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Zed 85

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« Reply #80 on: 03-24-2002 16:07 »
« Last Edit on: 03-24-2002 16:07 by Nixorbo »

I don't know why, but something keeps telling me that there is something wrong with the episode. I don't know why and I don't know what.
Really though,
Bloody hilarious
Plot was very good (I strangely felt it was slightly rushed - or at least fast paced  confused )
Visuals were stunning - best I've seen in any cartoon.
Great use of Characters, each one used brilliantly. Zoidy steals the show without it being neccasarily all about him (unlike WMIBACIL and That's Lobstertainment).
All in all a very good episode.

[Does thoughtful TOTPD]   big grin
Tweek

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« Reply #81 on: 05-09-2002 12:35 »

I loved this episode; it was great how Fry did everything he could to protect his grandfather only to end up having him killed in a nuclear bomb test. The animation was great, especially the scene where they attack the air base to steal the microwave transmitter. Fry is a degenerate, but that is part of what makes him so cool.
Kryten

Space Pope
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« Reply #82 on: 06-02-2002 18:05 »

*BUMP*

It's on again tonight! If you have any new insights, post 'em here!
meisterPOOP

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« Reply #83 on: 06-02-2002 20:33 »

Saw it for the first time tonight.  Not a bad episode, but the temporal displacement with Fry being his own grandfather kind of bewhilders me.
BrainSluggo

Starship Captain
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« Reply #84 on: 06-02-2002 23:21 »

"Take that, causality!"
--Farnsworth

This episode is so amazingly fast-paced, it's unbelievable. Fishy Joe thinks I'm exclusively a ship-head (insert your misspelling-based gag here yourself), but I have absolutely no beef whatsoever with this relationship-free ep. (NOTE: an incestuous one-night stand is not a "relationship," and Zoidberg and Truman didn't go all the way.) Technically brilliant, too, with a buttload of superb CGI effects. 
payn
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« Reply #85 on: 06-02-2002 23:23 »

They just showed the episode again, and there were serious problems with it. Most importantly, the sound would get out of sync, then get jerky, then cut out entirely for a few seconds, with just about every scene change. Also, there were (what looked like) digital compression artifacts in the video. It was almost as if Fox forgot to broadcast the episode, and the local station decided to play us a copy they'd found online, on a computer that wasn't quite up to keeping up....

I wonder whether the actual screwup was due to Fox, KTTV-11, or Adelphia cable. Whatever the reason, I got frustrated half-way through and watched my DivX copy again....

Since I didn't comment on this episode the first time around, I'd like to second all the "great episode" comments. I think all my favorite jokes have already been mentioned here, so I won't go into them.

One thing: The "robot being left behind in the past and surviving for a long time until his friends pick him up in the present" has been done many times, not just in ST:TNG. And Bender's reaction to being found reminded me more of Marvin (in HHGTTG) than Data.
Venus

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« Reply #86 on: 06-03-2002 01:27 »

i may have already pointed this out, but im to lazy to go back and check, but i read somewhere that they thought about writing this ep as a movie. i wish they had it would have been awsome.
bankrupt

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« Reply #87 on: 06-03-2002 09:01 »

I finally got to see this last night.  I loved it.  I thought the episode was very good, one of my favorites.  Just makes me ask myself why they're cancelling this show.  Oh I forgot, it's for shows like Hookers in Alaska or whatever it was was on last night.
BrainSluggo

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« Reply #88 on: 06-03-2002 21:40 »

If Futurama were produced by George Lucas, Space Pilot 3000 The Special Edition would have a pointless new scene in the Head Museum in which Truman freaks out at the sight of Fry.
Kryten

Space Pope
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« Reply #89 on: 06-03-2002 23:44 »

Also, URL shoots first.
bankrupt

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« Reply #90 on: 06-03-2002 23:46 »

Now I hope they rerun AOI 2 since they only showed half of it here.  I'm also hoping when the original Star Wars comes out, you have the ability to turn the added scenes off.
McGrady

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« Reply #91 on: 06-04-2002 10:10 »
« Last Edit on: 06-04-2002 10:10 »

payn: I also noticed the terrible quality of the episode.  I couldn't help but think that it was a extremely poorly done copy.  I don't know what went on, but it looked terrible.  The episode had tons and tons of artifacting.  Very weird.  At first, I thought I was going crazy or possibly a cable wasn't plugged in correctly.

edit: I get a feed from WNYW (the fox affiliate in New York).  I have noticed that several stations from New York appear to have sever problems; possibly they are compressing data a lot to transfer it?
Damitol

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« Reply #92 on: 06-04-2002 16:18 »
« Last Edit on: 06-04-2002 16:18 »

Saw it for the first time Sunday and re-watched it last night.  It looked fine where I am, so any technical problems were local ones. 

