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PEE Poll: Best Star trek movie
The Motion Picture   -1 (2.5%)
The Wrath Of Khan   -15 (37.5%)
The Search For Spock   -0 (0%)
The Voyage Home   -9 (22.5%)
The Final Frontier   -0 (0%)
The Undiscovered Country   -2 (5%)
Generations   -0 (0%)
First Contact   -12 (30%)
Insurrection   -0 (0%)
Nemesis   -1 (2.5%)
Total Members Voted: 39

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« Reply #40 on: 10-03-2003 17:08 »
« Last Edit on: 10-03-2003 17:08 »

Star Trek: Nemesis...
See also:
Halo
Read or Die

Fellowship of the ring, if you really wanna be picky.

TOTPD
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« Reply #41 on: 10-04-2003 06:12 »

Tied between First Contact and Wrath of Khan. :/
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« Reply #42 on: 10-06-2003 02:31 »

Is the first film ny good? I've seen the 2 disk DVD really cheap but i don't know if to get it.
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« Reply #43 on: 10-06-2003 12:24 »

It's different to the movies that follow it. There's very little action, and very silly costumes.  :p
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« Reply #44 on: 10-06-2003 15:37 »

I love it for it's nostalgia quality. The atmosphere is so spooky, same goes for the music. And when the Enterprise is inside V'Ger, you can really feel how huge the place is. However, for most people I would expect it to be quite boring.

(although, I personally prefer it to most of the other Trek films. Buit that's me.)
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« Reply #45 on: 10-06-2003 17:15 »
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And when the Enterprise is inside V'Ger, you can really feel how huge the place is.

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« Reply #46 on: 10-06-2003 17:51 »

 
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It's different to the movies that follow it. There's very little action, and very silly costumes.   :p

But it did give us the term V'Ger.  :p

Yes, it's quite different, but I like it. I especially like Spock and the connection he finds he shares with V'Ger. Not so fond of the whole Illia/Decker affair, but that's about the only bad thing I can name from TMP.
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« Reply #47 on: 10-13-2003 02:41 »
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Does anyone know if they will make special edition versions of the TNG films?
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« Reply #48 on: 10-13-2003 03:06 »

First Contact is by far the best st movie. insurrection and nemisis absolutly sucked.
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« Reply #49 on: 07-26-2007 17:12 »
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All that's known about it is ti'll be based around young Kirk and Spock and that Zachary Quinto (Sylar from Heroes) has been cast as Spock. Good news is Quinto, bad news is Spock, and soon Kirk, are indeed being recast.
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« Reply #50 on: 07-26-2007 17:31 »

I wonder if the new Trek prequel will be a 'Brokeback Mountain' type of male bonding?

I can say that I will refuse to watch this new movie - some things you don't mess with and recasting the original crew is one of them.
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« Reply #51 on: 07-26-2007 18:48 »

Nah, they already have done that in Star Trek V.  :p

Spock: "Captain, not in front of the Klingons."
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« Reply #52 on: 07-26-2007 18:55 »

Back on subject.  My favorite Trek movie was #2, The Wrath of Khan.  I saw the original series (including the pilot episode) when I was a kid, and this one was LIGHT YEARS ahead of the first film (which sucked).  Good story, good action, GREAT Shatner overacting; classic stuff. 

I'd have to say the 4th film, The Voyage Home, almost ties #2.  #4 was a lot funnier; I just love hearing Chekhov saying "Nuclear Wessels".  It's even given a serious nod in the Futurama episode "Where no fan has gone before".  It's a little too "happily frolicking while we're saving the whales PETA" for me, but to each his or her own...
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« Reply #53 on: 07-27-2007 03:15 »

For me, toss-up between The Motion Picture and Undiscovered Country.
TMP is a great and epic sci-fi flick with distinct echoes of 2001, but Undiscovered Country is more the epitome of Trek, and so I chose that.


I reserve judgement on the recasting until I have seen it.
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« Reply #54 on: 07-27-2007 04:06 »
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Spock: "Captain, not in front of the Klingons."

I refuse to acknowledge the Shatner production of Star Trek V: Death of a Francise as Trek of any canon.

And yes, that was a Brokeback Mountain moment.  I wanted to pull my eyes out while projectile vomiting during that scene...   :puke:

 
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Good story, good action, GREAT Shatner overacting; classic stuff. 

Actually during the filming of STII:TWOK Nicolas Meyer intentionally made Shatner do reteake after retake before filming the actual shot scene.  Meyer deliberately made Shatner exhausted so he wouldn't do his 'Shatner-esque' overacting.  The only scene where Shatner was allowed to be Shatner was the scene where he's trapped on the Genesis planet...

Kirk:  Kahn!  Bloodsucker!  You've managed to kill just about everybody else but like a poor marksman you... keep... missing... the... target!

KAHN!  KAHN!

