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Nerd-o-rama

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« Reply #160 on: 11-09-2004 21:07 »
« Last Edit on: 11-10-2004 00:00 »

   
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Originally posted by Joysauce
Hmmm... everyone really seems to hate on newbies.

I wonder if these people act like this in real life. Are these people actually smart and cool, or is it just nerds that found a place on the internet where they can be socially excepted?
Well, I act pretty much the same, except I swear more here.  Also, I can get away with my insulting jokes, because most everyone here is a lot worse.  I try to be nice to newbs, when I notice them.  I even used to do the "HI! Welcome to PEEL!  Click on the FAQ and follow it to the letter otherwise you'll get flamed to death!" thing, but it started annoying the regulars (see above in this thread, I believe.)  Personally, I enjoy being on a board that holds its members to a higher standard.

Besides, as long as newbs stay in the on-topic threads for a while, they'll be fine.  As long as they pay attention to the redundant thread/etc. rules and don't use chatspeak, anyway.  Off-Topic (and maybe Re-Check, come to think of it) is the only place that's really hard on newbs.

TOTP Newb Friendliness.
See?  I didn't even comment on Joysauce's grievous spelling errors.  Aw, shit.

Just to clarify, that last bit was a joke.  For one thing, the ones that bugged me were actually homonym errors.  Yes, I'm a nerd.  I mean, you'd think you would have noticed...
germanfryfan

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« Reply #161 on: 11-09-2004 21:26 »

Well, yes Peel is a hard ground for newbs. That's for sure. I guess that comes not only from the "older" Peelers themselves, but also by the harder rules Peel has compared to other boards.

Somewhere in the offtopic board I have posted how diferrent kind of newbs are treated here, when I was a newb myself.
This mainly led to the point that I tried to be as friendly as possible to every newb that joins, and I invented these "Welcome to Peel"-pictures and the "Welcome to nerd-world" line, later on.  laff
The problem is that when you join a message board you go all crazy with all kinds of questions you want to ask. And not knowing of any rules, or how to search, you start to open new threads, which get closed immediately with either a link to the refering topic, or a simple "BAM".
Newbs either learn, or get pissed and flame, troll and spam around, or leave immediately .

You need a lot of time to get accepted here. The "master-hurdle" is realy the off-Topic boards. It's realy hard to fit in there, first to find an interesting topic no that the test-thread is banned, and second to tell you're opinion to strangers that probably won't listen at all.

Somehow I have stopped to make "big" posts in the offtopic threads, normally they led into conflict with Spiff, no matter what it was.  hmpf
Joysauce

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« Reply #162 on: 11-09-2004 23:47 »

 
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See? I didn't even comment on Joysauce's grievous spelling errors. Aw, shit.

Hey, I only mispelled two words. And I only mispelled them to see if you nerds would harp on them. You nerds, think you're so great just because you've been here a whole two months. Ooooh, look at me.
winna

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« Reply #163 on: 11-10-2004 03:19 »

Pfft... everyone says how hard the rules are on this board, I've probably broken all of the "rules" and nobody cares.  Sure we cut down on the spam, but I wouldn't have it any other way because it promotes actual discussion.  In fact I don't really go to other boards, but I would think that the purpose of having moderators is to do just what they do on PEEL, which they do exceptionally well IMO.  As far as labeling people newbs, I do that all the time, in fact people who have been here over a year, I still consider newbs, especially if they post a lot, then I think they're postwhores too (that's probably because I'm a slow poster).  I never make any of these claims out loud however, since it serves no purpose.  I do randomly "flame" new people, but I mean it in a completely jesting manner as I normally don't go any further than a one line comment. 

