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cartoonlover27

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Man this thread is dead.
How do peelers feel about the Farnsworth/Mom situation? Personally, I think it adds a bit to the Professor's character, and it is sometimes fun to see, (particularly in Mother's Day and Bender's Game.)
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Beamer

DOOP Secretary

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I've always been amused by it (though not sure how anyone could "ship" for such a fucked-up pairing). It adds a little depth to both characters, and like QNF said, it definitely has its story purposes.  I'm also a really big fan of Mother's Day, though apparently I'm in the minority on that one.
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Beamer

DOOP Secretary

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True, but I always considered "shipping" to mean that the viewers held some sort of emotional investment in that particular relationship, as opposed to just enjoying it for laughs.
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cartoonlover27

Professor

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True, but I always considered "shipping" to mean that the viewers held some sort of emotional investment in that particular relationship, as opposed to just enjoying it for laughs.
Well....I know people who ship couples for a different kind of investment.  But anyway, I think you couldn't seriously ship then unless you set it when their relationship was actually worth something, ie when they were both " younger" adults.
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Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #13 on: 12-11-2013 13:26 »
« Last Edit on: 12-11-2013 13:30 »
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Aren't all the relationships concluded now that the series has ended?
In a renewal, the writers might still go back to the "Will you got out with me, Leela?" "No, Fry, I told you we are just friends" status. Yet, I doubt it. Recalling the "Meanwhile" events in a new episode seems too much of a keruffle. (Rebirth's "We were on a ship flying through a wormhole" theme was much leaner). So, to cut a long story short: A potential new season will probably keep Fry and Leela as lovers, and just cancel out the proposal. I'd always hoped to see Leela and Amy get together.
They did so in "Bender's Game", the greatest of the movies, and an overall series Top 10 episode.
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0nuki

Poppler

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you guys dont have a clue
meanwhile might have had fry & leela get married but he was forced into it. he's my man. i'm going to get him someday. show him what he's missing
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Xanfor

DOOP Secretary

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I am disappointed that the Zapp/Michelle relationship never went anywhere materialized.
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MeatablePie

Professor

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I'm all for the ship of Amy and the Bisque Guy.
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Tonya Rodriguez
Crustacean

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I ship Amy and Bender. They were a cute couple while they lasted.
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DannyJC13

DOOP Secretary

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I've seen plenty of drawings and paintings and whatnot of Fry and Bender in a more-than-friends relationship on deviantArt. Nothing like rule 34, obviously. Here, have some examples.
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Gorky

DOOP Secretary

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Thing is there are a lot of women and men let's be honest who would love to have a boyfriend like Fry, and would want to help him build up his confidence and talents and acheive his massive potential. A bit of time in the gym, some evening classes and some new clothes and bingo! The boy is someone you can easily take home to your mother.
Isn't this basically the premise of "Parasites Lost," except that Leela doesn't have to put any of the work into improving Fry because the worms did it for her? And doesn't the end of PL demonstrate that Fry is in fact capable of self-improvement, and Leela is the motivating factor for those efforts at self-improvement--even if she is not explicitly "helping" him to be "better"? It seems to me the show has planted its flag firmly on the side of "Fry needs to change, but it's not Leela's job to do it for him." I mean, I still think that's an inherently problematic view: ideally, Leela would love Fry for who he is.* But I also don't buy the idea that the role of the woman in a heterosexual partnership is to "fix" the man. (I also don't think that a man's worth is tied to extrinsic things like how he dresses or how jacked his body is or what have you--though obviously society tells us that a man's stock will go up if he conforms to specific standards of appearance, dress, financial stability, educational attainment, etc.) *I think that's ultimately where the show lands, in "Into the Wild Green Yonder": Leela accepts that "you're you, that's all I need to know" and subsequently declares her love for Fry. Honestly, ItWGY subverts the original run's argument that Fry needed to change to "make" Leela love him: it's only when he's doing something genuinely nice and caring for Leela without explicitly hoping she'll fall in love with him that she finally admits that, hey, she loves him.
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Gorky

DOOP Secretary

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I mentioned this in the episode review thread, but it's not clear to me from "The Impossible Stream" where Fry and Leela's relationship "officially" stands, i.e., are they still engaged? The various promos make it seem like they'll soon be moving in together, so I'm sure we'll get a clearer sense of their status in the coming weeks, but I just wanted to register my confusion here.
As for "The Impossible Stream": While I continue to be pleased (as I was in season seven) that Fry and Leela are now firmly and officially a couple, I kind of hated how their relationship was written in this episode. The whole "I'll never support your dreams again" thing was such a lazy, tired joke—like, I get it, but I don't like it. Leela wailing on Bender for making fun of Fry also didn't land for me; I guess it was supposed to be sweet, like she was defending Fry's honor or something, but it struck me as somewhat out-of-character. Leela and Bender have an existing friendship beyond her status as Fry's girlfriend, so reducing their dynamic to Leela as Fry's Defender and Bender as Fry's Tormentor just rubbed me the wrong way.
I understand that this episode was only tangentially about Fry and Leela's relationship, but I guess that's sort of the point: while I'm generally fond of those episodes that take the 'ship as their starting point—"The Late Philip J. Fry," "A Farewell to Arms," "Fun on a Bun," "Fry and Leela's Big Fling"—those episodes that are less about Fry and Leela's romance and more about their day-to-day lives together sometimes falter for me, and this was one of those times. Surely there is a balance to be struck between "Fry and Leela are Just Friends" (which bugged me in season six) and "Fry and Leela are Deeply in Love and Their Every Interaction Must Convey That Deep Love" (which I felt like we were getting in this episode, at least with Leela), but I'm not quite sure what that looks like. Maybe I'll know it when I see it.
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