The family that doesn't know the meaning of the word "cancelled" - The Simpsons!

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I wasn't ranting about the real, final episode. I was ranting about how I thought even the plot outline sounded bad, at least to me. It doesn't matter whether I watched it or not to judge if I think at least the basic storyline sounds good.

I don't want to rant on the actual episode, by the way. I don't enjoy wasting my time on something that I know will be bad. If I wanted to rant on it , I would've watched it then done just so. All I wanted to do is at least see if the episode's short description sounded good, and whatever I thought, voice my opinion about it. Had It looked good to me, I'd have said so; it's just that it ended up looking bad to me, so I voiced my thoughts about that. Seems like your rant was the pointless one, seeing as you didn't think hard enough to realize that I only wanted to look at the description, and not the finished episode.
Well, since that's over, feel free to entirely disregard this and continue normal Simpsonian Discussion.

[Reply #361 on:]

When Principal Skinner says the school's best behaved pupils are going to get a free ride in a submarine, Bart works to become a model student. Meanwhile, Lisa tells Krusty to sell the foreign rights to his shows to earn more money.

Who the heck thought that this was an even relatively good idea for an episode? Seems to me that they aren't even trying at this point.

When Principal Skinner says the school's best behaved pupils are going to get a free ride in a submarine, Bart works to become a model student. Meanwhile, Lisa tells Krusty to sell the foreign rights to his shows to earn more money.

Ugh, this one sound terrible.

Yes, you were ranting on the plot, but you WERE also ranting on the real, final episode. Especially if you're just going to blatantly say that they're not even trying at this point, because of an episode you didn't see. So please, just stop. If you even try to carry this one it'll be as pointless as my old rants with tnuk.

[Reply #362 on:]

Guys, quit it. We don't want this thread to devolve into another spam-fest.

(Waits for TNUK to come in and point out how hypocritical that is despite the fact that I only said it because I have already learned the errors of my ways )

[Reply #363 on:]

I think right now tnuk has better things to do.....

But seriously, I'm pretty much done with that. I hope this kid gets the message though and cuts it out, instead of trying to be the little philosopher and try to prove me wrong. Which he's already failed at, miserably.

[Reply #364 on:]

Alright, so it's true that I would've needed to see the episode in order to say 'They aren't even trying'. I'll admit to that. But all the other things were criticisms of the short-and-sweet plot, not the full episode.

As a final remark, I'd like to remind you that you are the one that started this little discussion. Telling me to cut it out when you started the entire conversation is pretty stupid.

[Reply #365 on:]

You're both overreacting and getting at each other's throats over nothing. Both of you go sit in the corner until you've calmed down.

[Reply #366 on:]

I watched season 16 of The Simpsons yesterday. There's only like 2 ok episodes out of 21. Pretty lame.

[Reply #367 on:]

Firstly, The Kid Is Alright was pretty average and basically plot we've already seen several times.

Secondly, Yellow Subterfuge was just terrible. Now, the new episodes usually are not good at all, when compared to classics, but this was a mess, it hardly even felt like Simpsons. At some point I forgot if I was watching the Simpsons episode with no actual storyline or Family Guy. Even the character animation looked little odd (or was I imagining). Couple funny jokes, though and Skinner-cowboy thing was quite good.

[Reply #368 on:]

Guys, quit it. We don't want this thread to devolve into another spam-fest.

We don't?

[Reply #369 on:]

You're both overreacting and getting at each other's throats over nothing. Both of you go sit in the corner until you've calmed down.

When you're 15, going on 16, you don't sit in corners. You keep on fightin'

But whatever, my point was made. Don't make this any bigger than it has to be MRM.

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Don't make this any bigger than it has to be MRM.

Don't worry man; I made my points, as well, so there's no need to continue the argument. 

So, I actually am considering to watch at least one episode from this season, just to see how things are going for the show. Which episode from this season has been the best, in your opinion? If I'm going to watch one, I'd like it to be at least somewhat good, after all. What do you guys think?

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Ohh, THIS season.

Well, that's a toughie. I'd go with the funeral one, and maybe YOLO

Season 16 would have to be Heartbroke kid, and Doomsday. The rest were just "pretty lame", as homerjaysimpson described it.

[Reply #372 on:]

Four Regrettings and a Funeral, it's fairly good.

[Reply #373 on:]

I'd recommend The Heartbroke Kid. I found it to be one of the only decent/good eps from Season 16.

Fat Man and Little Boy is much better (apart from Gladwell).

"Get bent, everyone!"

