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Monster_Robot_Maniac

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« Reply #200 on: 09-15-2013 00:07 »
« Last Edit on: 09-15-2013 00:11 »

I felt like it was an excellent way to end the show. It had everything every fan wanted in a finale - A very Sci-Fi storyline, a touching Fry/Leela plotline, inclusion of every main character and quite a few side characters, and an extremely open ending.
The only way it could've been better for me is if it had a longer ruinning time, like maybe an hour or so. It seemed like much more time could've been spent establishing the concept of the Time Button, saying farewell to the main crew, and following Fry and Leela's lives in the Frozen Universe. However, I think they covered these bases surpirisingly well within 22 minutes.

I'm happy the show has ended again before it went into 'Limbo' Simpsons style. I'd hate to see the show turn into a terrible, poorly-written program. If the show does come back, though, I'm sure the offtime inbeetween this finale and the new Pilot would give them some time to refresh themselves with the style of the show.

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cyber_turnip

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« Reply #201 on: 09-15-2013 00:36 »

I don't really want more of the show, but that's not to say that I wouldn't get excited at the prospect of new episodes if it were to happen. I'd be very happy if they announced new episodes were to be made, but that's because I don't really know what's best for me.

I would love one last send-off in the form of a film, though. One last send-off, a bit more "special" than a regular episode.

I suppose the Simpsons crossover is meant as something like that, but we all know it's going to suck, so it's not really doing the trick.
Anna3000

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« Reply #202 on: 09-15-2013 20:51 »

I'm also very happy with "Meanwhile" being the end, although I would be happy if a film were to be made as a final-yes-we-truly-mean-it-this-time send-off. "Meanwhile" really had everything I wanted in a finale, (knowing that Fry and Leela had their "happy ending," an interesting sci-fi plot, and of course, some excellent humor), so though I had a couple minor issues with it, I'm entirely satisfied.

I actually don't particularly want new episodes, even though I know I'd be excited (and slightly nervous) if they were to ever be produced. As tnuk said, all things must come to an end, and I want Futurama to end with as much dignity as possible instead of slowly rotting like the Simpsons has.
Kataang102

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« Reply #203 on: 09-16-2013 06:13 »

I'm happy with meanwhile too

It was the best ending to the sierse so far, yes I am sad that it is over
But I would rather have an amazing to this show, than just some crappy normal episode
A mistake too many show do

Yes I am looking at you TDHAIPT
UnrealLegend

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« Reply #204 on: 09-16-2013 06:31 »

I'm happy with meanwhile too

It was the best ending to the sierse so far, yes I am sad that it is over
But I would rather have an amazing to this show, than just some crappy normal episode
A mistake too many show do

Yes I am looking at you TDHAIPT

Are you implying that TDHAIPT was a bad finale? Because nope.

I still think it was the best. As I've said a few times; Meanwhile didn't make very good use of characters other than Fry and Leela, which makes it an average finale for me.
Beamer

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« Reply #205 on: 09-16-2013 07:34 »
« Last Edit on: 09-16-2013 07:37 »

I think The Devil's Hands are Idle Playthings has always been an overrated episode. The first two acts are pretty average; a large number of jokes fall flat and it really doesn't start to pick up until the final act actually begins. The opera is the only thing that saves the episode for me, and I honestly don't think it would've been held in as high a regard if it weren't originally the finale.

Plus, there are some logical things that annoy me. Why does getting new hands improve Fry's musical ability? How is the devil able to just switch them over then and there? This is the beginning of the show's descent into "cartoony things happening just because, with no sci-fi explanation to accompany them," a really unfortunate approach that would then be prominent in quite a few of the weaker Comedy Central episodes (ie. act one of The Tip of the Zoidberg).

Having said that though, I will admit that the final scene is actually really beautiful, but it still doesn't make it a great episode. It was an acceptable finale for its last scene alone (likewise for Into the Wild Green Yonder, though I actually love the final scene in that one even more), whereas Meanwhile actually felt like a finale the entire way through. I would rank TDHAIP evenly with Overclockwise; it was a flawed episode with fleeting moments of brilliance it could never quite grasp, ultimately saved by an incredible last scene.
cyber_turnip

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« Reply #206 on: 09-16-2013 11:18 »

I think that "The Devil's Hands are Idle Playthings" is a very, very good episode of the show. Not one of their all-time greatest, but definitely one of the show's stronger half hours.

