Battlestar Galactica

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Originally posted by Nixorbo:
Kat was a bitch

Like I said: out-Kara, Kara.   

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I been watching BSG all morn.  I missed the season up for showing on SciFi channel the first time around.  Now, I have the chance and I'm doped up on Niquil this time around and keep passing out ever so often... then I wake up and exclaim... 

  Wot da frak!

  I missed how that Zena gal got all religiosy and wad up with the Oracle?  Man, I'm lost... again... about the BSG details and perticulars!  Oh, man, and I thought I'd "have a handle" on what is going on and be all up to date by tonight's season four premier episode at ten p.m.!  NOT! 

VEOH may suffice my loss.

edit-  I found a better link for we BSG fans:    http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/

They got a game you can play.  Also, look to watch full episodes right on your computer screen if you missed the episode on SciFI.
 

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Wow, that was one hell of an ending to season 3.  A bit of s lump in midseason, but the beginning (up till Collaborators) and ending (Rapture and onwards) was excellent, perhaps "A Day in the Life" marginally lower than the rest.

Some random thoughts...

Loved Tyrol's line in Rapture: "Welcome home, Mr. President." :: pistol-whipped::

Not so sure I buy Balthar penning that book about the emerging social divide into classes, unless it was with a purely selfish motive. However I could totally believe a guy like Zarek writing it. Afterall he made almost the same analysis back in "Colonial Day". To be honest I'm somewhat disappointed how Zarek has developed. The first few appearances he was a charismatic, unconventional, idealistic populist with a flair for the political game, basically the perfect foil for Roslin. Particular after "Colonial Day" where Roslin said "we're going to have business as usual" while Zarek advocated to completely redefine the system. "Cobol's Last Gleaming" and season 2 more or less turned him into a thug. "Collaborator" was a nice return to form, have him point out the bleak future for his son to Tyrol would further reinvigorate his character. Then again, that way Roslin couldn't fly off her handle when the guy from the refinery ship mentions The Book.

Oh, and let's hope Tyrol can keep Cally from knowing the truth.  Then again there is material for a serious character arch for the two of them if she does.

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Shoot!  Scar just turned on Anders!  Nooooooooo!  I hope Anders can overcome Scar's affect.  Let me reinterate,,, shoot!

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Ok Gaius definitely needs his own spinoff, the man just has fantastic adventures! 

"... right."

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Poor Gaius; cut himself shaving 

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  Wot da frak!!!!

Baltar is playing it always by ear.  He use to be strictly self centered and shallow as a brilliant scientist on Caprica before the cylons rained down their apocolypse.  Now he walks the fine line for his very life.  Every decision is for the reason that he is put full on at a precipice.  He does not want to be pushed.   He tries to save anyone near him at said precipice.  It never really looks that way to anyone from a distance.  He is an "underdog" so to speak.  Who da thunk it!  Baltar... a hero.  The world for Capricans is so topsy turvy.  And...   

  Wot da frak!!!!!

  Starbuck think she's only been gone for a couple of unaccosted hours when, in fact, evryone has morned her death, moved on and bee promated over a two month period?  Cha!

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-I practicaly fast-fwd all baltar's parts.. i cant stand that harem-chorus of silly mindless religious followers.. alltought he was better than ussual, he was less asshole than in late season 2 / start season 3.

-WEEEEEE! The Space Park got saved!! weeee again.. i love that ship.. it will still be arround for a while.... The Pixys loss was a bit dissapointing.. a raider smashes into its engines and it blows up inmediately? i toeught it was going to be work of missiles..

-I hope they explain about Starbuck's Viper.. because its made clear its not the same we saw in Maelstrom plus its brand new.. if we get picky .. in "Crossroads 2" it didnt even had name plate and here it did.. that surely is a CGI mistake

-Lee hanging up his wings... well... dissapointing.. but is something new.. lest see how the manage that..at least its not because he is angree with his father and they appear to be at peace again

-Now they pretend to tell us that Cylons cant know who the final 5 are (wich is made clear in the last season) but now they can "feel" they close? What about New Caprica? They had ALL 4 of them down there for months , Tight even was incarcelated and they didnt feel a damn thing..
dont know.. they have a lot to explain.. the problem is that they usually left a lot in the way


The ep have the feelin of so many things unexplained.. for example WHAT THE H DID POWERED DOWN THE FLEET IN THE IONIC NEBULA? They even dont mention that again and it was implied in the ending of season 3 that it was non-natural because all ships powered-down and up at the same time (Galactica being a millitary vessel is shielded against EMP pulses that could do that).
they do ask how they found them but they dont explain it.. and it will be ok if they explain it in further eps but i have the bad feeling that they will not

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Originally posted by Javier Lopez:
-I hope they explain about Starbuck's Viper.. because its made clear its not the same we saw in Maelstrom plus its brand new.. if we get picky .. in "Crossroads 2" it didnt even had name plate and here it did.. that surely is a CGI mistake

OR IS IT, javier?!  This is the begginning of the very last season ever of BSG. I have the distinct impression that BSG  eill be all sewn up and packaged ever so purty complete with a shiny bow before the finale episode aires this yoear of two thousand ans eight!  Just sit back, make yourself quite comfortable, because I predict a bummpy ride full of wonders to the "frakkin'" end!  Oh, yeah, baby!  This will be a ride of thrills this completely last season of BSG .  Just you wait and see, JL, mark my enthusiastic words!  You'll love it!

