The Walking Dead

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There's a thread for Walking Dead? Hoorah!

LORI IS A DUMB SLUNT. I hope she'll go the way she did in the comic book, and soon.

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I love the #futurama fans but they can be seriously mean when they want to be. That's the last time I look at a fan forum.

@Kitchelfilms Which forum?

@DannyJC13 the Peelified page, particularly the walking dead discussion.

Nice going, guys.

I know I'm a little late to this party but Eric was pretty brutal on WD. He should've expected a backlash from the show's fans after seemingly spending a whole day whining and insulting the show on twitter. I personally love WD and I think the writing is beyond anything Eric's done for Futurama.

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Bump.

Season premiere the other night.  I guess it broke all sorts of records too. 

I thought it was awesome.  Way more fast paced, Carl is grown up (Thank God), everyone seems pretty kick ass now.

LOVED the end!

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When Hershel was bitten I was like "OH NOES" and was just waiting for Rick to shoot him, since he seems all hardened now.  But NO!  Takes out an axe and chops his leg off!!  Amazing!  I wonder how they know that will keep him from becoming a zombie, or if its just his best guess to try and save Hershel.  Either way, it was kick ass.

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I think the biggest development this episode was that T-Dog had more than 2 lines.

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Great episode. Way better than anything in season 2. Hopefully season 3 stays this way and maintains the quality of season 1 and we can all forget 2 ever happened.

It was still only 20 minutes or so of storyline like in season 2's episodes, but instead of padding it out with horrendously cheesy soap-opera crap, this episode padded it out with badass zombie action, so I get behind that.

Anyway, the prison story arc is off to a great start and it looks like they might just do it justice.

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I loved how nobody talked in the opening 3 minutes or so, that was the best part... finally getting to have the characters other than Daryl stfu for more than a few seconds.

I really like how they built up the prison clearance in 3 stages.. getting to the gate seemed easy enough, then by the time they were in the courtyard you started thinking "Uh.. guys... SWAT team zombies.. time to back off a bit maybe?". Was fully expecting Maggie to get eaten at any point there!

..and then the end with them trying to hunt zombies hand-to-hand through a maze of pitch black winding corridors was just one great big pile of NOPE, with predictable results.

It clearly showed them getting too overconfident and biting off more than they could chew, which was great.

For once, Lori was actually right, they really did need to take a breather and plan out a better way to gradually kill off the zombie population instead of just charging in. When you have locked secure doors between a bunch of buildings, taking it slowly and making lots of small low-risk hit-and-run operations would work better... go in, take out the nearest zombie, immediately retreat as the others notice you and lock the door. I like how the show kinda gets you to think about these sorts of things.

Great cliffhanger too, can't wait for episode 2.

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Zmithy, I am in agreement with you about taking things slow.  For example, the place where they killed off the riot team zombies, they also closed up a fence with zombies inside of it.  I thought they should have gone back to there and did the "stab zombies in the face through the fence" thing until those were all taken out.  That would have been a very low risk place to start, and who knows where that could have lead.

Also LOVED the talk between Lori and Hershel.  Never occurred to me what might happen if she miscarried or some one died in childbirth.  Luckily at this stage she would know if she was miscarrying, but they would have to get that baby out FAST to prevent it from eating her from the inside out.

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I mean, I doubt it would have developed enough teeth or nails to be able to get through her uteral walls, but ya, the idea of having an undead fetus inside of you is pretty nasty. It would at least probably flail and kick like crazy, which wouldn't be pleasant.

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IDK Josh, its pretty soft in there.  Would easily break through the amniotic sac, and babies have nails when they are born too, so it would start scratching and nawing away. 

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I've seen Dawn of the Dead, so it crossed my mind.

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ahahah, the riot gear zombies were the best

Carl finally stopped whining and matured, and even try to hit it with one of Herschel's daughters (the one whom no one remembers). Awesome. Hahaha.

And oh right. Andrea. Forgot about her, heh.