My only negative thought was that it missed the opportunity for a final joke.  After the professor said "Well if time doesn't care that Fry killed his own grandfather, who are we to say anything" (or something to that effect) I thought for sure as they were walking back to the ship some huge change (such as two moons or something) would be apparent.

Or am I just an idiot and missed it?

Oh well - several big laughs and wonderful animation throughout.  Five out of five.

Autopsy Dr.:  "Stomach contents - one deviled egg."

Zoidberg:  "A deviled egg?!?!?!?!"  Slurp-slurp-slurp

Autopsy Dr.: "...and the same deviled egg."

Ha ha ha.
M. Proctor

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« Reply #93 on: 06-05-2002 12:41 »

That episode is great. It's my favorite  big grin
David A

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« Reply #94 on: 06-05-2002 23:57 »

One thing bothers me about this episode.  According to "Luck of the Fryrish," shouldn't Fry's grandfather be named Yancy, not Enos?

I guess Yancy could be his other grandfather, or Mildred could have married Yancy later on.  Am I the only one who noticed this?
Kryten

Space Pope
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« Reply #95 on: 06-06-2002 00:30 »

He never said FRY'S grandfather was named Yancy. He said HIS grandfather was named Yancy.
David A

Urban Legend
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« Reply #96 on: 06-06-2002 00:46 »

I thought he said his father was named Yancy.   confused
BrainSluggo

Starship Captain
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« Reply #97 on: 06-06-2002 02:52 »
« Last Edit on: 06-06-2002 02:52 »

Ah, but whose side of the family is Enos from? If Fry's father's father is Yancy, then Enos must have been (strictly technically speaking) his maternal-side grampa.

Did Fry change history, or just fulfill it? He didn't cease to exist, so we may be entering The Why of Fry territory again: was Fry sent by Nibblonians to the future in order to get his nads irradiated, then travel back in time to commit incest, in order to produce his universe-saving brain-wave pattern?

Ahgk, makes me brain hurts.

David A

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« Reply #98 on: 06-06-2002 04:00 »

I think Enos was his paternal grandfather.  Remember when Fry yells "Don't worry, Dad," at Enos' crotch?

I like the idea of Yancy being the name of a guy that Mildred married after Enos was dead.  Edeltraut came up with that theory, but the more I think about it, the more I agree with her reasoning.

Of course, the real reason is probably that "Fryrish" and "Roswell" were written by different authors, but that sort of continuity error bothers me.
BrainSluggo

Starship Captain
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« Reply #99 on: 06-06-2002 04:34 »

Ah, true dat. I haven't seen Edeltraut's theory, though...is it in the Roswell thread under "Weird Scenes?"

Having NOT seen that theory, there's another possibility: Yancy (AKA Dad) is even more off his rocker than he seemed in LOTF...

Yancy: "His name wasn't Enos!! It was Yancy! YANCY! They were all named YANCY! It's a GOOD name! I'd'a named you Yancy like your brother but that Commie-Rat judge said he wouldn't allow it! You EVER say ENOS in this house again and I'll lock you in the SAAAAAAAAAFE!!!!"
Mom: "Shut up, I'm watching the game!"

Or: Yancy E. Fry. If they WERE all named Yancy, everyone'd be used to using the third name to keep things sorted out.

Heh..Yancy.
static

Starship Captain
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« Reply #100 on: 06-06-2002 04:46 »

This one is definately one of THE most supreme episodes of futurama ever aired in the humor department  big grin
Since im a F&L Shipper at heart i would go for one of those episodes that contain more romance but this one really excels.
truman" are you here to produce some alien-human hybrid?"
zoid" are you coming onto me?"  laff
David A

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« Reply #101 on: 06-06-2002 04:48 »

It was just an idea that Edel came up with when we were talking about this in the chatroom.

I missed this episode the first time around, so Sunday was the first time I saw it.  I was surprised that no one brought up the Yancy/Enos question before.

Both of your theories are good ones too, Sluggo.   smile
McGrady

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« Reply #102 on: 06-06-2002 18:43 »

People have brought up the Yancy/Enos thing before; check out weird scenes for more time traveling and mind bending experiences.  Since Enos could be Fry's grandfather (a possibility since Fry's dad said that his son, himself, and his grandfather, skipping the Enos part), and Fry said to Enos's crotch, "It will be ok dad!", I think that Enos was supposed to be Fry's paternal grandfather.  The reason why Enos looked like Fry is because he was simply supposed to remind us of Fry.
David A

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« Reply #103 on: 06-07-2002 00:55 »

Okay, so I'm not the first one to bring this up.

I had to search for the old thread under "Weird Scenes" and wade through all the posts about time travel and paradoxes, but I see that the question was asked and answered already.