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That SciFi HD logo is annoying.

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Get use to it, ZJ.  The telly is going HD all the way February, 2009.  And  the tv exeecutives will be so proud of themselves for having accomplihed this task that they will splash big, loud and glaring logos all over the screen for months and possibly years to come...

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Well i really hope so.. but i think they will left many thinks unexplained..

For example..
in "Hero"..

Who shot down Bulldog's StealthStar fighter??
One may thing the Cylons..
but look at the sequence carefully:

-Bulldog crosses the armistice line
-An unknown ship jumps near bulldog fighter and shots it down..
-The mysterious unseen ship jumps out
-Two other ships jumps in again far away and set course for bulldog's wounded fighter

It doesnt make sense that the first ship jumps out after firing, when 2 more ships were in way..unless it didnt want to be catch up there or being ID by the colonials... the later 2 ships didnt care to be ID so they are 99.9% sure Cylons and didnt tried to hide from Valkyre's dradis ..

So who the first ship was.. was Tauron terrorist? was one humanoid Cylon in a stolen or private ship? was a traitor? was a Cylon after wall? Its very interesting.. but i thing they will NEVER speak of that again..
And with that some other points that i dont renember... i hope they explain that many things like the Cylons so called "Plan"

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Read an interesting theory on the Fifth Cylon on the RvB forums - how about Starbuck's father?  We don't know anything about him, do we, other than he buggered off?  It would also fit my theory that the Fifth Cylon is of comperable age to Cavill/Tigh.

Here's the thing, though, let's say the Fifth Cylon is in fact Starbuck's father.  He would simply HAVE to be played by Dirk Benedict.  I've never even seen an episode of the original Galactica and that thought gives me a raging fangasm.

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Nah, RDM has stated that the final cylon has been in the series since the beginning and is a known character. We've never heard anything about Papi Starbuck, let alone seen him.

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He also said the Pegasus wasn't going to get blowed up, didn't he?

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Originally posted by Nixorbo:
He also said the Pegasus wasn't going to get blowed up, didn't he?

Not exactly... he said the Peggy was going to be arround for a while..

when Pegasus and "Resurrection Ship" aired almost eveyone did the pararell with the original series and asumed Pegasus was going to be destroyed in that battle..

then it was funny because as you renember every time a battle could ensue.. people say "thats its.. this is when Pegasus will go down".. and it keeped surviving and surviving .. like in the hand of the captain.
Then when Gina got the nuke.. everyone deduced she would use the nuke to destroy Pegasus and yet she ended using it to destroy... another vessel.

Finally Peggy bought it in the battle of new caprica and yet it was a decided and calculated loss.. and it was predictible because is the same way she dissapeared like in the original series.. she made a suicide run against more than one Basestar to buy time to colonials to slip-by and get away..

tought in the original series aparently Pegasus was not destroyed and was due to return if the series would continued (Galactica 1980 IS NOT included)

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Ok, what the hell? Two two two times the Baltar?

Admittedly, Baltar and Baltwo are hilarious together.

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By the way.. anoyone noticed that Galactica lost a main gun in the Ionic Nebula battle?

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Racetrack FTW

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FINAL CYLON SPECULATION ALERT
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This picture from The Passage leads me to believe the Final Cylon is female:



Looks like (Unknown),  Tyrol, Tori, Tigh and Anders to me.

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Scary picture.

I don't remember it though. Who drew it?

Btw, if you haven't already, don't focus on the faces and you'll see the black stripes are people walking around.

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It's from The Passage. Since I missed that episode for some reason, I couldn't comment on it. According to the Wikipedia entry for the episode:

 

Elsewhere at the Cylon fleet, Gaius Baltar grows concerned about the strange behavior of Number Three, who has been periodically wandering off. Wondering what she could possibly be up to, he learns from Number Six that her behavior is causing concern among the other Cylons as well. Baltar confronts Three, learning that she keeps committing suicide and resurrecting, over and over again. During her resurrection, Three says she sees the five humanoid Cylons that have yet to be revealed, even drawing pictures of them. Baltar, still wondering if he could be a Cylon himself, asks if he is one of the remaining five, however, Three says her visions are muddled and she can give no further details.