Generally, the thing that you can pull from me, is that I don't like to tie myself up with the "politics" of the board itself.  New people join all the time, I've seen it for the almost 4 years I've been on the board, the old regulars are the old regulars and they generally get more respect from me, but that's where the line ends.  I'm not very serious about any of the complaints I ever make either, since I think PEEL runs fine for what it does.  Besides, I like #fc much more than PEEL and spend more time in there anyways; I think more people should join #fc, although it is far more chaotic and spontaneous than PEEL; different settings for different people I suppose.  roll eyes
mint

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« Reply #164 on: 11-12-2004 19:42 »

I don't know why but I seem to have problem to view the peel Ďrules of the roadí but not any other peels. Can somebody good at computer science help out?

  confused
jerkberg

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« Reply #165 on: 11-13-2004 05:06 »
« Last Edit on: 11-13-2004 05:06 »

i have helped cyberworm by letting him borrow season 3 of futurama
hey may even decide to put his pictures on Peel.

speaking about pictures on peel


and that should be the last time anyone asks how to host images
Y_L_B

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« Reply #166 on: 11-13-2004 10:03 »
« Last Edit on: 11-13-2004 10:03 »

And AstroZombie, Kazzahdrane, nasteve... There have been Scots before you. Run a search.

Mint: Does it give you a message? Like a 404 or something?

EDIT: Cool! Post #1111!
winna

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« Reply #167 on: 11-13-2004 10:24 »

Awww damn... I loved AZ... too bad he doesn't come around anymore, his wife probably has him on a chain or something...
jerkberg

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« Reply #168 on: 11-13-2004 12:11 »

i made a complete ass of myself, sorry
germanfryfan

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« Reply #169 on: 11-13-2004 13:35 »

Well yes, yes you did, but it'll soon be forgotten anyway.

Oh and there will still be questions by several Peeler's and newbies where to host images, simply because only few check out this thread and if it comes to the next page no one will see it.  wink
Nerd-o-rama

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« Reply #170 on: 11-13-2004 13:58 »

Maybe if we put that fancy imageshack link on the front page...?

In other words: mArc and Slimmy, seriously consider updating the top page.  It's the first thing most people see here, and if we put links to what we want newbies to see on it, instead of making them look through the threads, it might help things.
germanfryfan

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« Reply #171 on: 11-13-2004 14:08 »
« Last Edit on: 11-13-2004 14:08 »

I don't think that Peel should make more advertises on the main page. A link to the "Rules of the road" or/and aslate's Faq wold be great, but I'm not so sure about more ads as long as they get Peel (the admins) some money.

edit: Also this topic about the Faq/mainpage/ads is quite old and will probably never come to an end. Also it is quite Offtopic in this thread.
mint

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« Reply #172 on: 11-13-2004 14:26 »

 
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Originally posted by *Y_L_B
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*Mint: Does it give you a message? Like a 404 or something?

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Um thanks for your response, no it doesn't when I click on it, it just don't go the next page like it suppose to. The weird thing is I seem to only cannot access that particular peel, all others I have no problem.

germanfryfan

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« Reply #173 on: 11-13-2004 14:50 »

That is realy weird, mint  hmpf.

You're talking about this thread, right?Rules of the road

Can't you access it at all (you get a white browser-window, and it keeps on loading), or does Peel give you a nope-page?
mint

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« Reply #174 on: 11-14-2004 17:17 »
« Last Edit on: 11-14-2004 17:17 »

I just tried it just then, the bits where the green squares at the bottom of the pc screen going across until you made it to the next screen just get stuck and refuse to move.


  no no
germanfryfan

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« Reply #175 on: 11-14-2004 22:43 »
« Last Edit on: 11-14-2004 22:43 »

oh my...

what about the second page of "Rules to the road", does this work?

the link : http://www.peelified.com/cgi-bin/Futurama/10-000026-2/

have you tried to clean out your browser cache (Internet-temp folder)?

You probably use a french windows (if you use windows at all    hmpf ). The way to do it in an english windows: within the InternetExplorer --> menu extras --> internet-options --> the "general"-tab --> "delete-files" button.

edit: a note... this will probably delete all cookies you saved, so that internet-passwords you saved probably won't work after that.