As far as Rick saving Herschel and not shooting him, I presume part of that at least had to do with Herschel being the only one able to deliver the baby (or whatever is left of it unbeknownst to Rick) inside Lori. Which I guess still shows a little compassion on his side.

Overall it was a great premiere. And they changed the opening, interesting.

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Carl was SO much less annoying!  Lori too.

I'm guessing that one of the prisoner's they ran into has some medical training (or has a history of being shived) so he will be able to help out Hershel both with the missing limb and baby.

If you can't tell, I was very excited by this premiere. 

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^ Ah, good point.. I was wondering how Rick was going to handle something as serious as an amputation on his own. That'll makes things a little more interesting.. it's possible that the prisoners are actually less dangerous than the group is currently since they've been sheltered from the worst of it, locking themselves inside with all the food (good luck with any of the stores being left!).

Very glad they ordered 16 episodes for this season, 4 months is a good amount of time for a season to air, I don't mind them splitting it for an xmas break so much when there's a full 8 eps either side.

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I can watch again, AMC is on DISH!!

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Not a bad episode this week. I was annoyed we didn't see any Michonne, but next week's episode looks like there'll be a lot of her, so that's something.

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Lori had a smattering of dumb moments, such as letting Carl run off without her realizing again, and giving mouth-to-mouth to someone who was basically dead, but I sort of forgave her for that great line at the end "It'll give Carl a safe place to... do whatever it is he does these days" self-aware shows are the best.

The evolution of Cold BadAss Rick is coming along nicely as well. Daryl was probably the more sympathetic one.

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(I haven't watched in a while but I imagine this is still the case)

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Last year there would've needed to be a place for Carl Faces, but he's not annoying anymore.

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It'll be interesting if the group finds Andrea alive with Michonne, presuming she makes it with her.

Haha, that's a great chart Faze

I think Carl's really come into his own. He went from whiny Carl to I-do-what-I-want-mofos Carl, and look, he brought them back some gauze! Lol

When Rick was giving Lori the whole 'you're not a bad mother' thing I was expecting him to follow it up with, 'you're not great either'.

Lol, one of the guys in my group was like what if Hershel's amputated leg became zombified...we'd call it, The Walking Leg

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Spoiler -> Andrea makes it to the group alive with Michonne.

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Probably could've guessed that.

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This week's episode was fantastic. It might just be the fatigue brought on by season 2 clouding my memory, but it could easily be my favourite episode to date.
Season 2 really sucked but season 3, so far (and I know we're only 2 episodes in) is fantastic and everything I hoped this show would be. I'm so happy.
What I'm really amazed about is how quickly this season is zipping along. As someone who read the comics (and partly based on the way that such a minor story arc was stretched out for all of season 2), I expected the thing with the prisoners to play out for at least 3 or 4 episodes. I know their story isn't quite done yet, but it's moved along a lot faster than I thought it would. And we'll be seeing The Governor and his settlement next week. At this pace, how can the prison arc last more than another 7 or so episodes? Still, I'm not complaining.
Also, I loved the outcome of things with the prison inmates. An interesting direction to take given how the comics play out, but I suppose it was a logical one and one that'll be interesting to see continue to play out. I hope they stick with the major event that happens with them next in the comics, but I wouldn't be surprised if they don't.

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Interesting side story episode, at least we're caught up with Andrea. I didn't realize Rick and the rest weren't in it til about three quarters the way through...

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I liked how they made the Governor threatening through the cautious behaviour of his subordinates, while keeping him acting like a straight-up grade-A nice guy throughout.

Having someone like Merle being all "Yes, Governor, sorry Governor" created a massive "wtf, how much of a psycho must this guy be to get someone like freaking *Merle* to bend the knee?". That radical character change is really interesting, really happy to have him back on the show.

I did feel like the scene with the soliders would have been more effective if it was done off-screen, just having them come back and declare "they were all dead when we got there!" would have been a lot more sinister.

The fact that that scene was the "Walking Dead makes no sense at all and throws gritty realism completely out of the window" scene of the week (I mean, really, standing 10 feet in front of 10 armed military guys pointing guns at you, and then shooting their leader in the chest is not going to end up with you staying alive in any scenario) didn't help.

