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KitKatBar-Fry

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« on: 11-07-2006 16:10 »

Erm, was somebody appointed to make this new thread? Sorry if there was(!)  frown
I made the thread with the most popular-looking name.  smile
Anyone wanna start us off, eh?
jle1993

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« Reply #1 on: 11-07-2006 16:17 »

I feel really sorry for Leela, everyone has a dig at her for making Fry feel bad, but I think she's scared of her own feelings. Poor Leela...
KitKatBar-Fry

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« Reply #2 on: 11-07-2006 16:32 »

Yah...I can sort of relate to Leela in that aspect. It took me a really long time for me to find a nice guy who wasn't a jerk about my height. (He's 6"3, so he's an inch taller than me) For a while I even stopped dating altogether. And then I met him, and although I was still kinda jitterish, he turned out to be a real sweetheart.
jle1993

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« Reply #3 on: 11-07-2006 16:37 »

 I keep getting guys who cheat on me, so I can relate to Leela like that. No wonder she's worried, if she likes Fry and he's a jerk it'll break her heart.
KitKatBar-Fry

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« Reply #4 on: 11-07-2006 16:53 »

Yah, it would. But we all trust that Fry would never do that to her.
coldangel

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« Reply #5 on: 11-07-2006 22:30 »

If one male is a jerk then surely they all must be. We are all the same after all.
any1else

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« Reply #6 on: 11-08-2006 01:13 »

All people are jerks; male, female or alien.
Fry doesn't really try to hide it though.
Isn't that something people want in a significant other? Someone honest?

 
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Originally posted by jle1993:
I keep getting guys who cheat on me, so I can relate to Leela like that.
I've never understood this 'cheating' thing. If someone doesn't just want to be with one person - don't be with anybody. I would have thought it simple. They should just say "Hey, I'm not interested in a stable relationship with you or anything, because next week I'll probably meet someone else I'll like, and then I'll probably move on from them a week after that so..y'know." See, honesty. Surely it'd work...
coldangel

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« Reply #7 on: 11-08-2006 01:31 »

 
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Originally posted by any1else:
All people are jerks; male, female or alien.
Fry doesn't really try to hide it though.
Isn't that something people want in a significant other? Someone honest?

Ha, this somewhat mirrors Cale Black's oafish comparison of political ideologies at the end of my novel:
“Ha.” Black rolled his eyes. “Commies, Capitalists, they’re all arseholes just the same as each other, just the Reds are usually more honest about it...

You're channelling me.
any1else

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« Reply #8 on: 11-08-2006 01:37 »

Oho. Yeah.
I was just thinking, possibly due to watching Scrubs most of yesterday, followed by some Futurama, that people waste too much effort on things that can't be altered. There's going to be something you don't like about everybody, even if you don't realise it at first. And the reason you don't realise it at first is often because it wasn't there to begin with, it just gradually escaped.

But then, how do you know that what you thought was the gritty truth, isn't actually the gritty truth at all?
Fry could be a male sex slave for all we know.
coldangel

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« Reply #9 on: 11-08-2006 01:47 »

I know nothing about human relationships except that they're all built on a solid framework of complete misunderstanding.
any1else

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« Reply #10 on: 11-08-2006 02:01 »
« Last Edit on: 11-08-2006 02:01 »

It comes with living within one's own head.
Hah, a few weeks ago I felt claustrophobic because I couldn't get out of my head. It was an odd moment, but then, a moment was all it was.

"Can you imagine a world without lawyers?"
I think even if humans were able to read each others' minds, they'd still get the wrong idea. Unless the 'reading' came with words and feelings and a bus full of memories that impacted on how that portion being read came to exist in the first place.
Perhaps that's the point, the continual battle of if's and but's - it's something to do.
Then again, there is no point to anything. Case closed.
Shiny

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« Reply #11 on: 11-08-2006 04:02 »

 
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Originally posted by coldangel_1:
I know nothing about human relationships except that they're all built on a solid framework of complete misunderstanding.

Bingo!  You are indeed learning, Grasshopper.

A Relationship = the continuous process of clearing up a jillion misunderstandings, one or two at a time....

coldangel

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« Reply #12 on: 11-08-2006 04:12 »

Too much fuss for minimal gain.
coldangel

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« Reply #13 on: 11-08-2006 04:24 »

Leela: Bender, dating your co-worker and primary mode of transportation is immoral, illogical and a violation of interstellar shipping statute 437-B.
Bender: That's what makes it so nasty!
Leela: Still, given the chance, I'd give in to urges far more shocking.


....Now, what did she mean by that?
Apple Tea

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« Reply #14 on: 11-08-2006 05:07 »
« Last Edit on: 11-08-2006 05:07 »

Yea, I always wondered what she meant by that.  It's probably one of those things you don't really want to find out about.

Also, when they walked in that scene, did Fry look turned on by the PE ship?
Shiny

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« Reply #15 on: 11-08-2006 05:10 »

Wouldn't we all like to know!  tongue

And on the fuss vs gain ratio, did I mention that the "gain" side of a Relationship is laughter, fun, compantionship, and (assuming we're talking Romantic Relationships) sex? 

