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coldangel
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Well if it turns out to be about Section 31, I shall sue because it was my idea. You all saw what I wrote!
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futurefreak
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I didn't, actually. But don't let Tachy know that! INNNN Trek related news however, one of Randi's local friends reviews movies for a website and tv show, and so Randi is going to get to see INTO DARKNESS two days ahead of release for free! EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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futurefreak
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Hahaha ^ I made Frisco watch the 2009 movie yesterday. In exchange he's making me watch one of the original Star Wars movies again. He'd been apprehensive about seeing the movie because he thought it would be like one gigantic TNG episode, where they talk about the problem and it's philosophical ramifications for 90 minutes and do something about it in the remaining ten minutes...
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futurefreak
salutatory committee member
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Yes Anna that's quite alright - you can call me Randi, that's my name Yeah the guy who is getting us tickets actually prefers Wars to Trek, but he knew how excited I would be to go see it so I am exponentially thankful Otherwise I would have no one to see it with around here I saw the 09 one for free as well with costco passes I got as a birthday gift, and even IMAX was no extra charge! That was awesome! I rarely see movies in theaters so when I do go it's either free or better be worth it lol.
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Anna3000
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The Next Generation's best
That's the one with the captain who donated his hair so his first officer could have a beard, right?
Maybe not (assuming you're referring to "Mirror, Mirror", which, if not, I'm sorry, my mind's pretty slow at the moment), but, in my opinion, it is the one with the best story lines and characters, plus Samuel Clemens, who I love, and some of the best cliffhangers ever
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futurefreak
salutatory committee member
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Saw the movie...do not read further if you don't want spoilers. I thought it was good. The thing with these movies are they're a bit campy with more screen effects, which kinda works given the era it is trying to recreate. I knew this would be sorta like a Khan redo, I liked the parallel callbacks but I hope if they do more movies, it will be something completely different. I don't know if it's being lazy or wanting to follow a similar path as the other crew, indicating that this universe isn't really THAT far off from the TOS storyline, but I would like to see some new characters, something that totally comes out of left field because of the events of the first movie. I thought it was good for what it was though.
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Tachyon
DOOP Secretary
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How about a rating outside of spoilers? Or at least a thumbs-up or thumbs-down?
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futurefreak
salutatory committee member
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Thumbs up I would say. Good watch.
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coldangel
DOOP Secretary
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Changes from TOS-era that cannot be easily explained by Nero's alteration of the timeline:
A certain Indian man (played by a Mexican) with an unidentifiable accent is now a white man with a British accent. Possibly surgically altered by Section 31 to conceal his identity... or something.
Kirk's once and future romantic interest, an American woman, is now British.
Klingons facial structure divergent once again... possibly another side-effect of the augment virus, though at the time the virus was supposed to have rendered them almost human in appearance.
Praxis - the moon orbiting Qo'nos (NOT "Kronos"!), was shown to have exploded. This wasn't supposed to have happened until around a quarter-century later.
And while I'm at it; something that irked me about the previous film: How did they identify Nero and his crew as Romulans? The Federation had never actually seen one in the flesh and they are almost physically indistinguishable from Vulcans.
Anyway, it was awesome. Didn't feel like real Star Trek, but an awesome sci-fi action film.
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sparkybarky
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I've seen this film twice in the past few days. I really enjoyed this film, but I think my enjoyment is mostly due to the great casting and acting, and the visual beauty and awesome effects. I think the actors who portrayed Kirk, Spock, McCoy, Chekov, Scotty, and of course the villain (ooh, yes, I've been a Cumberbitch since seeing the BBC Sherlock Holmes series) all do a great job. While I love Zoe Saldana, I think she is rather miscast as Uhura; I mean, Nichelle Nichols was much curvier and more feminine, and Saldana plays her as a modern badassed feminist. I realize this a reboot of the TOS universe, but if they tried to more or less stay true to the original cast's basic physical features, why not Uhura? Also, I'm rather lukewarm about Cho's Sulu--I guess I miss George's cheekbones, full lips, and smooth purr. Cho's portrayal was just too bland. And the visuals...that planet of the opening scene really popped, with its vivid scarlet and contrasting white of the trees and the natives. Enterprise rising from the ocean like a leviathan was truly a sight to behold. These are just examples, and everything I've said applies to the previous film, too (the Romulans' ship emerging from the singularity was just so badass). That said, the story was incredibly and unnecessarily convoluted, and can filmmakers these days ever grasp that moments of silence can be incredibly powerful and suspenseful? That not everything needs to be filled with frantic action? It's like the movie was a combination of a person who's too insecure to let any moment in the conversation be silent, and a person who can't ever, ever, EVER stop doing things (e.g., my ADHD sister, who must be always be working out, taking a walk, Facebooking, going out with friends, etc, etc). I suppose this is a general comment on the state of action movies these days. Also, I agree with many of the points stated here earlier (truly, the spoiler tags contain spoilers): Mainly, that it was unnecessary that Harrison turned out to be Khan. This is not a reflection of Cumberbatch's excellent acting; he did well with what he was given. However, I really saw no similarity of Montalban's Khan and his Khan. It just seemed so random, and a reach in order to make possible the scene where Kirk's and Spock's roles are reversed when Kirk saves the ship and dies while Spock looks on brokenhearted. And of course, Spock gets to yell the infamous line.
That's just a trifle for me, though. I suppose my enjoyment of the callback and the clever reversal overrode any disappointment. I did appreciate the attention to Starfleet's role as a peacekeeping organization, and various crew members' dismay over the militarization of the mission, and Spock's entreaty to Kirk to act with compassion and reason, rather than out of vengeance. That, and Marcus' lust for a preemptive war with the Klingons resonated with our times. However, again, not enough thoughtfulness and exploration of these themes, because there needed to be more crashes and bangs and plot twists and 'oh no, we're going to die' moments.
I realize that it's unfair to compare a feature length movie made in the 2000s intended as a summer blockbuster with the original series that was created in the late 60s. The two are just completely different animals. While I immensely enjoyed this movie as well as Abrams' previous Star Trek, there seemed to be something missing.
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Xanfor
Moderator
DOOP Secretary
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The second best Star Trek series is now available on non-subscription Hulu for free. And still isn't an option on this poll, for shame.
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Tachyon
DOOP Secretary
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I'll be seeing it while on vacation next month. The extremely polarized reviews put me off at first, but I've heard enough from friends now that I'm confident I'll enjoy it.
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