed fairly sci-fi-ish.

Strangely, I'd probably consider this episode to be one of the season's better ones. Total Rickall is still my favourite.

[Reply #332 on:]

I thought the season was gonna start out with more goofy/adventure type episodes then go towards the heavy/feels stuff nearer to the end, but it was kind of the other way around (not counting the last 10 minutes or so of the finale).

Something about this new season was a letdown. On the whole it was brilliant, but I can't put my finger on what it was that made it feel kind of meh. I think maybe we didn't get enough character development (except for Morty, who just became more like Rick for most of the season). Jerry and Beth just do the exact same thing every episode, I hope they make a major change to them/their relationship next season.

[Reply #333 on:]

Well, I for one wasn't let down by this season at all. I sincerely enjoyed every minute of it. I think it was just as strong as season one.

[Reply #334 on:]

Well, I for one wasn't let down by this season at all. I sincerely enjoyed every minute of it. I think it was just as strong as season one.

Agreed. Though I wish they would get to the Beth/Rick stuff already. I don't even think they've had a moment alone with each other. Until the show gets to that point I'll stubbornly reserve my total engagement in the show's emotional core (because BoJack Horseman drained it out of me).

[Reply #335 on:]

Jerry and Beth just do the exact same thing every episode, I hope they make a major change to them/their relationship next season.

This is my one critique. They're such one-dimensional characters at the moment and really wish they'd do something different for once. Beth shooting Mr. Poopybutthole could've been a defining moment for her character but it went nowhere.

I liked season 1 more but season 2 was still very good.

[Reply #336 on:]

I just started watching this show last week and have enjoyed it so far.  I also liked Total Rickall.  Even though I like the two-plot format of almost all the rest of the episodes, having all the characters involved in one plot was amusing.

The second season finale was also a one-plotter, but it was less entertaining.  The story, rather than the format, was where my problem was.  The whole "fugitive" aspect seems to have come a bit out of left field.  I get that Rick has been killing bugs, selling weapons, stealing crystals and mega seeds, and dating brain plagues, but the existence of a galactic federation or whatever was introduced rather clumsily before it became relevant.  I'd almost prefer the trap to be sprung and have Rick deliver some expository dialog during the firefight.  A more gradual introduction over the season would have been ideal, but Bird Person's dialog seemed forced and out of place.*

I am looking forward to season three.  Morty seems a little too naive to pick up universe-hopping on his own in Rick's absence, and I'm curious how they'll handle it.  The possibilities of incorporating the Council of Ricks or Evil Morty are enticing.  I suspect the changes to Earth seen in the end of the finale will mean most of the third season will take place thereupon, which would also give the season a unique feel.  I'm less excited about potential returns of Morty Jr. or Mr. Poopybutthole.

*EDIT: I guess a government is mentioned in the Council of Ricks episode and the telepathic fart episode.  It's fitting for Rick's very vague backstory that his relationship with this government is equally vague, but I can't help but feel the way it was handled was rushed.

[Reply #337 on:]

I'd say I enjoyed season 1 a little bit more, if only for the fact that it had a higher number of balls-to-the-wall science fiction episodes. But season 2 was far from a let-down, and I think it definitely had the better season finale of the two.

I was wondering why they didn't just move to another universe in which Rick and Bird Person had successfully remained in hiding, but I guess Rick just didn't bring his portal gun with him for whatever reason. And it seems unlikely that they'll go with that ending, given all the permanent changes made to Earth at the end.

Anyway, I'm really looking forward to season three.

[Reply #338 on:]

He got his portal gun taken away from him by Tammy, probably without time to recover it.

[Reply #339 on:]

Didn't he blow it up? I can't remember if it showed it after the explosion.

[Reply #340 on:]

Ya, if I recall it stopped working properly so he threw it and used it as a portal bomb.

[Reply #341 on:]

The finale felt sorta underwhelming for me...... I mean, I loved the whole galactic federation twist and whatnot, since it's been briefly mentioned that Rick doesn't get along with them in "Mortynight Run", instead of just lazily crammed in there for the sake of plot twists.. But I didn't really find this episode all that funny or great in quality aside from Bird Person's wedding/death, and the whole twist ending. There was definitely room for improvement, but I think it was a good episode nonetheless, just another episode of Rick and Morty, aside from being one of the seasons' weakest eps.

I just hope that Season 3 puts the series back into it's status quo. I don't think I'd be able to view the show the same if Earth manages to stay a Federation planet.

[Reply #342 on:]

Speaking of Tammy by way of the federation, it seems like they could have set her up a little better for her grand betrayal.  If she was on Earth, then it would make sense that her target would be Rick and not Birdperson.  I get that a Birdperson in hand is worth two in the bush, but there were few indications that she had much interest in the Smith-Sanchezes.  A more nuanced approach would be to show her trying to get close to Rick via Summer.