Doesn't seem "minimal" to me, but I guess we're just two different people...
coldangel

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« Reply #16 on: 11-08-2006 05:17 »

I have lots of laughter and fun on my own. Companionship is torture to me, and sex... well... there are other ways of getting that.

Fry did look turned on by the PE ship... and then later he was aroused by watching Amy cleaning the PE ship (girl-on-girl action). Heh heh...

The last scene of that episode is rather sweet and incredibly shippy until ZoidFUCKERberg ruined it.
Leela's comment re: 'urges far more shocking'... could it have been about Fry?
any1else

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« Reply #17 on: 11-08-2006 05:26 »

Urges far more shocking...she did eat quite a lot of ice cream when she and the ship were having a girly chat.  laff Mmm, ice cream. I was watching that last night thinking "Hey, give me a bucket!"

Zoidberg was probably jealous at the end there. And they did both put their arms around him. They could have pushed him away...
coldangel

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« Reply #18 on: 11-08-2006 05:28 »

That's about the only affection Zoidberg's ever been shown.
HE DIDN'T DESERVE IT!
any1else

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« Reply #19 on: 11-08-2006 05:31 »

Perhaps the partial hug was meant for each other, they just didn't want to make Zoidy feel left out. It was Valentine's day after all. Not that that should make any difference.
coldangel

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« Reply #20 on: 11-08-2006 05:33 »

They were about to smooch before the stinking lobster showed up.
any1else

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« Reply #21 on: 11-08-2006 05:34 »

Well then you go in there and tell him off and force Fry and Leela to kiss.
coldangel

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« Reply #22 on: 11-08-2006 05:36 »

I'll go one better and tie their faces together so they can't STOP kissing.
That's what my unit did to a couple of CIA men over in Eritria. Heh heh...
Cyberphobia

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« Reply #23 on: 11-08-2006 05:45 »

Wasn't it so cute in that episode when (after Fry saved Leela with the oxygen and after Leela revived Fry) Leela and Fry walked in to where Bender was and  Leela was holding Fry's arm around her (obviously for Fry's support) but then she put her arm around Fry too (maybe for support but I don't think that extra support was completely necessary) so maybe it was subconsciously shippy on Leela's part. Plus it looked sooo cute! Like they were a couple.

And damn Zoidberg for ruining that at the end! Leela was actually accepting Fry's love and Zoidberg ruined it!
coldangel

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« Reply #24 on: 11-08-2006 06:16 »

Yes, short-term oxygen deprivation does not render a person unable to walk unaided for any prolonged period. Leela would know that. They were both play-acting because they wanted to touch each other.
any1else

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« Reply #25 on: 11-08-2006 06:21 »

Ha, that married couple at the beginning annoy the hell out of me. Why does TV keeping showing episodes I just watched on DVD the day before? They just skipped the last few season 3 eps and went into Love and Rocket.

"Does that dummy have a brother?"

“I’m not impressed by a guy’s message Fry; I’m impressed by the guy.”

Hey, Fry’s a dummy, and a guy, and he is/was a brother.

Here, pictures –



Yeah, they’re doing that on purpose. *nods*
Stezzy

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« Reply #26 on: 11-08-2006 06:28 »

I agree that Leela did love Fry, she just didn't know how to handle her feelings. Someone with a past like hers -being rejected by her parents and brought up in an orphanage- would make her insecure about love and relationships and she wouldn't want to get close to someone she truly cares about (Fry) because she'd think he would reject her like her parents did. Fry truly cares about her and she knows that; it scares her but she wouldn't admit she was scared. For Leela it would be far easier to make out she's not interested in someone than letting herself love them. I reckon her comment about her urges is definitely about Fry, it's got to be!

This is probably all been mulled over already, but I'm new and it's just my shippy two pence worth!   big grin
coldangel

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« Reply #27 on: 11-08-2006 06:30 »

No worries Stez. You're right.
And welcome aboard. The pay here is crap, but the working conditions are pretty sweet - just be sure to put some coins in the tin when you make yourself coffee.
Writer unit32

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« Reply #28 on: 11-08-2006 11:10 »

"I'm not impressed by the guy's message,I'm impressed by the guy"
Pfff ye right,and Fry and Sean didn't make just messages with the holophoner and the saxofon
Apple Tea

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« Reply #29 on: 11-08-2006 14:27 »
« Last Edit on: 11-08-2006 14:27 »

Yes, you must make amends with the past before you can successfully cope with the present
Tastes Like Fry

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« Reply #30 on: 11-08-2006 17:35 »


Dad flicked the channel after watching his news and this was exactly the spot where the episode was up to... then he flicked the channel again  hmpf I wasn't happy. He doesn't like Futurama; he thinks it's too 'adult'. But he's only seen parts of AOI1 and Love Labour's Lost in Space; it's kind of hard to convince him Futurama's not full of sex. If he had watched the end of L&R I could've shown him... grr...