If this still doesn't work, head over to the Computer help-thread. There are more wise-guys who'll help you.  smile
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« Reply #176 on: 11-14-2004 23:40 »

Isn't this more of an "Actual Complaints" sort of thing?
mint

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« Reply #177 on: 11-16-2004 19:04 »

 
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Originally posted by *Nixorbo*:
*Isn't this more of an "Actual Complaints" sort of thing?
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I am not complaining, rather I am seeking for assistance.

@GFF Thanks I got in at last! Yeah!
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Nerd-o-rama

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« Reply #178 on: 11-23-2004 00:14 »
« Last Edit on: 11-23-2004 00:14 »

Yeah, I just posted a welcome/here's the FAQ/you're in the wrong frelling forum message in General Disscussion.  The thread (I'm sure the mods will find it eventually...it's a character poll) gave me a few ideas.

It would really help to have these three things really prominent:

 www.peelified.com/ubb/faq.html
 http://thefryhole.no-ip.com/tfh/peelfaq.php/
 http://www.starterupsteve.com/swf/posting.html
Credit goes to Gwan101 for posting that last one.  It explains etiquette, and is hilariously condescending.  Okay, we don't really need that one.

My main issue here is with format.  People don't check the FAQ because it is not well advertised.  Also, just about every other thing anybody could ever want to know about PEEL (short of FemJesse's phone number) is answered in Aslate's FAQ on The Fry Hole.

We can't make people read the FAQ (okay, well technically we can by linking them to it during the registration process,) but we can encourage them to read it before they post and get rude responses.  Not everyone can be as good a newb as I (apparently) was/am.

Sorry for repeating myself, but I thought I'd clarify my arguments and give a plug to that hilarious Steam video.)
aslate

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« Reply #179 on: 11-23-2004 04:47 »

 
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Originally posted by Nerd-o-rama:
It would really help to have these three things really prominent:
 www.peelified.com/ubb/faq.html
  http://www.thefryhole.co.uk/peelfaq.php 
 http://www.starterupsteve.com/swf/posting.html

Try that URL instead, i keep that up to date and should always be up.

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« Reply #180 on: 11-23-2004 08:43 »

 
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Originally posted by Nerd-o-rama:
Credit goes to Gwan101 for posting that last one.

Click the first link in my post
Nerd-o-rama

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« Reply #181 on: 11-23-2004 14:25 »
« Last Edit on: 11-23-2004 14:25 »

I meant posting it as a reference for a newb.  Sorry I don't keep up with the link thread.  I waste enough time on the stuff I visit regularly already.

Also, I think I'm going to bookmark aslate's FAQ from now on.  I tend to Google it, particularly when I just want to give someone the link, and apparently the applicable result there uses the outdated url (the no-ip.com one.)
mint

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« Reply #182 on: 11-29-2004 19:30 »

I am wondering how you align your pictures in your signature side by side.
Please help.


germanfryfan

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« Reply #183 on: 11-29-2004 20:14 »

Sadly but you can't align them...

All posts by normal members like you and me are automatically aligned to the left, and there is no option to change it.

The only members "allowed" to do are the Mods/Ubermods/Admins, because they may use HTML.

However you can "fake" it if you try to use the full width of 450 pixels allowed for signature pictures and leave a blank border on the left of them.
Teral

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« Reply #184 on: 11-30-2004 10:25 »
« Last Edit on: 11-30-2004 10:25 »

Insert as many "& n b s p ;" (without the "" and spaces, the this is the code for space) in your sig as you need and you can move the signature pictures sideways. It'll take a bit of trial-and-error, but it's doable.

Observe my sideswept text-sig.

Edit: oh, yeah, the effect goes away if you edit your text.
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Teral

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« Reply #185 on: 11-30-2004 10:32 »

Now observe, and this time I wont edit it.

Don't confuse not caring with not knowing!
mint

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« Reply #186 on: 11-30-2004 17:29 »

Thanks GFF and Teral. I upload the picture I wanted and was given a code. I was instructed to copy this code into my signature section.  I did that but I donít see any picture attached to my post? Can someone please help?
aslate

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« Reply #187 on: 11-30-2004 17:36 »
« Last Edit on: 11-30-2004 17:36 »

 
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Originally posted by mint:
Thanks GFF and Teral. I upload the picture I wanted and was given a code. I was instructed to copy this code into my signature section.  I did that but I donít see any picture attached to my post? Can someone please help?