Not that I have it memorized or anything.  ;)

Jimmy Doohan told that story several times.  I remember that Lisa and I went to a Trek convention in 1985 - Doohan talked about how great Nimoy was as a director in Search for Spock and The Voyage home, but dark days were on the horizon - Shatner was going to direct ST V.

He was right.
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« Reply #55 on: 07-27-2007 06:40 »
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I doubt between Undiscovered Country and First Contact..
but in the end FC wins by some bits so i go for FC..

But im surprised that almost no one likes Undiscovered Country.. it has the Excelsior come on!   :D
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« Reply #56 on: 07-27-2007 19:20 »

I liked the whole Cold War/collapse of Soviet Union resonation underpinning Undiscovered Country. The theme of old warriors reluctant to depart battlefields that have become as comfortable to them as a well-worn leather-backed chair is one that interests me.
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« Reply #57 on: 07-28-2007 03:53 »

First Contact. No question.

Yay for space zombies!

Also, Picard rocked out hardcore with that tommy gun.
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« Reply #58 on: 07-28-2007 06:34 »

 
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First Contact. No question.

Yay for space zombies!

Also, Picard rocked out hardcore with that tommy gun.

The. Borg. Are. Not. Zombies.

Resistance. Is. Futile.

You. Will. Agree.

The. Borg. Are. Not. Zombies.

Say it with me now.

The. Borg. Are. Not. Zombies.
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« Reply #59 on: 07-28-2007 06:59 »

Shut up..
or i will bring a lot of Defiants and Mirandas and fire at the following coordinates  :D
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« Reply #60 on: 07-28-2007 07:15 »

There's going to be a new movie soon, so I can't really vote in this thread.
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« Reply #61 on: 07-28-2007 07:33 »

 
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Originally posted by Javier Lopez:
Shut up..
or i will bring a lot of Defiants and Mirandas and fire at the following coordinates   :D

The. Borg. Are. Not. Zombies.
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« Reply #62 on: 07-28-2007 11:35 »

Oh the Borg were the ultimate enemy - totally unstopable and persistant.

Then they had to add Janeway to the mix.  After she finished with them, the Borg were as dangerous as a group of toddlers in daycare after being given Benadryl cough suryp.

ST: TNG had foreshadowing of a new super-enemy in its second year - the maggots that imbedded themselves in a persons spinal column.  Even though the Queen maggot was killed, it managed to send a message to its homeworld.

They never followed up on this story.
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« Reply #63 on: 07-28-2007 12:23 »

Voyager definitely ruined a lot of Trek, like the Borg and the Q.

Ralph, also remember that the Ferengi were supposed to replace the Klingons as the persistant enemy for TNG, and they kind of turned into comic relief.


On the Star Trek XI, they've now announced that both Zachary Quinto and Leonard Nimoy will portray Spock in the upcoming movie. I like that they got Quinto and Nimoy, but I'm not exactly sure about Quinto as Spock.


I thought I had been to this thread. Oh well, time to decide. For me, it's between Khaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan, The One With The Whales, and Borgs: The Movie. Voyage Home was more of a comedy, so that strikes that one out. I liked the TNG-ness of First Contact, but, to me, it was not as good as Khan. Khan was just a great adventure movie and in the vein of the Original Series more than the other films.
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« Reply #64 on: 07-28-2007 12:34 »

 
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ST: TNG had foreshadowing of a new super-enemy in its second year - the maggots that imbedded themselves in a persons spinal column.  Even though the Queen maggot was killed, it managed to send a message to its homeworld.

They never followed up on this story.

Which probably was a good decision. This story seemed a bit out of place in TNG...it had nice effects, though.  ;)
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« Reply #65 on: 07-28-2007 14:44 »

Voted for Khan eventually. Ralph was right. Janeway castrated the Borg. Shame, because they were at one point the height of badassery.
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« Reply #66 on: 08-14-2007 12:17 »
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*bump*

OK, no new star trek movie thread?
Great overview of Nimoy and Shatner at recent Star Trek Convention.  Futurama even gets a small nod.  Really captures the chemistry between the men.
 http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/news/article/2305003.html?page=0
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« Reply #67 on: 08-14-2007 17:45 »

Nimoy: "That's the thing where we have our heads in the jars"
Shatner: "That's certainly an improvement to where my head usually is"


Bwahahahahaha!

Nimoy then decided on the spot that he would invite James and his whole family, at his own expense, to the December '08 premiere of the "Star Trek" movie.

Awesome. What a great man. And a lucky kid.

"We'll dye it," Nimoy said. "I'll diet too!" Shatner responded, and added, "Tell that to J.J."

Heh heh heh... classic.

Nimoy seems to be suggesting he'll be playing Spock himself. If that's the case it'll be a flashback kind of story based on his recollections.
Shame Bill's not gonna be in it.
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« Reply #68 on: 08-28-2007 13:47 »

Something very different.