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Dont know if it can help..
When the shot of D'anna present nefore the final hooded five.. when the scene was filmed they used extras (obviously) and they were 3 females and 2 males.. (wich would put Cylons in 6 males vs 6 females).. now we know that they are at least 3 males and 1 woman.. so now there is more men than women.. i think last should be a woman or it would be seriously unbalanced

Final 5 especulation with months old possible spoiler estatements from RDM:

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We have at least 2 separate estatements from RDM that neither Adama,Roslin and Thrace are Cylons..
first Thrace was declared 100% non-cylon from beggining.. and RDM said months ago that he discarted Adama and Roslin to be Cylons because he thinks that would ruin the history (and i agree)..
the second is the famous "Last dinner" pic where many characters can be seen and acording to RDM none of them are the final Cylon..
I only hope he is NOT not telling lies. because that would be a WRONG way to surprise..apart from cheating

BTW: They are repairing the Space Park now.. and poor Galactica looks more beaten than ever.. that Battlestar has been worst the cubits it cost many times ..specialy after seeing how Columbia desintegrated with aparently less damage.. but in other forums it has been speculated that colonials introduced some sort of safety measure after the Columbia dissaster to avoid such catastrophic loss.. evidences are that splited Battlestar in the miniseries.. the Valkyrie type Battlestars in Razor that get nuked and split in hald but dont blow up and

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Pegasus that did blow up after collide but even so didnt blew up like Columbia did[/spoilers]

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Well accourding to RDM (in an issue of the Radio times), in the Last supper picture, the space between Tigh and Lee is where the final model would be.

so my guess from it probably being female and someone who has been in the series form the first episode, is Dualla.

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Well, if indeed the final Cylon isn't in the picture, there's only four people that I could see as candidates for the final cylon:

-Dr Cottle
-Lt Gaeta
-Dualla
-Zarek

What makes me think it might be Zarek is that the other three were all onboard Galactica when they jumped into the Ionian Nebula, and proceeded to follow the music to the room and discover them to be Cylons. I would assume that the 5th would have been drawn to the same room, but if he/she wasn't on the ship, then it would explain why he/she wasn't in the room with the 4.

Then again, with all the female arguments, Dualla would be the only candidate. And with the empty space right next to Lee (her ex-Husband), it would make sense...

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Welcome to the dark side, Rob.

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My prediction is Starbuck's mother.  Not quite as good as the Starbuck's-father-as-played-by-Dirk-Benedict theory, but one that does have its own charms.

Unrelated: I made this for another forum where someone mentioned that the one tyrannical law he would agree with would be forcing people to procreate 24/7:



"We'll need an army of super-virile men scoring 'round the clock.  I'll do my part.  Tigh, clear my schedule."

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Originally posted by Nasty Pasty:
Then again, with all the female arguments, Dualla would be the only candidate. And with the empty space right next to Lee (her ex-Husband), it would make sense...

Plus the other couples in the picture is also placed next to eachother.

Originally I liked the idea if the final Cylon was either Helo or Cally. Cylons can procreate, and they don't even know it. But Helo is already in the picture and placing Cally between Lee and Tigh would be odd.

I'd probably put my money on Zarek. Mostly because there's already an overabundance of colonial military vs colonial civilians in the picture (and, except for Tigh, all civilians are one the left side of Six and the military on the right) which Zarek would alleviate. Similarly within the Final Five: the military side of Tyrol and Tigh will be balanced by Tori and Zarek, with Anders halfway between both spheres. Finally, of the candidates his revelation as a Cylon would have the largest impact (qua his position as Vice President, underworld connections and past actions) on the show.

Apollo returns as a Cylon, come on that's irony.

Edit: could also explain why D'Anna apologized to one of the white figures in her vision; she suddenly realized they'd placed a fellow Cylon on the death list back on New Caprica.

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Originally posted by Teral:
could also explain why D'Anna apologized to one of the white figures in her vision; she suddenly realized they'd placed a fellow Cylon on the death list back on New Caprica.

Either that or she felt bad that they gouged out the eye of one of the Final Five.

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Well THAT was depressing.

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Start of Episode:   

15 Minutes into Episode:   

30 Minutes into Episode:   

45 Minutes into Episode:      

Conclusion of Episode:           

Forecast for Tomorrow Morning:   

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You had me at "depressing". Now I'm not even sure I want to "acquire" this episode.

Don't know if this have been posted yet: Frakking Toasters webcomic, today "How To Get Your Way Kara Thace-Style".

@Nix: Yeah, that crossed my mind too, but I assumed she was addressing the final cylon in that shot. As it is I'm betting all on Zarek ... hmmm, maybe with a small side wager on Cally per the above "toasters can procreate irony".