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It wasn't so much of a side story as it was the beginnings of what's bound to be this season (and possibly next season's) main focus - just before Woodbury and Rick's posse collide with each other.
It was the weakest episode of the season so far, but still not bad and better than the vast majority of season 2. I'm a bit upset by how a lot of the comic was portrayed, but still, they're building towards what could be absolutely wonderful providing they handle it all properly.

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I did feel like the scene with the soliders would have been more effective if it was done off-screen, just having them come back and declare "they were all dead when we got there!" would have been a lot more sinister.

The fact that that scene was the "Walking Dead makes no sense at all and throws gritty realism completely out of the window" scene of the week (I mean, really, standing 10 feet in front of 10 armed military guys pointing guns at you, and then shooting their leader in the chest is not going to end up with you staying alive in any scenario) didn't help.

I agree.   If the soldiers were killed off screen it also would have eliminated the biggest head slap moment of the episode.  After stomping a wounded soldier out with the butt of a gun the Governor gives his younger subordinate the advice "Never waste a bullet."  Just after his group went full auto on the soldiers.  Derrr.  I almost booed at that line.

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Shooting soldiers who have firepower isn't really wasting bullets.  net gain.

What Zmithy said really is the worst point.  The Governor should already be dead and he's only been in one episode.

I agree with everyone's sentiment of those events generally occurring offscreen though... it would have been better to slowly sink into the delirious world of the governor.

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Shooting soldiers who have firepower isn't really wasting bullets.  net gain.

My problem isn't that they used guns, it's that they used automatic weapons on automatic rather than semi-auto which is how someone conserving ammo would use a weapon.  Especially in light of the fact that they are all apparently such good marksmen that they could take out a bunch of soldiers before any of the soldiers could fire back.  It's a minor nitpick I guess in comparison to how ridiculously the scene began.

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The scene began okay... and your concern is a good point.  I just think it's more ridiculous to think that the Governor at the very least wouldn't have been killed in the firefight immediately..... followed by a more prolonged shoot out with casualties on both sides. 

I mean, the soldiers were already armed, and already had their arms at ready.  Even with the Governor's fake call for peaceful arbitration, it wouldn't have taken many seconds for any of the soldiers to jump straight into shoot the nigga that just got out of a car and pulled out a handgun.  Had the governor got their guards down enough to put down their weapons, it would've been more believable, but as is it was a ridiculous scene that did an okay job of making the Governor look like a sinister bad-ass..... still would've been better if we found that out at a slower pace.

I'll give you the ridiculousness since I forgot they were shooting full-auto... I thought it was funny at any rate, "Son, never waste a bullet" *head smashing maneuver* *hands knife*

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I kinda saw spoilers on facebook that said this was a "holy shit!" episode but...holy shit. That is all.

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I'm kinda surprised the baby actually lived. I guess maybe to give them hope or something. I thought it would have been more in line with the series if it was all for nothing.

Of course a crying baby does make a great albatross. Along with Herschel, although he is apparently very handy with the crutches!

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Lori is a dumb bitch for wanting to die instead of her baby. I mean, I understand the maternal instinct, and I'm not saying it wasn't realistic for her to want that to happen...but she's still a dumb bitch. She was actually a useful member of the group (well, kinda), whereas a baby is just a big fucking burden. Now she's dead and Rick has to raise it himself. If I was Rick I'd be so pissed, like thanks for dropping this baby in my lap in a zombie apocalypse and then peacing out you cunt! And asking your own son to kill you? To save a baby who doesn't need to live and will only hamper the group? Lori was a terrible horrible person. Thank god she's dead, and hopefully Rick will dump that baby on the side of the road somewhere. I mean, I know that's not going to happen...but it should.

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I have a question - how did she know the baby was a girl? Didn't she keep saying to Carl to "take care of his sister"?

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I didn't see the episode, but she notice the lack of a baby dong maybe?

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No she said this before the baby ever came out.

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She didn't really say much of anything after...