[Reply #343 on:]

I thought finale was very good, up there with the first episodes of the season. The ending came bit too quickly though and some plot points could have been explained or built up some more. But it was funny and emotional and ending did leave me excited for the third season (damn you Poopy Butthole).

I'd also place first season over second, but not by much.

[Reply #344 on:]

I just hope that Season 3 puts the series back into it's status quo. I don't think I'd be able to view the show the same if Earth manages to stay a Federation planet.

I'd be down with it as a season-long story arc, but I do think that I'd like the planet to revert to "normal" eventually.

[Reply #345 on:]

I just hope that Season 3 puts the series back into it's status quo. I don't think I'd be able to view the show the same if Earth manages to stay a Federation planet.

I'd be down with it as a season-long story arc, but I do think that I'd like the planet to revert to "normal" eventually.

Does it really matter though? They're barely even on Earth most of the time.

[Reply #346 on:]

Well, it would doubtlessly impact a season of the show.

If season 2 had taken place with the same changes to the status quo, "Get Schwifty", "Big Trouble in Little Sanchez" and "Interdimensional Cable 2" would probably have been quite different.

That's not necessarily a bad thing, though.

[Reply #347 on:]

I thought the season finale did a good job of giving us a dramatic finish, while staying true to the nature of the show. I thought Auto Erotic Assimilation was kind of stupid and the overly dramatic ending felt tacked on.

Jerry and Beth just do the exact same thing every episode...

That is what marriage is like.

[Reply #348 on:]

The ending of that episode did feel a bit ramped up given what we know about Rick.  If Rick were so hedonistic, self-destructive, and exploitative that losing Unity was worth killing himself over, it seems like he'd be more inclined to find another host to fuel those aspects of his character, even if it meant one less capable of catering to his every whim.  If he had been remorseful about driving away someone he truly cared about ("care" manifesting itself as hedonism, self-destruction, and exploitation) because he was hedonistic, self-destructive, and exploitative, then I'd expect to see less of that in subsequent episodes or a renewed disdain for people he'd erstwhile shown compassion toward, namely Morty.

There haven't been as many humanizing moments for Rick since that episode, though there weren't terribly many before it—three, by my count.  The only time Rick showed much of any compassion for his family after the Unity episode was in the season finale.  I guess he kind of did in the Tiny Rick episode too, but that his tiny persona was not genuine was a key plot point.  In any case he reverted to his old self when he reverted to his old self.

[Reply #349 on:]

I haven't been able to post about the last episode because I've been in bed crying over the death of Bird Person since the episode aired.

[Reply #350 on:]

So, I got around to watching the season finale. As much as I want further episodes (and know that further episodes are coming), I think that this would be a brilliantly devastating note to end the series on.

I'm guessing that either there's going to be a reversion to form from Rick, or that this is going to be shown to have taken place inside an alternate timeline or a dream or as part of a big fakeout or something though. The reset button is going to have to be hit hard, and I'm not sure they'll go with moving to a different universe the way they did after Rick fucked up in Rick Potion #9.

I'm also wondering if before the reset button is pressed, we might see Morty slip a little further towards the dark side, or even see the Evil Morty crop up and try to tempt him all the way over now that he's Rick-less.

I suppose I'm also the only person who doesn't give a shit about Bird-person's death.

[Reply #351 on:]

I suppose I'm also the only person who doesn't give a shit about Bird-person's death.

The only reason Birdperson's death bothered me is because I thought he was a funny character. He wasn't exactly a super-compelling character.

[Reply #352 on:]

I liked Bird Person, but felt no sadness over his death. It's a good sign of strong writing when a show is willing to kill off a well-received supporting character in favour of compelling story telling (and doubly so in a comedy - laying a reliable source of humour to rest before the joke gets old). Not to mention the fact that he actually ended up having somewhat of an important story arc - one to which his death is now integral.

I also don't think they'll hit the reset button in season 3 - at least not immediately. All the changes made to Earth in the finale would suggest they plan on mining these story developments for further comedy next season.

[Reply #353 on:]

I, too, couldn't give a shit about Bird-Person's death.

[Reply #354 on:]

Yeah, you wouldn't give a shit about Bird Person's death, you heartless MONSTERS!

[Reply #355 on:]

I liked Birdperson, but a little more characterization would likely have made him more endearing to more people and made his death more poignant.  Like Tammy's betrayal, it's something that could have been set up a bit better to have more emotional impact.  I assume it wasn't an artistic decision to keep the audience (except for Jezzem) cold to the supporting characters as a reflection of Rick's own emotional distance, though that would be an interesting interpretation.  Rather I imagine it was due to the constraints placed on the show by its runtime and the devotion to the two-story episodes.

[Reply #356 on:]

It's also quite possible we'll get more of Birdperson in flashbacks, anyway.

[Reply #357 on:]

Bird Person

Bird-person

Birdperson

Bird-Person

I may not care that he died, but I do care that there doesn't seem to be a universally-agreed-upon spelling for his name.

[Reply #358 on:]

BerdPursen?

[Reply #359 on:]

Brad Bird?