That said, it works as a nice open-ended finale because it manages to work so many of the characters into the plot, including lots of scenes that include countless background people - the robot wheel was meant to show every robot that had appeared up until that point, for example.

It also works nicely because it's a very solid example of what the show was all about and what it did.

The lovely ending was the icing on the cake; but ultimately, it was just a normal episode with no real sense of finality about it. It was clearly not written as an ending to nearly the same extent as the next three fauxnales were.


So as I've said, whilst I think that it's the best episode out of the finales, taken purely as an episode, I think that "Meanwhile" is the best episode in terms of how good of a conclusion it is for the show.

It's probably because it's the only episode that really has an air of finality from start to finish. "Devil's Hands" is largely a normal episode with a nice emotional moment at the end. "Into the Wild Green Yonder" is a fantastic ending moment tacked on to the end of a film it has nothing to do with. "Overclockwise" sort of deals with finality except that the Fry and Leela plot, again, feels awfully tacked on and is clearly only there to accommodate the beautiful ending. "Meanwhile" feels like the end from the moment they get off of the moon (and even that was a nice call back to the start of the series that helps to bring things full circle). If anything, the final moments have the least sense of it being the end out of all of the others, but the episode as a whole just feels like a concluding chapter.
UnrealLegend

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« Reply #207 on: 09-16-2013 11:43 »

"Into the Wild Green Yonder" is a fantastic ending moment tacked on to the end of a film it has nothing to do with.
THANK YOU! I'm so glad I'm not the only one who thinks this.

I've always liked ITWGY's ending, but it always felt a bit random and awkwardly shoehorned into the plot.
Kataang102

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« Reply #208 on: 09-16-2013 16:28 »

It felt like a season finale more than a seirse finale
Quantum Neutrino Field

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« Reply #209 on: 09-16-2013 19:13 »

"Into the Wild Green Yonder" is a fantastic ending moment tacked on to the end of a film it has nothing to do with.
THANK YOU! I'm so glad I'm not the only one who thinks this.

Other than out of the place discussion in the very end, I must disagree; it was continuing spaceship chase (round 3) after conclusion of A-plot, their problems with law weren't resolved at that point and it was follow-up of B-plot. All characters now united to fight against the B-plot antagonist after defeating A-plot antagonist together.
cyber_turnip

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« Reply #210 on: 09-16-2013 20:24 »

But "they run away" isn't a very good conclusion to any of that, frankly. It's only a step away from "it was all a dream".

No real reason was given for how they got out of their legal problems in "Rebirth". Yes, you can theorise all you want about how their dying might have voided the law's problems with them and so forth, but, simply, it just wasn't addressed.
Quantum Neutrino Field

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« Reply #211 on: 09-16-2013 22:26 »

Yeah, it wasn't really resolved, but my point is that the end wasn't really disconnected from the rest. As a conclusion, yes, it didn't work that well.
SolidSnake

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« Reply #212 on: 09-16-2013 23:30 »

I was never really fond of the Wild Green Yonder ending. I think it was a bit overrated. It just didn't give me the impact the Devils Hands or Meanwhile endings had for me.

I like the cliff-hanger it left, but that was just about it.
Kataang102

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« Reply #213 on: 09-17-2013 00:13 »

I love ITWGY
Even though it was a cliffhanger

But Meanwhile is the best
Monster_Robot_Maniac

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« Reply #214 on: 09-17-2013 00:48 »

Into the Wild Green Yonder definitely had the best ending, at least to me, because it was by far the most open ended. The entire crew flew into a Portal that could send them anywhere at all, they were all in alot of trouble with the law, and there was no way to escape it all. Plus, they wrapped up Fry and Leela's relationship quickly and meaningfully, all while still building suspense until the ship finally flew into the Wormhole.To me, that's a damn great way to end a series!
 The story of the movie as a whole was pretty good, too, as it included every main cast character rather well, built alot of mystery and interest over time, and kept my attention over the entire 80-minutes-or-so. However, it wasn't all good. The Fanny story completely dissapeared, and that always bothered me, because they spent so much time building up their relationship, and then just dropped it out of the blue. Some parts dragged on too long for my tastes, such as the Mars Vegas scenes. I'd have preferred it if they would've cut all of those scenes down so that the movie could get to the point faster.
However, the good outranks the bad in this movie in my opinion. It's Probably my favorite of the four movies, with BBS in second place, BWABB in 3rd, and BG in 4th.
Mr Snrub