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I have a question - how did she know the baby was a girl? Didn't she keep saying to Carl to "take care of his sister"?

What she actually said was something like "you have to take care of your little brother or sister."

She didn't know what the gender was.  I actually listened for it because you brought it up and I hadn't watched it yet; had it recorded on the dvr.

Lori is a dumb bitch for wanting to die instead of her baby. I mean, I understand the maternal instinct, and I'm not saying it wasn't realistic for her to want that to happen...but she's still a dumb bitch. She was actually a useful member of the group (well, kinda), whereas a baby is just a big fucking burden. Now she's dead and Rick has to raise it himself. If I was Rick I'd be so pissed, like thanks for dropping this baby in my lap in a zombie apocalypse and then peacing out you cunt! And asking your own son to kill you? To save a baby who doesn't need to live and will only hamper the group? Lori was a terrible horrible person. Thank god she's dead, and hopefully Rick will dump that baby on the side of the road somewhere. I mean, I know that's not going to happen...but it should.

Lori actually became a more likeable character by the time she bit the dust.  She was okay in the beginning too, and if you'd have said this half a season ago, I'd agree with you prossibly.  She was fucking trying to not be a bitch though, and this season's been great so far.  This episode may have been the greatest episode since the first one, I dunno.

Also, pretty epic that Karl has to become a man by offing his own mother in the head.  Sure epic is a shitty term to use in this situation (if not any situation), but fuck it, that's some powerful emotional shit right there.  T-Dog's sacrifice was pretty powerful too, and if that had happened one and a half season's ago, then I wouldn't have given a fuck, but T-Dog grew in my eyes as a serious individual whose persona I would remember.  Live on in dreamland you sweet princes and princesses; we'll watch your children when they're gone.

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Sooo...yeah. Governor really put a bonerkill on Andrea with that whole Zombie Thunderdome thing. Not a wise move, gov'ner.

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Turns out it was a bonerwin for Governor.  I still cannot stand Andrea, whore. 

Michonne (w/e her name is) is awesome. 

The stuff with Rick was a little weird.  What I wonder is [spoilers]when Hershel picked up the phone, if he even heard a dial tone[/spoilers]

Loved the part between Darrel and Carl, when Darrel is going on about his mom and Carl is just like "Yah I shot my mom in the head."

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Great season so far.

That's all I have to say, really.

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After hearing it's been good this season, I watched from episode 208 up to 308 and yes, it's not bad, although several hours of zombies in an empty house = every room I walk into I'm checking for weak entry points and impromptu weapons that can break through a human skull...

Also, Cutty from the Wire! \/

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Overall; I think I need to accept that this show will never be on par with the comic.

I recently caught up with the last 6 issues of the comic and I could feel my heart beating in-between each issue. I was on the edge of my seat, absolutely gripped by the story and it stirred some real emotion in me and it's left me eager to see what happens next.

Season 3 of The Walking Dead has still settled into a sort of fatigue for me. I enjoyed the first half of season 3, but it still ended up being quite samey towards the end of it. There's little to differentiate each episode from the last at this point... I don't know. And the simplification of some characters and events is upsetting, but what the hell, it could be a lot worse - just look at season 2.

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I've never read the comic, but I've never pretended to suspect that this show might turn out at all like The Watchmen.  On its own, the show is an interesting direction for television to turn to; it mixes a couple of things together in a genre that hasn't been readily adapted for by television yet.  It's a pioneer in that way, and like the X-Files was in its hey-day, as a pioneer it will carry with it all of its strengths and weaknesses.  X-Files was a better show, but it wasn't based off previous material.

I suspect like with Games of Throne that at some point I'll check out the source material and thoroughly enjoy them, especially the gathering of better details, but I'm not in a hurry to get to that point; as is, both are shows are decent enough for me to continue watching, and I'll enjoy them (the television series) on that level.  I suspect it may be better this way too, because if the source material is that much better it may completely distract me from wanting to engage the television series.  As a sidenote, I read Watchmen shortly before watching the movie; Watchmen seems to be an exception to adaptations of its kind because it is superb in almost all qualities.