Star Wreck:  In The Pirkinning - a Finnish effort to satirize the Trek and Babylon 5 francises and very effective.  Don't laugh - even though it's subtitled in English I got most of the jokes.  The space battle sequences are better than anything used in Star Trek Enterprise.

Check it out - the download for this episode is lengthy if you use dialup.
 
 http://www.starwreck.com/
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« Reply #69 on: 08-28-2007 14:10 »

That's hilarious.  I especially liked the "Tactical is still missing a chair" remark.  Great stuff!
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« Reply #70 on: 08-28-2007 15:03 »
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I found it humorous that they used the same actor to portray the same characters (Fukov and Festerbester) that Walter Koening played on Trek and Babylon 5.

The name Sergey Fukov has deeper meening than just a play on words to make a homorous name.  Fukov was the grossly incapable nuclear plant engineer who was directly responsible for the Chernobyl incident.

Also stating that the Constitution Refit Kalinka was a "cheap bucket relegated to patrolling the outback for a few years, or until it rusted out" was classic.  the Trek francise shitted over the Constitution class after ST:TNG came on.  They used other ships from TOS era except the Constitution class - the only exception was ST:ENT when they bought back the Constitution class Defiant, NCC 1764.  That also happened to be the only watchable expisode of ST:ENT...

I can't state just how well this was done.  It's a pity nobody made a comment about the ships not having seatbelts in the chairs...
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« Reply #71 on: 08-29-2007 08:42 »
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The Trek francise shitted over the Constitution class after ST:TNG came on.  They used other ships from TOS era except the Constitution class - ...

Well, I think it's fair to say that they  reused the Reliant and Excelsior models in TNG for financial reasons. They simply didn't have enough money to build every model that wanted, especially when most of the time these were only need a few flyby shots.
Thus they reused the models from the films.
Also, reusing the Constitution model might have caused some confusion, as they could not be sure that everybody was aware that there had been other ships that belonged to the same class as the Enterprise.

(Not to mention that TOS featured these other Constitution-class ships for the same reason they had reused the ships from the ST films in TNG.   ;) )
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« Reply #72 on: 08-29-2007 14:29 »
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Oh please, any Trek fan knows that TOS had episodes where other Constitution class ships were used:  The Doomday Machine, The Omega Glory, The Tholian Web and The Ultimate Computer come to mind immediately. 

Yes. TOS only use Constitution class ships because they were on a tight budget, but it would cause a little nostalgia for a Constitution class ship to make a flyby in any of the other Trek shows.  They had several different models of The Enterprise in various states of damage available - it would have been easy to have used one of these models at any time and not have people think it was the Enterprise NCC 1701-A; Trek fans are just a little smarter than that.   :)
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« Reply #73 on: 08-30-2007 04:34 »
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Trek fans perhaps, regular viewers perhaps not.   ;)

Besides, they wanted to show the future of Star Trek (well, sort of), so would it not have been a bit irritating had they shown a Constitution class starship next to the Enterprise-D? Not to mention that it had been branded to be outdated already in 2280s?

And I think had they CGI available when they made TNG they would have reused none of the models from the films. After all, the Starfleet ships weren't the models they used again for TNG.

Also, ST:ENT wasn't the first post-TOS show to feature a Constituion class starship. This honor belongs to one of the best DS9 episodes ever, Trials and Tribble-ations.   :p
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« Reply #74 on: 08-30-2007 18:26 »

 
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Something very different.

Star Wreck:  In The Pirkinning - a Finnish effort to satirize the Trek and Babylon 5 francises and very effective.  Don't laugh - even though it's subtitled in English I got most of the jokes.  The space battle sequences are better than anything used in Star Trek Enterprise.

Check it out - the download for this episode is lengthy if you use dialup.
 
 http://www.starwreck.com/

A friend of mine sent me this about a year or two ago. At least, I think it's the same thing...

You've gotta admit, the space battle scenes were fantastic.

And of course, my favorite line:

"Oh no! Aliens have crystallized Kefir!"

  :laff:   :laff:   :laff:

I missed the next few lines.  :)
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« Reply #75 on: 10-07-2007 17:58 »

This is a clip from the 2005 AFI Life Achievement Award: A Tribute to George Lucas show. In it, William Shatner comes on stage and sings to George Lucas. Later on, Shatner is joined by a group of dancing stormtroopers on stage.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p55YD8QhQ3o
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« Reply #76 on: 10-09-2007 09:18 »
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And of course, who can forget Mr. Shatner's memorable performance of ‘Rocket Man’ in 1978?  ;)

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« Reply #77 on: 10-12-2007 16:10 »

Back to the upcoming Star Trek film:

Simon Pegg as Scotty?
Eric Bana as villain?

 :eek:
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« Reply #78 on: 10-12-2007 16:22 »

I heard Matt Damon was going to be Kirk.

[Team America]Nguuh! Matt Damon [/TA]
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« Reply #79 on: 10-12-2007 18:53 »

Simon Pegg as Scotty? NO WAY!
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