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The whole "the remake ruined the original" and "they're raping my childhood" is probably the worst part of the whole "remember the 80s/90s" bandwagon
General question: Do you all consider it a remake or just a reinterpretation when the source material is a book, short story, or play? For instance, I really love the 2006 Masterpiece Theater version of Jane Eyre and would not call it a "remake" of the 1940s version with Orson Welles. Likewise I much prefer the 2004 version of "The Manchurian Candidate" to the Angela Lansbury version from the 60s. Taken literally, yes, the director and actors are making a new version of the same story, but I wouldn't put it in the same category as something where the primary source material was an original screenplay. A reproduction of "Heathers" or "Easy Rider" would be a real remake. Incidentally, I did not care for Easy Rider. The best thing to come of it is the Venture Bros' spoof on the final scene of the movie.
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It's more tolerable than Temple of Doom, that's for sure.
Temple of Doom is a few minutes shorter, and is so much better for it. Plus, I really like the minecart chase from that movie. Perhaps it has something to do with having seen it at a much younger and more impressionable age. The best thing to come of it is the Venture Bros' spoof
This is true of much.
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It's more tolerable than Temple of Doom, that's for sure. And no, I won't take that back because it's absolutely true and you all know it. And if you don't then you should watch Temple of Doom again and try not to kill yourself.
I actually agree with this (and yes I saw the original movies long before I saw the new movie). I don't necessarily hate Temple of Doom, but I'd definitely put Kingdom of the Crystal Skull slightly above it. My favourite is still The Last Crusade. I've only seen the newest one and it's possibly the worst movie I've ever seen. It doesn't exactly make me want to get off my butt to see the others.
You really should see the others (especially The Last Crusade!) as they're really good. Well, except for Temple of Doom which is not as good but you should still watch it. It makes you appreciate The Last Crusade more.
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AllEggsIn1Basket

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Who doesn't love muttering "The penitent man shall pass?"
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« Reply #302 on: 12-14-2013 16:09 »
« Last Edit on: 12-15-2013 04:04 »
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The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug (3D) After a short prologue*, the pace changes nicely from the start of this one than the last, no time for tea and crumpets and a sing-song this time, fucking run you little hairy bastards! All the story beats play out nicely, a bit of very obvious CGI in a few places. My favourite part was showing Gandalf doing wizard stuff on his little side quest, and Mirkwood and the spiders were kinda cool. * PJ cameo again!  A-
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The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug Too long.
Isn't that the case with all LOTR movies?
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« Reply #305 on: 12-15-2013 02:43 »
« Last Edit on: 12-15-2013 02:45 »
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I dislike having a film edited down to its essential elements, trimmed to fit into a neat little package. I want a film to draw me in until I become completely immersed in it. I want to savor a film, not have it handed to me in bite-sized chunks. The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug ...Too long...
A word of caution: never watch any of the epic early silent films, such as 'Wings', or you might not survive 
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The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug Too long.
Isn't that the case with all LOTR movies?
Yes. Though I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing; I actually thought the pace of An Unexpected Journey was spot-on for the most part. Then again, I love slow movies. "The Avengers" and "Man of Steel" were both criticised for starting too slow but I thought it was the best part of both. I still have to wait until Boxing Day for TDoS to come out here, so I'll just sit here awkwardly twiddling my thumbs.
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RiddickWait, Riddick's first name is Richard? Bahaha, kind of takes away his badass-ness: Richie Riddick, Ricky Riddick, Dick Riddick... So Pitch Black was cool and the game (Escape From Butcher Bay) was great, but Chronicles and this one are pretty weak: the acting and plot is pretty terrible, and some really low budget looking CGI doesn't help. The only good thing about the movie is one of Katee Sackhoffs (Starbuck) boobs is in it. D+
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Anchorman 2
Alright. Had a strange ending to it, some of the jokes got me cracking up.
B-
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That's high praise. And yet only a B+?
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I went to see Anchorman 2 the other day.
I barely made it to the "official" showtime thanks to holiday traffic. Nevertheless, I had several minutes of previews to spare, so I decided to stop by the concessions stand. It was past 4 PM and I hadn't eaten anything since breakfast, and there was no line. I paid the outrageous sum of $12 for a soda and a hot dog, and was then told that they had to cook the hot dog for me, so I'd just have to stand in the lobby while they accomplished the task of reheating a pre-cooked meat tube. IT TOOK THEM 15 MINUTES. In what world does it take 15 minutes to heat a hot dog? Bonus points for this bit of ridiculousness taking place in a venue where everything is supposed to run on a nice smooth schedule.
I would be more annoyed, but I mean, I missed a few minutes of a Will Ferrell movie. Not the end of the world.
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« Reply #314 on: 12-22-2013 06:51 »
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That's high praise. And yet only a B+?
I thought B+ was pretty good. But I mean it does have the Tangled template; it hits a lot of the same notes and character beats (for example Ana has a very similar "When Will My Life Begin" kind of song and motivation as Rapunzel did). But whereas Tangled is focused on the romance between Rapunzel and Flynn Rider, Frozen is at it's roots about the sister relationship between Ana and Elsa which is handled pretty well for the most part. The epilogue is somewhat muddled as well as the characterization of Elsa who has the best song in the movie but it's the most characterization her character has for the entire film. The thing this movie has over Tangled is a refined animation, it's only been a few years but it's clear that Tangled (while beautiful) still wasn't smoothed out in terms of animation. The only reason I mention Wicked is because Idina Menzel is in both that and Frozen, her singing is just wonderful. So yeah if anything I think I'm being a bit generous with the B+, but there's nothing I outright hated or even disliked and I do recommend it (the snowman was pretty stupid but they handle him on a very low-level of obnoxiousness). The crime of this film is how it was marketed, the movie is a lot better than the trailers would have had you believed. EDIT: I've been waffling back and forth because I'm wondering if this had come out before Tangled, I'd probably be saying that Tangled borrows from Frozen. I mean sure all the Disney princess movies have similar beats they all hit but because Frozen and Tangled were released relatively close together and the character designs of Ana/Elsa alone are interchangeable with Rapunzel, I can't help but compare them. But while Frozen is funny I think one reason I love about Tangled is that it does acknowledge the silliness and weirdness of a fairy tale movie on an almost mocking level. Bottom line: Frozen has high points and certain things done right but Tangled overall does everything consistently with better results.
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I was wondering whether Frozen would be all that different to Tangled - I thought it was a bit weird that the main character seems to look almost exactly the same (or maybe all blondes just look alike to me in real life?). I still want to see it, though. But it's going to be on during school holidays so I guess I can't  Stupid kids, why can't they have their own cinema? We finally get some money up in this bitch and we can't even go and see a movie in an empty cinema with it. If/when I see it, I am going to be thinking about your claim to best song of the post-2000's, Spacedallian. I really quite enjoy/ed Tangled songs, even if I See the Light gave off serious A Whole New World vibes, and I hadn't thought I'd really be able to enjoy new Disney songs past the age of 10..
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