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Andrew Garfield played the best role as Spiderman. Toby Maguire is a weird, self-indulgent, goggle-eyed freak who couldn't act his way out of a WWC match.
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One thing I liked about Amazing Spiderman was that the secret identity drama was dispensed with by Peter revealing his identity to his love interest from the beginning. Otherwise, it seemed inferior to the original Spiderman films.
I hope one day we can have superhero films that don't feel the need to flesh out the origin story. For some, like Superman, we already know it, and for others, it's not really important. Take the Flash, for instance -- there would be little point in spending the first hour establishing why he has powers. That's not the point, the point is that he can run really really really really fast.
Wonder Woman is another character I believe the audience could do without extensive infodumping on, at least from the beginning. While the Amazons are an important part of her mythology (her dissent with their isolationist philosophy being one of the fundamental tenants of her personality), I think it would be interesting to approach them from a more mysterious point of view. We have no idea who she is, where she came from, or what makes her who she is. Let's find out about Themyscira in bits and pieces as the film progresses, much like the population in-universe do.
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I also preferred Sam Raimi's Spiderman over the new one, and did not see the point in rebooting a franchise so soon after it finished. I agree with Coldy about Toby Maguire being generally terrible, though I actually bought him as Peter Parker, so it didn't bother me so much.
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I did like Tobey Maguire as Spiderman because he got the dorky, awkward side of Spiderman down pat, where Andrew Garfield is way too football-jock type attractive to accurately portray such an outsider-type character. Garfield, while not completely destroying the role, makes the part feel so forced to me. It is interesting to see the Gwen Stacy route though, and I think casting Emma Stone was a smart choice.
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GEORGE ORWELL'S ANIMAL HOUSE:
4 kegs good, 2 kegs bad.
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Okay, Peter Parker hasn't been a dorky kid since the 1970s. Anybody born after that has grown up with Peter Parker the confident adult who lands hot babes and consistently outperforms all the guys who gave him shit in high school. I'm frankly sick of various rebooted spider-man media (film, tv and comics) dragging us back to the bookish teenaged Parker. It worked in the 1960s when all comicbook readers were bookish teenagers. Not so much now. I thought the new film provided a workable middle-ground between those two extremes, which also served to distinguish it from its predecessors.
I'd have preferred it to have been much darker and more adult, however. Like Todd MacFarlane's run in the early 90s. Bleak and violent. But I started reading the comics right in the middle of Maximum Clonage, and I'm one of only seven people on Earth who enjoyed that arc and its tone.
I also despise Tobey Maguire at a cellular level. As a person, he is an arrogant, self-absorbed shit, and my opinion of an actor always carries over to my ability to enjoy their films. That's unfair to the films, perhaps, but I can't change it. For the same reason I'm incapable of enjoying anything with Tom Cruise in it. When dickhead hurt his back and they thought he might not be able to come back and do Spider-Man 2, Jake Gyllenthal was floated as a possible replacement. That could have been interesting. That was the best of the films anyway though. Don't get me wrong, I like the movies - I can't not, though. It's Spider-Man.
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cartoonlover27

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Monsters University
I thought this was cute. Not as good as the original, but movies usually aren't. I loved the animation, as I always love Pixar animation, and I think there were lots of funny scenes. Overall, it was a really good film.
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« Reply #213 on: 11-23-2013 06:09 »
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Thor: The Dark WorldI enjoyed it immensely. It had an interesting plot (even if the villain was ridiculously shallow) and I found the action really entertaining. And if there's one thing I've learned about Loki, it's that he's become much more cunning and deceptive since the Avengers. And speaking of which... the part with Captain America was hilarious something/10 it felt like the script was re-written to pump it full of funny Joss Whedon-y dialogue, ala The Avengers, but it just ended up being full of downright horrible dialogue that's trying too hard, ala Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
I thought a lot of the jokes were genuinely funny, but I agree that a few of them fell flat. I thought the bit with the car keys disappearing was particularly stupid.
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Yeah, I loved District 9. The style, the visuals, the story, the performances (and the little moments of comedy in the first half)... The whole thing worked for me. It's easily one of my favourite films from recent years.  Not sure how it could be considered "dumb" in an era of cinema being littered with overblown action/superhero films, god-awful "parody" movies, and of course, Adam Sandler.
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District 9 had plot holes you could fly a giant alien spaceship through -- and they did...
But I loved it! The style and ambiance was captivating, and I was readily able to suspend belief.
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Catching Fire AMAZING, this was one of the best movies I've ever seen. It's so thrilling, the acting was spectacular, everything was brilliant, it was better than the first, which I thought wouldn't be possible. The plot was phenomenal, it brought the book to life. It had so much more action than The Hunger Games and I couldn't catch one mistake. I don't want to ruin anything for anyone, so I'll just say it leaves you hanging and I can not wait for the last one that will come out next year. Lets just say it's a movie you will want to watch over and over and over and over and over again. 9.9/10 GO SEE THIS MOVIE!!
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Catching Fire AMAZING, this was one of the best movies I've ever seen. It's so thrilling, the acting was spectacular, everything was brilliant, it was better than the first, which I thought wouldn't be possible. The plot was phenomenal, it brought the book to life. It had so much more action than The Hunger Games and I couldn't catch one mistake. I don't want to ruin anything for anyone, so I'll just say it leaves you hanging and I can not wait for the last one that will come out next year. Lets just say it's a movie you will want to watch over and over and over and over and over again. 9.9/10 GO SEE THIS MOVIE!!
It makes sense; The second book was better, too.
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ShinyMetal***

