Zmithy
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I'm trying to make my way through The Next Generation, but it really isn't doing it for me so far.
Does it pick up drastically after season 1 or something because so far it's mostly all episodes where Patrick Stewart gets possessed or drunk or something and acts a bit unusual whilst re-treading lots of the material already covered by the original series. Also, gone is the simplistic and often comical tone of the original series which I loved it for. I loved that it worked similarly to The Twilight Zone with episodes often serving as little parables.
But yes, I've heard from a few people that it's worth sticking with TNG. What are your thoughts, PEEL?
It gets better from season 3 onwards. Anything with Q or the Borg is downright brilliant.
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Nixorbo
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Why is the tractor beam coming out of the phaser banks now?
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i_c_weiner
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It's possible they're two unrelated shots. The GIF maker possibly used them to show the Enterprise's CGI update rather than anything with the beams.
I mean, the stars in the background aren't even in the same position!!!
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coldangel
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The quality improvement is great.
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Tachyon
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I'm trying to make my way through The Next Generation, but it really isn't doing it for me so far.
Does it pick up drastically after season 1 or something because so far it's mostly all episodes where Patrick Stewart gets possessed or drunk or something and acts a bit unusual whilst re-treading lots of the material already covered by the original series. Also, gone is the simplistic and often comical tone of the original series which I loved it for. I loved that it worked similarly to The Twilight Zone with episodes often serving as little parables.
But yes, I've heard from a few people that it's worth sticking with TNG. What are your thoughts, PEEL?
Season 1 seemed like Roddenberry was deliberately making it campy and shallow/stereotypical, to provide contrast for the character development in later seasons. Especially for Frakes and Spiner. TNG is my favorite Trek.
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Xanfor
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All this talk about the improvement of TNG in later seasons kind of makes me want to give it another try. ... Nah. * Xanfor puts the non-remastered original series back on.
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coldangel
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You dick. TNG is really good. It has Q. Q! Worth watching the whole thing just for him, especially in the finale, it's such a huge payoff.
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Zmithy
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All this talk about the improvement of TNG in later seasons kind of makes me want to give it another try.
It might interest you to know that Discord from MLP was voiced by the actor who played Q, and that the character in both shows is basically the same, an all-powerful immortal being who just wants to troll everyone. At least watch "The Inner Light" episode if nothing else, seriously, I even recommend this to people who hate everything sci-fi as a means of showing off just how good the genre can be when it hits the right notes.
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Tachyon
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I'm putting this here instead of in merch because I'd prefer that it goes to a hardcore nerd who enjoys collecting obscure bits of Trek paraphernalia. On Friday I was riffling through boxes of old CDs at my favorite used book store and came across this. I picked it up for next to nothing, thinking that some Trek loving peeler might like it. The link is to someone's auction, not mine! (I don't do ebay) If this is something you'd enjoy in your collection of Trek gear, just PM me your snail address and I'll drop it in the post. The CDs are in a folding cardboard sleeve and reportedly have a combination of scores for scenes from the film along with some comments from Roddenberry. I only have one of these. (STAR TREK:THE MOTION PICTURE 20TH ANNIVERSARY COLLECTORS ED. 2 CD LEGACY PROMO)Cheers!
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Gopher
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back in early jan I started re-warching trek, as I'd not watched any of it in a long time. Saved Voyager for last, watching it now; it's fairly watchable, but it's really amazing how painfully bad some of the writing is at times, particularly the technobabble. Warp 10! Coaxial warp! Transwarp! Complex transmitters attached to individual atoms! yeah.
I actually enjoyed the first season of ds9, though it did get better as time went on. TNG, I dunno anymore even. First season's pretty terrible, granted; later seasons have some of the best episodes in the entire franchise, hands-down, but at the same time, they never managed to shed the occassional barely-watchable episode, right through season 7.
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Svip
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« Reply #574 on: 03-26-2012 08:37 »
« Last Edit on: 03-26-2012 08:41 »
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I should totally have posted this here. Although, in retrospect - tired as I may have been - it still wasn't the exactly wrong place to post it.
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Svip
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Liberal!
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Xanfor
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It might interest you to know that Discord from MLP was voiced by the actor who played Q, and that the character in both shows is basically the same, an all-powerful immortal being who just wants to troll everyone.
Oh, I know that. I recognized his voice from the sneak previews before he was even announced. I'll admit I enjoy the Q episodes I have seen, and that TNG is rather good as sci-fi television goes, but I really can't see it as Star Trek. It's just not as campy or obviously a product of 1960s Califorina as TOS is. Speaking of Discord, there's a funny picture I've got to PM you when I find it again.
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i_c_weiner
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As long as he's in charge of it and not some studio honky that wants it to be like Star Trek XI (lens flares and all), I think it would be a fantastic idea. Putting it on TV and then having a DVD release would be the best way of doing it, hopefully CBS goes for it before he had to go to Syfy.
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futurefreak
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Ugh, Syfy, I will never get used to that spelling...
Can you imagine if Michael Dorn did an adult film with one certain "formidable" reptile-like adversary of Kirk? They could call it Dorn Gorn Porn.
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Tachyon
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Yes, he was. And that scene was totally just melodrama. *
* and yeah, it choked me up big time...
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Nasty Pasty
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I just read that story about Dorn's TV-movie pitch. I think it sounds like a pretty badass idea, assuming it's done right. I'm actually surprised Star Trek has never made that leap into direct to DVD/TV films like Stargate or Farscape has. I think it'd be a great way to grow the brand and look at interesting side stories...
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i_c_weiner
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It's always been TV series or theatrical movies though, so the jump to a distribution medium that is a little less um "classy" (?) is a big one to make for a franchise with that image (or self-image). They may be afraid of diminished quality in a direct-to universe, which is understandable. However, it's not exactly the 90's anymore. If they can crowd-fund a space Nazis film, they can make quality relatively low budget Star Trek material.
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Tachyon
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TOS has its moments, sure. Perhaps if it had been made in more modern times (80s, 90s) with a larger budget it could have reached its potential. Think TNG-class effects, cinematography, props, etc.
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Gopher
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Also, "increased by 1 to the 4th power." really, nobody involved could've caught that? Also also, finding an exact duplicate of earth doesn't seem worth even discussing to anyone? They just note that it's an exact copy of earth, then move on, without anyone asking how the hell THAT happened? Also also also, while scifi shows today can be almost as bad about this sort of thing (I'm looking at you, eureka), anyone writing scifi scripts needs to learn the difference between a solar system, a galaxy, and the whole universe. The terms are never interchangeable.
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