Anyways, sorting through pics and found this cute picturesque moment. I might fix it later so Fry has his normal 'warm' hands.

Fry_B

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« Reply #31 on: 11-08-2006 18:18 »
« Last Edit on: 11-08-2006 18:18 »

 
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Originally posted by coldangel_1:
I have lots of laughter and fun on my own. Companionship is torture to me, and sex... well... there are other ways of getting that.
Which reminds me - how did you go about downloading 'Leela' off Kidnapster in that blank ACME inflatable doll   smile

 
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The last scene of that episode is rather sweet and incredibly shippy until ZoidFUCKERberg ruined it.

I saw L&R for the first time (I waited on purpose to see it on TV) - it was excellent... Fry's sacrifice and the U Leave me Breathless candyheart should bloody have melted Leela's heart and doubts. Come on, what more could you expect from a guy? (well, girls ??)
I guess, the storyline was that they should not kiss or hook up, so Zoidberg was sent in, in a kamikadze mission, knowing all shippers will want to disembowel him (not that he would care). The last scene was more than an impulse - in real life they would've kissed afterwards anyway I would say. But the management decided to continue torturing the shippers and so was against it.

 
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Leela's comment re: 'urges far more shocking'... could it have been about Fry?

I really really can't decide. 'Given the chance'? Were there no chances to give in to urges? Or rather were the chances not synchronized with Leela's urges? (how dare they - hehe). Maybe it was only meant-to-be-funny-slash-intriguing remark...but by all means, let's hope it was about Fry   smile
BeanBeanBean!

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« Reply #32 on: 11-08-2006 19:51 »

Yeah I think Zoidberg was put in at the end to stop the inevitable. We all got annoyed at Zoidberg for interfereing but then we kind of think , hmmm he never get's attention or love from anyone else so i'll let him off this time. But there could have been a long kiss to finish the episode there.
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« Reply #33 on: 11-08-2006 20:02 »

 
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Originally posted by BeanBeanBean!:
Yeah I think Zoidberg was put in at the end to stop the inevitable. We all got annoyed at Zoidberg for interfereing but then we kind of think , hmmm he never get's attention or love from anyone else so i'll let him off this time. But there could have been a long kiss to finish the episode there.


Yes there could have. And the same for at least another three episodes, NOTABLY The Devil's Hands ! (closure, sweet closure)

Thank you for the support, Professor - but please keep that chip implanter away from me, I changed trades twice already  hmpf
coldangel

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« Reply #34 on: 11-08-2006 20:33 »

Ther've been plenty of times when they were about to snog and something happened to prevent them. The Titanic hits a comet, Santa Claus fires a missile at them, etc...
Shiny

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« Reply #35 on: 11-08-2006 20:44 »

 
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Originally posted by coldangel_1:
I have lots of laughter and fun on my own. Companionship is torture to me, and sex... well... there are other ways of getting that.

Companionship is torture...?  Okay, I'm fairly antisocial, and have met people even MORE antisocial, some of whom are as close as one can get to developing "adult autism" without there actually being any such thing for them to develop.  But THAT'S a new one on me!

Though perhaps you just haven't fallen in with "the right crowd" for you, yet.  I was a loner who was bored by people for most of my youth, until I went to an advanced high school full of freaks, geeks, nerds and fans, and suddenly, it was FUN to hang out and talk with others, and others actually wanted to talk to me.  I had found My People.  smile 

Here's hoping you find your own People...at least to give it a try.


And I TOTALLY pause on the half-carry thing in L&R.  Likewise I adore that three seconds when Leela realizes what's happened, just before she kicks into action and starts CPR...for a second, she just panics, her hands just sort of waving helplessly in mid-air.  Of course she pulls it together fairly quickly, but I love that our ever-capable Leela has a couple of beats of pure, useless panic. 

Yes, I'm a bit of a sick puppy.  Deal with it.  tongue
coldangel

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« Reply #36 on: 11-08-2006 20:51 »

People just annoy me. I'm over it.

Leela's moments of panic are always cute because they're coming from someone who is, as you say, so capable.
Contrast always adds poigniancy. Like when a selfish and apparently amoral character (like Bender) turns around and does something noble.
KitKatBar-Fry

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« Reply #37 on: 11-08-2006 23:20 »

Very true. It makes for a nice change though; because in reality, people really can switch emotions, moods, and personalities if it is necessary. And you'd be surprised how quickly they do.

To make another topic, which shippy episode would you pick to keep if you could only pick one? Not necessarily your favorite, but the only one you could show your friends and say 'that's shippy, and I like it.'

I'm pretty sure The Sting will rack up some votes, but what other opinions are there?
coldangel

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« Reply #38 on: 11-08-2006 23:32 »

Yeah, The Sting for me too.
Apple Tea

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« Reply #39 on: 11-08-2006 23:37 »

Time Keeps on Slipping for me, it's a pretty funny episode in itself and plus its got that uber shippy message at the end.
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