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« Reply #215 on: 09-17-2013 00:53 »

It was the best ending, but what led up to it was a mess. An ending needs to build on what came before, not just come outta fuckin' nowhere, like an RKO King.
Monster_Robot_Maniac

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« Reply #216 on: 09-17-2013 02:39 »

It was the best ending, but what led up to it was a mess. An ending needs to build on what came before, not just come outta fuckin' nowhere, like an RKO King.
Yeah, I agree that the ending did seem a little forced. But at least the story that lead up to it was a pretty good one, even if it didn't have much to do with the ending.
Kataang102

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« Reply #217 on: 09-19-2013 18:37 »

I didn't like BWABB
It was really gross
KurtPikachu2001

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« Reply #218 on: 09-19-2013 19:00 »
« Last Edit on: 09-19-2013 19:03 »

Didn't like the ending to ITWGY.  Because at the time it seemed like the show wasn't coming back.   It left a lot of unanswered questions.   After that movie was released, we fans had to wait until late June for news that it came back.  

They could've told us from the get-go.


Maybe it's good it doesn't come back anyway.  If it did, who knows what kind of writers they'll hire and who knows how the characters and the situations will be.    If it never comes back, then a new bunch of fans from generations to come can discover the show and it will stand the test of time.  I mean, look at those old TV Shows on MeTV and those old comedy teams like The Three Stooges, Monty Python, and Laurel and Hardy.   They're all long gone, and they're still being discovered by people who become new fans everyday.


BWABB and BG are my favorite Futurama movies.
Jezzem

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« Reply #219 on: 09-19-2013 19:45 »

Didn't like the ending to ITWGY.  Because at the time it seemed like the show wasn't coming back.   It left a lot of unanswered questions.   After that movie was released, we fans had to wait until late June for news that it came back. 

They could've told us from the get-go.

They didn't know it was coming back from the get-go.
Jack.Thomas

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« Reply #220 on: 09-19-2013 20:15 »

Today they are having the first table read for the Futurama/Simpsons crossover! John DiMaggio just tweeted about an hour ago. He also attached a pic of the script front cover, according to that, the episode will be called "Simpsorama."
Quantum Neutrino Field

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« Reply #221 on: 09-19-2013 20:25 »

Hey, at least it's not creative! Hopefully the episode itself won't be much more creative than that, because I think the simpler it will be, the better.
Boxy Robot

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« Reply #222 on: 09-19-2013 20:26 »

Today they are having the first table read for the Futurama/Simpsons crossover! John DiMaggio just tweeted about an hour ago. He also attached a pic of the script front cover, according to that, the episode will be called "Simpsorama."

Pretty much knew it was going to be called that. They could have chosen something a little more original.
cyber_turnip

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« Reply #223 on: 09-19-2013 20:48 »

At least it's better than The Futuramons.
MuchAdo

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« Reply #224 on: 09-19-2013 22:18 »
« Last Edit on: 09-19-2013 22:20 »

I think The Devil's Hands are Idle Playthings has always been an overrated episode. The first two acts are pretty average; a large number of jokes fall flat and it really doesn't start to pick up until the final act actually begins. The opera is the only thing that saves the episode for me, and I honestly don't think it would've been held in as high a regard if it weren't originally the finale.

Having said that though, I will admit that the final scene is actually really beautiful, but it still doesn't make it a great episode. It was an acceptable finale for its last scene alone (likewise for Into the Wild Green Yonder, though I actually love the final scene in that one even more), whereas Meanwhile actually felt like a finale the entire way through.

THIS MAN NEEDS GOLD MEDALS, DAMMIT!!!!
Boxy Robot

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« Reply #225 on: 09-19-2013 22:19 »

At least it's better than The Futuramons.