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Originally posted by Nasty Pasty:
Start of Episode:     

15 Minutes into Episode:   

30 Minutes into Episode:     

45 Minutes into Episode:       

Conclusion of Episode:             

Forecast for Tomorrow Morning:     

Quoted for truth.

Also, re: next week's episode: Ellen was an older Six?

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Second for truth

Now I think of it. Looking at the picture, the composition would work if the missing person was whispering into Lee's ear, which puts Zarek in the forefront in my mind.

edit- now I feel all silly. If I had given the person next to Roselin a closer look I would not of thought it was D'Anna instead of an older looking Six. So Two Six's in the picture...wonder what that could mean.

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Originally posted by wu_konguk:
Second for truth

Now I think of it. Looking at the picture, the composition would work if the missing person was whispering into Lee's ear, which puts Zarek in the forefront in my mind.

That's a very good thought. It would also reflect what's going on it the original Da Vinci painting. Oh it's gotta be Zarek...

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Well.. that was depressing..

i wasnt especting that so soon in the final season..

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Tory's turning into a Cylon bitch doenst seem natural.. specially after seeing how the other 3 continue to be the same "good" ones.. Tory's was worst than "Cylon" ..she gave a good speech about them not being evil to then murder Cally in treason

the BaseStars fighting among them was too short but great BTW.. and it curious the Demetrius carring the Vipers and Raptors on top...

BTW: In the scene where the BaseStars appear when Cavil's fleet jumps in.. the Orion's belt can be seen in the background clearly..
that means they are really close to earth

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Originally posted by wu_konguk:
Second for truth

Thirded. The reviews said it was depressing, and they were right. The Cally/Tyrol thing was going to happen at some point, but I'd hoped they did something else when she found out, maybe something involving Helo and Athena?

Now I guess we know why Tyrol is alone in the Last Supper picture. I wonder if the knife means anything regarding the absence of  Tory?

Then again at least Cally got an interesting episode for her sendoff, particularly liked how Cally heard Tyrol's voice in the last scene in the compartment.

Also a much welcome return to form for Zarek. 

Weapons locker 1701D? Not exactly subtle, but nice nonetheless.


   

edit- now I feel all silly. If I had given the person next to Roselin a closer look I would not of thought it was D'Anna instead of an older looking Six. So Two Six's in the picture...wonder what that could mean.

The one in the middle could be Head Six. Balthar is the only one who unquestionably focus on her. The Six (Natalie?) behind Roslin and Athena/Helo could be looking at eachother.

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Originally posted by Nixorbo:
Well THAT was depressing.

Indeed it was too sad   

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I really Think Adama should think in putting security cameras in the launch tubes..

Also i DONT like the "conveniently empty" launch tubes area.. its a busy starship with only one of two flight pods and now stuffed of fighters from Pegasus and Galactica, surelly more than 100..  same happened in Collaborators.. i cant believe you cant such moment with no risk of somebody steping in..

Also there is a MONUMENTAL MISTAKE in the launch tube.. Cally looks throught a window...
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in the SIDE of the tube
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WHAT THE FRAKK WHERE THEY THINKING!!

As you know the launch tubes run transversal under the landing pad in the flight pod..they are next each other with a launch officer cabin each 4 tubes.. they are NOT next to space ever.. not even the first or last tube are .. they are embebed within the flight pod..

At least is nice to see RDM contradicing himself... yet again..

As you know in "Tigh me up tigh me down" we see the front observation lounge.. wich is a big window in the front of the ship. RDM said that was the only window in the entire ship but in all shots we see plenty of windows in the front section.. between the upper and lower structures of the Battlestar head..  now he sais that someone decided to put a tiny pointless window in a vulnerable area?..

So terribe VFX mistake there.. better to ignore a mague put a magical window there..

more stupid me teories about the big sad event on the ep (how much time should we keeping the spoiler tag?)

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At the end Adama was talking with Tyrol.. most probably about Cally's death.. that means they would had found her body floating.. wich is curious since in Collaborators they didnt found those airlocked throught the tubes and Cally simply missing.. specially after such agression to Tyrol and all those jealousy matters would mean she could simply get away to a civ ship.. but no.. they knew she was dead and that means they found her body.. maybe she hit Colonial 1's window..or entered the open section of the Space Park 

Thats dissgusting i know..

I didnt liked Cally much in the first 2 seasons.. that improved in 3rd ..but that's because she wasnt arround much.. still i think she is missused and dont understood why she left so soon in the final season.. you can left in other seasons if you want to make another work/series.. but lefting in the start of the final season of one of the best sci-fi shows ever..

Wonder also if they know thay the tube was actionated from the cabin ..wich implyes clearly she was murdered and not suicide

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