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I hope you do too because it is magnificent  Did you see the first one?
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Okay, Peter Parker hasn't been a dorky kid since the 1970s. Anybody born after that has grown up with Peter Parker the confident adult who lands hot babes and consistently outperforms all the guys who gave him shit in high school. I'm frankly sick of various rebooted spider-man media (film, tv and comics) dragging us back to the bookish teenaged Parker. It worked in the 1960s when all comicbook readers were bookish teenagers. Not so much now. I thought the new film provided a workable middle-ground between those two extremes, which also served to distinguish it from its predecessors. Yay! Someone who knows about ASM from after the Steve Ditko era. Coldy is correct, Parker quickly outgrew his insecurity and even his glasses (superpowers will do that to a lad) and if you take the comic canon in its entirety then "Midtown High's only professional wallflower" is clearly the smallest part of his story. I'd have preferred it to have been much darker and more adult, however. Like Todd MacFarlane's run in the early 90s. Bleak and violent. But I started reading the comics right in the middle of Maximum Clonage, and I'm one of only seven people on Earth who enjoyed that arc and its tone. Here's where we part ways. MacFarlane got too big for his "can't draw feet for shit" boots and demanded a comic of his own to write, at which point he tried to make Spider-Man, as you say, "bleak and violent". That isn't Spider-Man. If you want that, there's a wealthy, emotionally damaged chap living in Gotham who I'm sure will oblige. As far as clonage goes, my approach was basically this: I don't care who the real Parker is, I just want to keep reading about the same guy who I've been reading about since the 70s. You know, that guy who went to the Secret Wars and picked up that alien costume and had all those battles with the Hobgoblin and married Mary Jane and every other thing that was in those approx 200 issues. I stopped reading new stuff around the clone time and just went for back issues. But to now contradict what was said before about the "bookish nerd" I must confess that Parker remains insecure throughout his superhero career but he learns to hide it and the main way he shields himself is with his quips and humour. Scared to death the boy/man is, so he jokes to stop himself thinking about it. One thing that they haven't managed to get across in any of the films for me is Parker's main driving motivation: guilt. Yeah, they've done the Uncle Ben is dead because of me bit but, in any of the movies, do you really feel he's out there swinging through the city because of that?
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he tried to make Spider-Man, as you say, "bleak and violent". That isn't Spider-Man. If you want that, there's a wealthy, emotionally damaged chap living in Gotham who I'm sure will oblige. Insufficient. Everything should be bleak and violent. Parker's always been angst-ridden in one way or another. I saw that period of the books as a shift from whiney angst to a more mature, brooding angst. As far as clonage goes, my approach was basically this: I don't care who the real Parker is, I just want to keep reading about the same guy who I've been reading about since the 70s. I enjoyed the convolution of plot during the clone saga - the various twisting arcs and the uncertainty re: truth. But then, I was an X-Files fan as well and liked the same thing about that series. Scared to death the boy/man is, so he jokes to stop himself thinking about it. Which is the impression I got from the new guy. Have you had a look at 'The Superior Spider-Man'? Otto has taken over Pete's body and is being Spider-Man in his own way.
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My favourite part was the scene at the end Setting up Days of Future Past with an inexplicably resurrected Charles Xavier and re-powered Magneto, and also the subtly-implied future return of Jean Grey. As in the comics, death is only ever a temporary hindrance to these characters.
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ShinyMetal***

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I'm pretty sure UL is talking about the movie.
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coldangel

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I'm pretty sure UL is talking about the movie.
You lament a thin plot in a film based on a super-hero comic. I just think that's a funny sentiment.
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