900 Going On 11th Incarnation - Doctor Who

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If you want to change the name, be my guest.

Planet of the Dead, in my opinion, wasn't terrible but wasn't brilliant. I'm not someone that finds Lee Evans funny but he was actually really good in this.

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Damn, you beat me to it (I was trying to think of a TARDIS acronym).

I thought Lee Evans was excellent, and I'm no fan either. I enjoyed the new species but felt very let down that the fly guys both died. They should have saved one, brought him back to earth where he is shot by the UNIT idiots, which would have diluted the cheese factor of the end.

Good entertaining stuff, marred by a ridiculous end. Where does she think she's escaping to in a bloody bus for heaven's sake?

(Oh, and technically he's going on his 10th regeneration:

1 Hartnell - Traughton
2 Traughton - Pertwee
3 Pertwee - Baker
4 Baker - Davison
5 Davison - Baker
6 Baker - McCoy
7 McCoy - McGann
8 McGann - Eccleston
9 Eccleston - Tennant
10 Tennant - Smith

11 incarnations = 10 regenerations, and yes, you now have every right to call me a pedantic b*stard)

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Actually, when you first hear the flies, to me it was like Skippy the kangaroo had mutated. And that flying on a bus thing, anyone else feel a slight Harry Potter reference with a flying vehicle?

And no, your right, because that proves that my English 101 is really terrible.

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it was ok. entertaining but yeah it was a bit of a cheesey ending. i liked that there were some proper aliens.

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Waters of Mars looks interesting too. Some sort of sentient water perchance? A la The Abyss. Who knows, but at least it appears to be on another planet, which is always a plus.

You make a good point about Potter there, but as far as the aliens go I love all that half a conversation stuff - it's why Chewbacca works so well in Star Wars.

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The Doctor is older than 900! He's lying about his age – wasn't he at least 953 in Time and the Rani?

Personally, I think he's going through some sort of midlife crisis...

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Damn, you beat me to it (I was trying to think of a TARDIS acronym).

I thought Lee Evans was excellent, and I'm no fan either. I enjoyed the new species but felt very let down that the fly guys both died. They should have saved one, brought him back to earth where he is shot by the UNIT idiots, which would have diluted the cheese factor of the end.

Good entertaining stuff, marred by a ridiculous end. Where does she think she's escaping to in a bloody bus for heaven's sake?

(Oh, and technically he's going on his 10th regeneration:

1 Hartnell - Traughton
2 Traughton - Pertwee
3 Pertwee - Baker
4 Baker - Davison
5 Davison - Baker
6 Baker - McCoy
7 McCoy - McGann
8 McGann - Eccleston
9 Eccleston - Tennant
10 Tennant - Smith

11 incarnations = 10 regenerations, and yes, you now have every right to call me a pedantic b*stard)

You forgot Tennant-Tennant.

Also, it has been written in and out many times, so who knows at this point, but Hartnell may or may not have been incarnation #1.

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Tennant-Tennant doesn't count. He only used the energy to heal himself, and if it's lover boy you mean, then he's not even a Time Lord.

Click here to find out what the Doctor is saying when Martha skips through the video in "Human Nature".

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Tennant-Tennant doesn't count. He only used the energy to heal himself, and if it's lover boy you mean, then he's not even a Time Lord.

Click here to find out what the Doctor is saying when Martha skips through the video in "Human Nature".

When he healed himself, he completely regenerated.  He just happened to have a "handy" (sorry, bad pun) dna sample there to guide the regeneration.  There is a bit of a speech about it.

Your list also assumes that there was no regen between McGann and Eccleston.

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He didn't change every cell in his body, he simply healed every cell in his body and then dumped the energy into the hand. That's not a proper regeneration.

And if it is, and we assume that there was one between McGann and Eccleston and one other before Hartnell, then he's nearly out of "lives". He's got 13 regenerations in total (apparently).

Way to kill the franchise, Bakula Human Horn.

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He gets 13 total incarnations, 12 regens. :P

But, the Master figured out ways around it, and I assume so shall the Doctor.

Besides, we haven't even brought up Peter Cushing's role in all of this. 

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He gets 13 total incarnations, 12 regens. :P

Hoist by my own pet toads! Damn you!

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The Doctor is older than 900! He's lying about his age – wasn't he at least 953 in Time and the Rani?

Personally, I think he's going through some sort of midlife crisis...

Xanny they never give a solid figure for the age, and it keeps changing. The 2nd Doctor has said from 450 then he said he had a 500 year diary. The 4th Doctor said in Brain of Morbeus that he was around 750. Romana I said he was 759. 6th Doctor said 900 years. 7th Doctor said 753. 9th Doctor said 900 and 10th said 903. It's all over there is no way of knowing.

If the Master can get around it so can the Doctor... Of course there always is Jenny if they want to go that route.

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True, true.

Besides, we haven't even brought up Peter Cushing's role in all of this.  

Oh, that's easy. The human Doctor created in Journey's End steals a small bit of the coral which makes up the interior of the new series TARDIS, which he then grows into another TARDIS over the course of his life, speeding up the process by using wibbly-wobbly-timey-wimey technology from parallel Torchwood. For old times' sake, he gives it the form of a police box. While he's waiting the decades for ship to grow, however (it still takes quite a while, you see, even when in a bubble of artificially sped-up time), he and Rose have a family together, with him assuming the name "Dr. Who" for the sake of appearances. Eventually, however, he outlives them, an unfortunate result of being a human duplicate of a Time Lord and thus having greater physical health than the average homo sapiens. By the time the TARDIS is complete, he is left with only one companion: his granddaughter, Susan.

edit: The Roberta Tovey Susan which accompanied Cushing – not the Carole Ann Ford one. Ford's Susan was the Doctor's original granddaughter in the series' initial universe.