[Reply #374 on:]

MRM - I'd go for the new Treehouse of Horror. One of the most epic opening sequences EVER, and the rest of the episode ain't all that bad for new Simpsons standards. Lots of laughs the whole way through, at least.

Good episodes from season 16:
Fat Man and Little Boy, Midnight Rx, Future-Drama, Don't Fear the Roofer, The Heartbroke Kid, Thank God it's Doomsday.

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"Yellow Subterfuge" was particularly awful. I enjoyed one or two jokes such as the buried whoopee cushions one, but overall it was just an absolute mess with two plots that had absolutely nothing to do with each other, moments that were paced like jokes but just didn't seem remotely like they were actually jokes - as if the writers left a gap to put a joke in, later, and forgot about it, such as when Homer showed up drinking a pig gulp - and overall, the entire episode just didn't seem to have a clue what it was trying to be.

[Reply #376 on:]

Bits like the Jamaican Itchy & Scratchy were particularly awful. New Simpsons is generally pretty tolerable, despite how bland/lame it all is, but this episode was truly just fucking painful to watch.

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I decided to watch this latest Simpsons episode, after last weeks atrocity. So far, this episode is impressing me alot. Some good gags, and a couple of awful gags. But this was actually pretty decent, I really liked it. Not like how I liked "Holidays of Future Passed", but I liked it as a 7/10 kind of episode.

[Reply #378 on:]

I thought it was really sub-par. Which is a shame, as the story itself had some promise, but as usual, it was totally botched in the execution. I didn't laugh out loud once... I think, at best, I smirked at a few of the on-screen puns, but even then, they were waaaayyyy overdone. And the ending could've at least had some more explanation beyond "everyone sings Christmas carols and is now happy for some reason." Ugh, what a fucking mess.

[Reply #379 on:]

It was little like many things happen without properly composing a plot, again, but it was funny (with every other joke, that wasn't stupid) and quite good. At least opening sequence was greatly overdone. Overall it felt like a big improvement to last one.

What were those license plates in the credits about?

[Reply #380 on:]

Yeah, that episode went nowhere. Felt like it was written by committee...a bunch of jokes that didn't really flow very well, and the story just never came together.

Too bad...this season started reasonably well, I thought. I thought the show was on the verge of a mild comeback.

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I've been rewatching season 17 (I haven't seen literally any of these episodes since they aired) and honestly I'm surprised by how many episodes I don't hate. Don't get me wrong, there's definitely some atrocious ones so far: The Girl Who Slept Too Little and See Homer Run are huge messes. But ones like Marge's Son Poisoning and We're On The Road To D'ohwhere have their charm, at least moreso than they did when I first saw them, and I'm sure they benefit from comparison to the newest seasons.

Looking forward at the episodes I haven't watched yet, I do see a few that I remember out-and-out despising...namely My Fair Laddy, The Wettest Stories Ever Told (why did they need THREE trilogy episodes in one season, lazy bastards), and Marge And Homer Turn A Couple Play. I do remember liking The Seemingly Never-Ending Story and Bart Has Two Mommies though. That said, it's been so long since I've seen them and I was much younger, so I expect to have new opinions this time around.

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See Homer Run is a great episode, imo. The ending is lovely and the jokes about the fridge magnet and Lisa's drawings are hilarious.

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I've been rewatching season 17 (I haven't seen literally any of these episodes since they aired) and honestly I'm surprised by how many episodes I don't hate. Don't get me wrong, there's definitely some atrocious ones so far: The Girl Who Slept Too Little and See Homer Run are huge messes. But ones like Marge's Son Poisoning and We're On The Road To D'ohwhere have their charm, at least moreso than they did when I first saw them, and I'm sure they benefit from comparison to the newest seasons.

Looking forward at the episodes I haven't watched yet, I do see a few that I remember out-and-out despising...namely My Fair Laddy, The Wettest Stories Ever Told (why did they need THREE trilogy episodes in one season, lazy bastards), and Marge And Homer Turn A Couple Play. I do remember liking The Seemingly Never-Ending Story and Bart Has Two Mommies though. That said, it's been so long since I've seen them and I was much younger, so I expect to have new opinions this time around.

Yeah. Season 17 has quite a few episodes that were watchable for me too. It's probably my second favourite Modern Simpsons season, although that's not saying much at all.

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What? I mean I kind of agree with the plot going nowhere once again, but I still think the first act was really good, the kind of good I haven't seen in a New Simpsons episode since quite a while.

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Justin Bieber tweeted that he's going to be in The Simpsons again on the new episode on January 5.

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Justin Bieber tweeted that he's going to be in The Simpsons again on the new episode on January 5.

Ugh.