I'll just shut up now.   tongue
BrainSluggo

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« Reply #104 on: 06-07-2002 02:54 »

I'm not "deeply offended" or anything like that, but if there anything that bothered me a little, it was the shoot-'em-up ending.

Mind you, I think it was supposed to be just a tad disturbing--the PE crew blasterizing the crap out of an US Army base and all. They're not firing directly at anyone, of course, but all the ensuing chaos and explosions--a torpedo, for God's sake!--probably caused a couple of fatalities, much like firing a couple of shots into the air at a Who concert or pushing at a soccer match.

I can see Leela, Bender, and especially that amoral senile crackpot Farnsworth not caring about long-dead losers from the Stupid Ages--but Fry? Must've just been wowed by all the lasers (and stuff and junk) and desensitized by violence on TV. (IRONYYYYY!)

If what Venus read is true and this was originally intended as a movie, they probably would've covered that angle, as well as the obvious Fry "should-I-stay-or-should-I-go?" dilemma, and the effects their actions had on the future...ah well.
Annorax

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« Reply #105 on: 09-18-2003 06:50 »
« Last Edit on: 09-18-2003 06:50 »

Enough Trek references? I thought 85% of the ep was ripped from "Little Green Men" (DS9)... you could have replaced Zoidberg with Quark during the tests and interrogation scenes and had pretty much the same scene....
SHLEY

Delivery Boy
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« Reply #106 on: 09-18-2003 10:45 »

without a doubt, Roswell is definitely one of the funniest if not one of the best overall epps of Futurama.
VPActionRanger

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« Reply #107 on: 09-18-2003 12:55 »

very funny withe the best 3-D graphics OF ANY EPISODE. i was drooling over the close up of the tank treads. even the jeep was 3-d. *drools*
Metallica

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« Reply #108 on: 09-18-2003 19:07 »

how can bender be 4 years old when he was in the ground for over 1000 years?!?!?!??!?!??!?!?!??!?!!?
Cube_166

Professor
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« Reply #109 on: 09-18-2003 19:25 »

he was four years old before he was in the ground for over 1000 years.
Asylum-Fry

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« Reply #110 on: 09-18-2003 19:44 »

It's hard to explain but the first 4 years of Bender's life, he's also been in a hole in New Mexico, so... there's been two of him for a while, but he went back in time and created a loop..

He starts out in 2999, lives four years, goes back in time and his timeline intersects back into the normal one as he is in the hole. Meaning that I just proved that Fry had to be his own grandpa, because he has done it in a single universe continuum.

I feel smart  big grin
Metallica

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« Reply #111 on: 09-18-2003 20:06 »

congradulations!!!
Asylum-Fry

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« Reply #112 on: 09-18-2003 20:33 »

I loved the episode. I'm glad it got an Emmy, it deserved one. The whole thing was wonderful, especially the atomic bomb, Leela and Farnsworth's clothes, Fry having to be slapped around the face by Leela...

Also, when Fry throws his glass of rum because he's scared, it's just funny. I was rolling on the floor laughing at this episode, literally. Great stuff.

Also, two posts before I am a Starship Captain. Huzzah!
Zoop
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« Reply #113 on: 09-19-2003 10:23 »

I agree with you Asylum-Fry, this ep makes me roar with laughter every time I watch it. No other episode makes me laugh so much. it's one of my favorite.
Bendersfan1221

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« Reply #114 on: 10-24-2011 18:30 »

[Bump]

Sorry I just thought of something about this episode. Fry's father's entire side of the family has been name Yancy up until Fry. So why would Fry's grandfather on his dad's side be named Enos instead of Yancy. This is just something I thought of trying to figure out through PEEL. I've always wondered it.
spira

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« Reply #115 on: 10-25-2011 04:48 »

That's a valid point and a continuity error, perhaps? I do remember Yancy Sr. saying that the family has been Yancy all the way back at one point.
hobbitboy

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« Reply #116 on: 10-25-2011 12:44 »

Mr. Fry: Son, your name is Yancy, just like me and my grandfather and so on. All the way back to minuteman Yancy Fry, who blasted commies in the American Revolution.

Note that Mr. Fry (Philip's dad) doesn't say me and my father and so on. By being excluded from the list Mr. Fry implies that his father (Philip's grandfather) was not named Yancy.

Don't hate me, Trinity.  I'm just the messenger.
Bendersfan1221

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« Reply #117 on: 10-25-2011 20:06 »

Oh.. I forgot that... Hmm damn...
Solid Gold Bender

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« Reply #118 on: 01-05-2012 22:56 »

That's one hell of a goof.
UnrealLegend

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« Reply #119 on: 01-06-2012 02:38 »

This episode is absolutely brilliant, and one of the defining episodes of the series for me. It deserves nothing less than a 10/10.
That's one hell of a goof.
No it isn't.
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