The PEELers' FAQ has that one listed. Try looking there if you have trouble with PEEL   smile
My signature wont show, and I have uploaded a picture in the profile. Help!

mint

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« Reply #188 on: 11-30-2004 18:52 »

Aslate, thanks for your help. However the link you gave me gets me to a picture of a fountain you posted in another peel...
aslate

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« Reply #189 on: 11-30-2004 18:59 »

Edited now, accidentally copied the URL for that picture between getting the PEEL FAQ URL and posting it.
mint

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« Reply #190 on: 12-03-2004 17:40 »
« Last Edit on: 12-03-2004 17:40 »

I have problem to post pictures on my post.


Please help.

winna

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« Reply #191 on: 12-03-2004 17:50 »
« Last Edit on: 12-03-2004 17:50 »

Like this?


???
germanfryfan

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« Reply #192 on: 12-03-2004 18:12 »
« Last Edit on: 12-03-2004 18:12 »

get the "*" out of it and it should work:



oops... at least the url does      confused

oh right... the http:// and then the hotlinking blocker from imdb I guess...

So I guess the problem here is this picture, now.

But normaly it should work if you click these quick tags like
]http://*your-link*[/IMG][/url]

and then replace everything, including the "*".
But don't forget to write http:// in there again when posting pics and links.   smile
mint

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« Reply #193 on: 12-03-2004 18:38 »

Yeah winna that is exactly wot happened to me how do you know? Anyway the second time I try on this peel it just got the words and symbols like wot's shown on my post.

Thanks GFF you are so helpful. I will need to wait to test that out next time when I have a picture to post again otherwise people might accuse me of spamming.
 

mint

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« Reply #194 on: 12-07-2004 19:39 »

Ok itís me again. I wish to know is there anyway I can constantly keep the box of show signature ticked? Itís just that sometime I forgot to tick it then my picture wonít show...

Nerd-o-rama

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« Reply #195 on: 12-07-2004 19:52 »
« Last Edit on: 12-08-2004 00:00 »

Admins, mods and old-schoolers especially hate get annoyed by frequent signatures.  They try to discourage them without having rules agaisnt them; this is why it's such a hassle to use them, and if I've got my rumors straight, why we have a Quick Post box.

I can kinda see where they are coming from, since signature images can get distracting after a while *coughravenstarcough*.

It should be possible...just add another checkbox on the preferences page and another cookie.  The question is, will they?  The answer: probably not.

EDITed for people who don't like sweeping generalizations.  Everybody gets on my case about that...
winna

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« Reply #196 on: 12-07-2004 21:01 »

Nobody hates signatures.  There is discouragement from overuse of them however, and you are correct nerdo, it is the exact reason we have a quickpost.  The unofficial rule is one sig per page is enough, however I don't mind as long as it isn't over 3.  3 posts per page by one person would be pretty average anyways....
M0le

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« Reply #197 on: 12-08-2004 00:15 »

I don't mind signatures, personally. The overuse of crap signatures, like Ravenstar's, however, is just plain annoying. If winna was to suddenly start using his boozecat signature for every post, I'd love it.
 
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Originally posted by Ricky:
*coughravenstarcough*
*coughandjulietcough*
Nixorbo

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« Reply #198 on: 12-08-2004 01:02 »

Wait, who hates sigs?

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« Reply #199 on: 12-08-2004 13:48 »

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Originally posted by germanfryfan:
Well, yes Peel is a hard ground for newbs. That's for sure. I guess that comes not only from the "older" Peelers themselves, but also by the harder rules Peel has compared to other boards.

yeah, it pays to be kind with newbs, especially because everyone here has been a newbie, and without newbies this place wouldn't grow bigger
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