Ralph Snart
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I'm too much of an old TOS fan. They're already screwing with canon by making Spock a full-blooded Vulcan instead of a half-Human half-Vulcan hybrid. The Romulans from the future are trying to kill Kirk. Why? The Klingons were the ones that hated Kirk. Spock was the one who surrendered to the Romulans and stole valuable military technology from them.
I'm sure that I will detest every moment of this recasted prequel.
If Hollywood wants a decent Trek movie, call the boys in Finland. The gang of Star Wreck have proven that they can make a fantastic movie on a tight budget. Give them some Hollywood money and watch them work.
Of course I'm an old, ancient fan. I guess I should be more tolerant of fresh ideas...
Oh Hell No! I'm gonna stick my heels in the sand as I take my Geritol tablets and DEMAND that Spock continue to be a Vulcan/Human hybrid.
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Nixorbo
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His mother is Winona Ryder.
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Xanfor
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Originally posted by Ralph Snart:
Oh Hell No! I'm gonna stick my heels in the sand as I take my Geritol tablets and DEMAND that Spock continue to be a Vulcan/Human hybrid. What the hell!? When did he change? What have I missed? I just watched Journey to Babel yesterday. Amanda was quite definitely Spock's mother, and she was quite definitely human. And that, my friends, was quite definitely canon. I have a feeling I am going to be outraged!...
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Smitty
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Spock = pure Vulcan? What? Surely Nimoy of all people would have corrected that... error in the script before signing on?
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coldangel
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Originally posted by Xanfor: Blimey, this had better be good... If the film actually features the construction of the Enterprise, then the canon states that her first Captain is Robert April... yet the character of Christopher Pike (the SECOND Captain) has been cast... Grrr...
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coldangel
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Originally posted by Ralph Snart: Of course I'm an old, ancient fan. I guess I should be more tolerant of fresh ideas...
Ben Stiller has been cast as Khan. Hah, I kid, I kid...
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coldangel
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Google Future. You can read news reports that haven't happened yet.
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coldangel
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Originally posted by i_c_weiner: It could've used more Shatner. Old Kirk is dead. Dead dead dead. Picard stole his toupé before burying him. Also - where did folk get the info that they're making Spock a full-Vulcan? That sounds dubious to me...
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coldangel
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Originally posted by Bendersfan1221: Kirk is awesome how could they have killed him? In a suitably heroic manner. Didn't you see Generations?
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Ralph Snart
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Originally posted by Bendersfan1221:
That's why I was asking where the info came from. Trekmovie.com. I'll find the appropriate link later. It was state when it was revealed that Winnona "Sticky Fingers" Ryder was to be cast as Spock's mother.
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Xanfor
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« Reply #139 on: 01-21-2008 07:56 »
« Last Edit on: 01-21-2008 07:56 »
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Bad Snarty.No one here has any optimism anymore. I hope that I will not be alone in actually waiting to see this movie before passing judgement. I've heard no explict negative news in order to entice me to do so, and in fact, I've heard loads of great stuff from Mr. Nimoy himself. Really, Amanda a Vulcan, Ralph? It's more along the lines of common sense; not listening to rubbish like that...
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Ralph Snart
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To Xanfor:
You do realize that startrek.com is now a dead website? The webmaster and crew were fired immedately after giving support to the Writer's Strike back in December. Any "updates" are suspect to me - even when it was still operational.
What do you expect Nimoy to say? "The movie is a smoldering piece of crap?" Please - it's the first paying gig he's had since he was hawking Motrin a couple of years ago. He's obviously brain damaged from photographing all those hideously obese women over the years.
As for the weekly thing on Trekmovie.com with comments about Shatner not being involved in the movie - in wrestling it's call "a work". Shatner's participation while the movie is being filmed is publicity. You can be sure his fat, bloated, bald, egotistical self will be involved in the movie.
This movie will be worse than the "Lost In Space" movie from a few years ago.
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coldangel
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Originally posted by Bendersfan1221: Not yet. Just watch it. You don't need to have seen TNG, just be aware of its existence.
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coldangel
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Javier - the construction shot might just be promotional material, not an actual scene form the film. I'd hope so, because arc-welders!?
I mentioned Robert April earlier. He hasn't been cast, but Kirk won't be Captain because Captain Christopher Pike (TOS: The Cage, The Menagerie) has been cast. He's NCC-1701's second Captain, I know...
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Ralph Snart
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By canon, the Enterprise, Constitution class, NCC 1701 was built in 2245. It's first CO was Robert April (revealed and accepted as canon from ST: TAS). The next CO was Christopher Pike and then James T. Kirk.
Also by canon, the Constitution Class Starship is not designed to land on planets or enter their atmosphere (Tomorrow is Yesterday).
So is the Enterprise getting a major refit or they altering canon by making this a new ship? Is it being build on land to be launched or is in an enclosed space staion orbitng Earth?
Granted it is a beautiful sight.
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Tweek
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Sometimes hi-tech things can't do things that older versions can, for example planes in the Second World War could take off and land from short grass strips but modern aircraft need long hard runways to operate from.
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Nixorbo
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Nobody wants to hear about your long hard runway, Tweek.
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coldangel
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Originally posted by Javier Lopez: Yeap.. its curious that the technological huge more advanced Constitution class 100 years more advanced than the NX class is not able to fly into atmosferes and the NX can (in one ep they bombed some target in NY past and they fly into the atmosfere clearly... )
NCC-1701 flew into Earth's atmosphere in that episode where they accidentally went back in time and brought that Air Force pilot onboard... I forget the name.
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