On another depressing note (albeit for entirely different reasons):

http://www.avclub.com/article/the-simpsons-had-another-splitsecond-tribute-to-th-106582

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On a happy (and late) note:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/18/justin-bieber-retiring_n_4464964.html?ir=Entertainment

To stay on topic:

I didn't watch much of the Christmas episode, only about 10 or 11 minutes.

[Reply #388 on:]

I just watched the last Simpsons episode. It had some good moments but overall was rather pedestrian.

[Reply #389 on:]

I just watched the last Simpsons episode. It had some good moments but overall was rather pedestrian.

Same Crisp.
Also, welcome to PEEL!

[Reply #390 on:]

I still find the first act to be particularly strong.

[Reply #391 on:]

The only two jokes I recall enjoying were "I don't have to clean up the dog doos!" and the Life of 'Pu.

[Reply #392 on:]

For Modern-Day Simpsons Standards.

Which would translate into: Mediocre/close to Decent for Classic-Simpsons. I haven't really watched it since it aired, so I don't exactly remembered what joke I enjoyed the best, other than the one with Wiggum in the big snowball. It felt like a very Classic Simpsons-ey joke to me. But the first act definitely was an improvement over many of the new episodes' first acts. I mean this one introduced the main plot of the episode pretty well, unlike others that go nowhere until the second act. Biggest Problem, was that the rest of the episode couldn't build it up to a good (by Classic Standards) episode. But it was good for Modern Simpsons standards, although it doesn't say much.

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The Seemingly Never-Ending Story and Bart Has Two Mommies definitely weren't at all as good as I recalled. I did still like the basic ideas used for the plot of each though, with the stories-within-stories format of the former and Rod and Todd learning self-confidence in the latter. Million Dollar Abie and Kiss Kiss Bang Bangalore were both cring-inducingly awful.

The Wettest Stories Ever Told wasn't as bad as I recalled, the first segment is especially decent. I think I was thrown off originally by the fact that it's an extraneous three-segment episode for season 17 and that it's about a completely random topic that isn't set up well by the connecting story, but because of that it also allows for some okay parody and clever gags.

Also, I thought Girls Just Want To Have Sums was a legitimately good episode for the season.

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I'm back! Not going to explain the long winded and embarrassing story about why I was gone so long. Anyway, I got season 9 for Christmas and I've Ben browsing through in no particular order. " Natural Born Kissers" is my favorite so far. I like that they took a risk with the episode.

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Fox actually called the producers a few days before "Natural Born Kissers" aired and said they were having second thoughts about airing the episode. Luckily, they went through with it anyway.

Fun fact: NBK is one of the few Simpsons episodes to be rated TV-14 in the United States.

By the way, after you finish watching the season, make sure to watch it again with the audio commentaries on. You'll find out a lot about the show by listening to them.

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Good to see you back, CL!

Season 9 has generated some mixed opinions from fans due to its inconsistency, but I think it's pretty damn good for the most part. The City of New York vs. Homer Simpson and Lisa the Simpson are probably my favourite (though the former hasn't aged well, for obvious reasons).

Fox actually called the producers a few days before "Natural Born Kissers" aired and said they were having second thoughts about airing the episode. Luckily, they went through with it anyway.

Fun fact: NBK is one of the few Simpsons episodes to be rated TV-14 in the United States.

Actually, there are quite a few episodes with TV-14 ratings.

Over in Australia, that episode (along with Weekend at Burnsie's and Treehouse of Horror XV) was rated M, meaning it can't be played before 8pm. Funny enough, the respective DVDs for the first two only received PG ratings, which leads me to believe it was largely a marketing stunt. I've also heard that The Cartridge Family was banned in the UK for a while, too.

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Fox actually called the producers a few days before "Natural Born Kissers" aired and said they were having second thoughts about airing the episode. Luckily, they went through with it anyway.

Fun fact: NBK is one of the few Simpsons episodes to be rated TV-14 in the United States.

Actually, there are quite a few episodes with TV-14 ratings.

Yeah, but compared to the 538 episodes of the show that have already aired, is twenty-three really a whole lot?

On a side note, what the fuck happened to the Simpsons wiki? I don't remember it ever looking like that...

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There's more than one Simpsons wiki. Maybe you're thinking of simpsons.wikia.com?

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There's more than one Simpsons wiki. Maybe you're thinking of simpsons.wikia.com?

Nah. I used to read the Simpsons Wikia, but stopped when I discovered Wikisimpsons. From what I've seen, Wikisimpsons has more information (for example, the episode credits pages actually extend beyond the writer and the director).

Anyway, I'm certain that Wikisimpsons used to look way different than it does now.