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coldangel
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Next-Gen technology is too advanced for my liking. To me, everything they have is a Deus Ex Machina unto itself. Especially all the hologram shit. It becomes a bit stale - like the Culture novels; when everything is so Godlike there's never a sense of real danger. That's just personal taste though.
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But a main difference was that one of Voyager's main characters was a hologram. TNG and DS9 only used it as a plot point in some episodes, whilst Voyager depended on it every episode.
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I liked the new film a lot. I want to see three or four more with this cast, and I would watch a new TOS. However, I would love to see a finale to the TNG era, with the TNG, DS9, and VOY casts all involved. Some big three-hour once-and-for-all ending to the 24th century movies, a grand farewell to that portion of the franchise. With character deaths galore and an apocalyptic ending from which something totally new emerges.
It's not going to happen, unfortunately. So I'm going to have to make do with hoping that there's going to be a decent offering coming soon from the new cast. If they remake II, III and IV with the current cast, it might not turn out so well. I want to see something original. Something fresh and exciting, but with enough shout-outs to the previous canon to remind everybody why they're watching. Which is exactly what this movie was.
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But a main difference was that one of Voyager's main characters was a hologram. TNG and DS9 only used it as a plot point in some episodes, whilst Voyager depended on it every episode.
I can accept a holograpgic character,wich is just like a robot or android (like Data, an artificial "life" form) and all plots involving it wanting to became more "human" and so are wellcome.. like the eps where the rights of Data and the Doctor are taking into question in trial.. those were generally good eps But.. having quite a lot of episodes involving adventures in the "malfunctioning" holodeck was way cross the sillyness line.. Its a space ship.. Star Trek is about space exploration.. relationships with other races.. etc.. not messing arround in a fraking room INSIDE the ship.. all those eps could be ploted in a room in earth.. its just a cheap way to put them in Sheerwood forest or in the 1920s Chicago.. its pointless and gratoitous.. and as i said my patiente with it blowed away pretty quick when Picard was amazed at the holodecks being able to reproduce... holograms!!..and he making a staff meeting just to tell it and organize a holo-adventure with them.. you are the captain of the federation flag ship!! Stop doing that!!
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Yes, I'll give you that there were some funky plots developed from the holodecks, especially in TNG. I watched Generations last night and the beginning part of the TNG section of the movie was pure WTF. However, DS9, I felt, used the holodeck and holosuites in a much more constructive and reasonable fashion. The lounge singer comes to mind there. And without the holodeck, we wouldn't have the Niners versus Vulcans baseball game!
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« Reply #448 on: 05-26-2009 07:06 »
« Last Edit on: 05-26-2009 07:12 »
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Star Trek XI has almost doubled the #2 domestic grossing Trek film, IV, already. However, it's nowhere close to The Motion Picture calculated for inflation. Here's the inflation list:
The Motion Picture: $271,560,238.28 The Voyage Home: $219,497,422.13 Star Trek XI: $191,034,000 The Wrath of Khan: $186,968,067.89 The Search for Spock: $165,314,864.33 First Contact: $130,083,154.09 The Undiscovered Country: $123,424,750.56 Generations: $112,816,408.28 The Final Frontier: $95,047,400.06 Insurrection: $94,156,324.97 Nemesis: $52,572,771.34 As you can see, it's just passed Khan and still has about $80 million to go to catch The Motion Picture. I don't even think it has almost $30 million left in it domestically to catch up to IV. I don't mean to detract from it, because it's about to break the Top 100 all-time global box office. It's still in the top tier of Trek films gross-wise, but still isn't anywhere close the dent The Motion Picture made. However, I find it interesting how lonely Nemesis is down at the bottom, Insurrection and V almost doubling its gross.
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coldangel
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Wasn't that the name of one of the Ships?
Probably. Crazy AIs.
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coldangel
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I see nothing weird about those.
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coldangel
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It's a human greeting a Vulcan.
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[trekie mode] Why is a Vulcan wearing a red shirt then? They are specialists in the Sciences, which means blue shirts![/trekie mode]
Depends on which era the uniform is from. Red uniforms can denote command status. Or perhaps the Vulcan is a cadet or ensign, or similar junior position. They'd not be given full bridge officer status, hence they'd not be given a blue or yellow uniform. There are a billion possibilities.
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coldangel
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From WoK onward for decades to come, everybody in starfleet wore red.
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Nixorbo
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Does the door shut on somebody?
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His contribution to Shakespearean theatre.
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