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True, true.

Besides, we haven't even brought up Peter Cushing's role in all of this. 

Oh, that's easy. The human Doctor created in Journey's End steals a small bit of the coral which makes up the interior of the new series TARDIS, which he then grows into another TARDIS over the course of his life, speeding up the process by using wibbly-wobbly-timey-wimey technology from parallel Torchwood. For old times' sake, he gives it the form of a police box. While he's waiting the decades for ship to grow, however (it still takes quite a while, you see, even when in a bubble of artificially sped-up time), he and Rose have a family together, with him assuming the name "Dr. Who" for the sake of appearances. Eventually, however, he outlives them, an unfortunate result of being a human duplicate of a Time Lord and thus having greater physical health than the average home sapiens. By the time the TARDIS is complete, he is left with only one companion: his granddaughter, Susan.

edit: The Roberta Tovey Susan which accompanied Cushing – not the Carole Ann Ford one. Ford's Susan was the Doctor's original granddaughter in the series' initial universe.

I am now looking at it more as that Cushing's Doctor was the more familiar Doctor on his last regeneration, taking his granddaughter out for a spin, in order to show her the ropes, for her to one day take over the family business.  After all, in this last season we did get a daughter to carry the granddaughter for him, and the Cushing films were plots from the series, with some changes.

So, our Doctor, almost ready to retire, takes granddaughter out to "relatively safe" places where he had already solved the issues in order to train her in the ways of the time lord, but tackling the issues from a different angle than the first time to avoid paradox.

But, I won't advance that theory, or poor Shepard's head might explode.   

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That all makes sense except for the fact that Cushing's Doctor was human, as was Tovey's Susan. And I don't really like the idea of Jenny being Ford's Susan's mother – I've always kind of seen the Doctor as having had a regular family before he and his natural granddaughter ended up together on Totter's Lane.

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That all makes sense except for the fact that Cushing's Doctor was human, as was Tovey's Susan. And I don't really like the idea of Jenny being Ford's Susan's mother – I've always kind of seen the Doctor as having had a regular family before he and his natural granddaughter ended up together on Totter's Lane.

Have we not seen the Doctor turn Human before?

Would a retiring Doctor not turn himself human around a young child being raised human for her own protection?

Have we not, in fact seen the Master as a young Human live until old age?

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Sure, by using the Chameleon Arch. But not only does the Arch turn a Time Lord into another species (in all currently known cases, human), it also locks up the Time Lord's consciousness within a fob watch. Donna's reaction to the biological metacrisis seems to indicate that a human body would be incapable of retaining a Time Lord's knowledge and mind, which means that if Cushing's Doctor went through the process, he wouldn't be aware of things such as "relatively safe" places and times to visit. Unless he was very selective about which memories and parts of his mind he concealed from himself, and placed them in perfect balance so that he wouldn't "burn up"...

This is fun. Next we should debate the Shalka Doctor and Atkinson's Doctor.

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Tennant's gone? He was a good doctor.

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I still miss Christoper Eccelson. It haven't been the same since he left. I have season 2 on DVD and have very little desire to watch them, whereas I was addicted to the Eccelson episodes.

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Pick your favourite Doctor from Doctor Who. Some people have opinions, so let them collide! This poll is only open for 10 days. You can change vote, and you are allowed only 3 votes per user. Thank you.

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Then cast your vote for Eccelson:

http://www.peelified.com/Futurama-Forum-5/Topic-17616-0-Your_favourite_Doctor_fro.html

EDIT: OK, I did not double post, someone merged my poll with this thread. I am particularly ticked off.

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Books watch the other Tennant series they do get better.

Tom Baker, Peter Davison and David Tennant are my choices.

Did any one notice that the 6th Doctor is missing? Where is Colin Baker?

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The list said Baker twice so I took one off.

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You could have put T. Baker and C. Baker. Two different guys. Plus we haven't seen Smith yet so there is no way for him to get any votes as there is no way to know how he is.

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Ah crud I just checked Colin and Tom. And now I can't edit it.

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Maybe we can get a mod to fix it?

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Calling all mods in the area... Add in a C. Baker under Pertwee in the poll please...

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C. Baker goes after Davison. He was the 6th Doctor.... Sorry... for correcting you so much.

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That's fine, but I already know I messed up... again.

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Obviously Tom Baker was the best Doctor.

Future Shock... you don't have to reply to every post

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TB, CE, and PD have my votes.

Speak to y'all when I'm t'other side of the mountain.

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Tom Baker was great...

SoS: How did I know that you were going to vote for those three?

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Cause I'd already told you. Probably quite a few times.

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I know you did. I was joking.... God all that climbing today must have killed you brain.

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Tom Baker, hands down.

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However, the most important Doctor is probably Troughton, if he'd messed it up then that would have been it.

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Eccleston was one of the greatest, in my opinion. He was believable as being the Doctor, and realistic considering what it was he had been through. Despite this, however, he still managed to enjoy himself as he travelled the universe. Tennant, though... Tennant is fun to watch, but he can be quite inappropriately humorous at times.

"Look at me, I'm the Doctor, running here, running there, allons-y! Timelord-gallifrey-bluebox-timewar-mypeople..."

* Tennant puts on pouty face.

"I'm serious now."

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i'm gonna miss tennant when he goes.
but the easter special it was da best

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"Look at me, I'm the Doctor, running here, running there, allons-y! Timelord-gallifrey-bluebox-timewar-mypeople..."

* Tennant puts on pouty face.

"I'm serious now."

A great epitaph for the 10th Doctor.