Watchmen Movie

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The main problem with this film (the rest I feel are minor and don't need to be rambled about)  at that would Ozymandius. I fekt no empathy for the character and dispite what he claimed it seems he had no empathy for anyone else. In the comics Ozy was calm collected and you could see he cared in the movie he often came off as vindictive and a little bit of and arse.

Not trying to pick on you, or anything, so please don't take offense to this.

The way I always read the entire Ozy scheme was him being an ass.

He got the entire idea at the "Crimebuster's" meeting, based on the Comedian's rant.  He was doing the whole damn thing, just to prove Comedian wrong about whather or not they could actually make a world changing difference.

That is why they made Ozy in charge of the meeting, in the movie version, to drive that point farther home.

So, even though he had a grand scheme, and seemed to care, he was always a vindictive little ass.  It was all his way of proving an intellectual point, based on the idea of him being, "the smartest man on the cinder"

(Seriously, that is why that scene ends on Ozy's determined profile in the comic, even though it is still the Comedian talking.)

[Reply #201 on:]

I didn't see either until well after they'd been on dvd.

I think Rorschach has to die.... He's the sacrificial scapegoat of humanity, because his morality is so unflinching.

The sex scene could have been shorter.... but in my opinion, it's just mirroring real life.... and it wasn't that tasteless.  Also, I completely disagree on the blue wang thing.  I didn't keep count, but it popped up, what maybe 3 times?  And unless you're looking for it, it's barely noticeable because jon is glowing like a damned christmas tree.

I agree on the Rorschach child abductor fiasco.  Much better in the novel.... my guess is they wanted to show how far Rorschach had gone, and the most graphically intense thing they could come up with was the meatclever bit.  At least they left in Rorschach throwing the dogs through the windows.

And the fake identities thing was lost to save the film from being 3 hours long.  They would've had to go in-depth about how far reaching the Keene Act had gone.  I felt it was justified to remove that part of the story for the movie's consideration; however, I would have liked it to have been more impressed upon just how much the police were against Rorschach.  At least a simple dialogue between the detectives saying how much they wanted to catch him or something.

One change that I found very completing was how Nite Owl II beat up Ozi after Rorschach died.  It was emotional, and it felt real.  Took out that second sex scene.... probably why they extended the Archie one.

[Reply #202 on:]

The sex scene could have been shorter.

It was long enough for me to have a quiet pull in the cinema.

I just saw the movie again and I realized something that was bothering me about the final scenes in Karnak. Rorschach's line in the graphic novel... after the others speak about keeping Adrian's deed secret he quietly mutters "Joking, of course." That's my favorite bit of dialogue in the whole book, and they didn't include it in the movie. In the book he didn't become loud and emotional until Jon confronted him out in the snow. That's a petty nitpick, I know - I just really like the line, the way he just quietly and offhandly dismisses all their philosophizing.


EDIT: I just read this on Wikipedia. I hope it's someone's sick joke.

Sequel

Although director Zack Snyder has said that he will not be involved in a Watchmen sequel or prequel, Bill Crudup has reported that he (and others) have already signed a contract for a follow-up. [2]

[Reply #203 on:]

I should hope so too.  I wouldn't find it unconceivable though..... unfortunate as that is.

[Reply #204 on:]

WATCHMEN was special in the way that there's really no way to have a sequel.  With the death of Rorschach, no Comedian flashbacks and Dr. Manhattan leaving Earth, all that would be left would be Nite Owl II, Silk Spectre II and Ozymandias.

There is no way to replace the dead characters and I'd be really pissed about a prequel to the days of WATCHMEN prior to the Keene Act and even more pissed if Dr. Manhattan suddenly found a new power and bought Rorschach back to life.

No, despite some of the nit-picks about the movie, in my opinion it fucking rocked and there's no way to recapture that magic.

It was long enough for me to have a quiet pull in the cinema.

Coldy, are you channeling Wanky?

Coldy at theatre, sitting behind a couple of people:

Guy in front of Coldy:  "What the fuck just sprayed the back of my head?!?

Woman next to man, looking behind him, eyes widening as she watches Coldy zipping his baseball-bat-sized dong back into his pants: "Relax honey, I really need to speak to the guy sitting behind you.  It may take a while, so go back home without me."

[Reply #205 on:]

How'd you know it was that big!?

[Reply #206 on:]

watchmen was really damn good - better than the graphic novel in some ways (i never really liked the giant squid monster thing). i can't wait for the really ultra-super-special edition with the black freighter story to come out on dvd.

[Reply #207 on:]

C'mon, the movie wasn't that bad.

Next to his body was scrawled in blood, "Where was the squid?"

[Reply #208 on:]

Saw too much of Manhattan's cock, realized he was gay, and couldn't live with it.

[Reply #209 on:]

Just bought the director's cut today!

Just finished the movie. Honestly my complaints about the movie are nitpicking worthy:

-For example, probably my favorite panel in the book is a shot of Nite Owl in his 'snow owl suit' on that little scooter riding to Adrian's lair.



It just makes me happy, but in the movie there's not that awesome snow owl suit nor is there a scooter. Why not Zach Snyder, it's amazing!

-The death of Hollis is so sad, he's a great character, though I think it's different in the movie than it was in the book. Despite that I liked the extra scenes with him, it just breaks your heart when he is killed.

-The Silk Spectres are whores. Not that there's anything wrong with it, I just really realized it this time.

-They really didn't do Ozymandias right. To me I kinda picture him like Superman turning into a jerk. You're supposed to empathize with him and be more surprised by the revelation that he's behind everything. The movie makes it pretty obvious that he's not a great guy. That's the only real complaint I have.

Other than that I was still very impressed with the movie and I thoroughly enjoyed it. Bonus features were really lacking though with only 3 things to offer (one being a music video, and seriously who watches those?)

[Reply #210 on:]

As for me this movie is rather boring and plotless but it is only my thoughts a lot of my friends enjoyed this movie a lot!

[Reply #211 on:]

Plotless? Plotless?!
Get the hell out, noob.

[Reply #212 on:]

As for me this movie is rather boring and plotless but it is only my thoughts a lot of my friends enjoyed this movie a lot!

Have you read the novel, 3d? I would recommend it....
The movie is a movie. The novel is much more artfully done.

[Reply #213 on:]

I thought the movie was a work of art, myself. After seeing it, I ordered the novel on amazon. I see why it's so highly regarded...but the changes made in the movie version all seemed to be good changes, and all of the cuts seemed to be good omissions.

So is there something I am missing about the Black Freighter? It was a cool story, but I'm not sure if I understood its significance to the rest of the story. Is there some kind of symbolism I am missing?

[Reply #214 on:]

There's loads of symbolism you can draw from it, the dead bodies he uses as a raft are the people Veidt kills to get him to his end, which turns out to be madness like the pirate guy... or something, it's all good.

[Reply #215 on:]

can't wait for the ultimate edition with all the Black Freighter stuff added

[Reply #216 on:]

Yeah, but that's not till friggen october some time! Booo!