Futuremons, isn't that the Hermes spin-off?
MuchAdo

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« Reply #226 on: 09-19-2013 22:21 »
« Last Edit on: 09-20-2013 16:25 »

No that's the "Family Guy" spin-off with the dead dog.
Lost My Phone

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« Reply #227 on: 09-19-2013 23:43 »

....He also attached a pic of the script front cover, according to that, the episode will be called "Simpsorama."
It's still better than the title I came up with ("Back from the Future").
Mr Snrub

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« Reply #228 on: 09-20-2013 00:26 »

Better than my title, "*fart noise*"
Kataang102

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« Reply #229 on: 09-20-2013 03:54 »

Hey I like the name

The Family guy crossover is called Simpsons Guy

Binder

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« Reply #230 on: 09-20-2013 03:57 »

I can't think of a better title, and it fits with the many "rama" titles.
Kataang102

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« Reply #231 on: 09-20-2013 04:03 »

Agreed
Although they already had FuturDrama
Binder

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« Reply #232 on: 09-20-2013 14:37 »

Regarding canon status, I'm pretty sure that Matt, David, and Al Jean are aware that The Simpsons are fictional in the Futurama universe. We could have something akin to "Behind the Laughter" or "The Simpsons 138th Episode Spectacular" where The Simpsons is acknowledged to be fictional.

Not to become one of those guys who works fanfics into every post, but I'm hoping the episode begins in the Futurama universe - perhaps with a handy subtitle noting "Planet Express Delivery Company, New New York, 3012" so viewers know where they are and Futurama fans know this occurs before "Meanwhile". Sort of an untold adventure. From there, they could easily have the Futurama characters enter The Simpsons by way of a machine built by the Professor or (taking a page from the comic books) the Brain Spawn send the crew into an old DVD or into a TV playing an old episode of the series.

We know that Bender is sent to kill Bart, so it'll probably be the characters willingly sent back. Also, it's possible that Bender is trying to stop Bart from doing something within the TV show The Simpsons which has a negative impact on the future. Perhaps the episode is deemed offensive by the Omicronians? Remember, the Omicronians watch 20th century television.

Actually, that would work out quite well. An Omicronian invasion is spawned by an offensive The Simpsons episode, Bender is sent "back in time" by entering the fictional TV series and attempts to alter the episode from within. Some complication occurs and the entire PE crew (or all of NNY) are sent in as well.
cyber_turnip

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« Reply #233 on: 09-20-2013 16:16 »

Honestly, I'd be very surprised if they bother to acknowledge the way that both shows are fictional within their respective universes. I think The Simpsons is far too lazy a show to care any more; and they seem to be doing this for passive fans of both shows rather than the die hards.

That said, there are plenty of ways that they could acknowledge it and make it work as part of the plot - I just don't think that they will.
Lost My Phone

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« Reply #234 on: 09-20-2013 22:29 »

I'm still sad
And south park, the Simpsons and bobs burgers wont be back for two weeks, so there nothing good on tv
(except for friday legends of Korra comes back)

I hope it gets picked up again, I hate being in this situation, I was so sure it was going to come back

That's a good thing.
Kataang102

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« Reply #235 on: 09-21-2013 03:39 »

Well we did have to wait two years for legend of Korra and a more than a year for season 2
(Yes I am a total avatar nerd)
So yes two weeks isn't long but it can still be hard to wait
Lost My Phone

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« Reply #236 on: 09-21-2013 07:51 »

Actually, I meant that it's a good thing because The Simpsons is so bad nowadays. But if you like a show, I guess two weeks is a long time to wait. tongue
SolidSnake

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« Reply #237 on: 09-21-2013 15:41 »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22U0smNUkhA

Lauren Tom pretty much thanks us for bringing the show back. Mainly because it helped her raise money for something.
Kataang102

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« Reply #238 on: 09-21-2013 18:54 »

I agree season 24 was bad but I still love it
cyber_turnip

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« Reply #239 on: 09-21-2013 20:16 »

Seasons 24, 23, 22, 21, 20, 19, 18, 17, 16, 15, 14, 13, 12, 11.
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