Watchmen Movie

[Reply #160 on:]

I want to go to Watchmen, but it's still no passes. ARGH

[Reply #161 on:]

Okay. disregard that previous post. I just got back from WATCHMEN.
Short story short, I loved it! My expectation weren't that high, because I've never read the comic, and I expected to be a little lost and confused, but that wasn't the case at all! I'm very, very impressed with this movie. Fun, complex yet understandable, just well made all round. Way, way better than TDK. The music was good too, and I liked the credits song. (lol at 99luftballoons though, that was a little wtf, it's an okay song but...eh).
I was the only one in the theater who stayed during the credits, I hate when people just get up and leave. Do you have appreciation or respect at all?

I'm going to give it 9 or 9.5/10. 9.5 is more the "wow, this wasn't what I was expecting!"
I could watch it again right now.

[Reply #162 on:]

Saw it again.

Def saw the knot-top in the bar. Saw S.Q.U.I.D this time. Only saw it on a regular screen this time, not IMAX, so the Doc's penis was considerably smaller

EDIT: Also, LOL at Books liking My Chemical Romance!

[Reply #163 on:]

lol at 99luftballoons though, that was a little wtf, it's an okay song but...eh

Young people...

[Reply #164 on:]

I don't know what that band is. :/ I need to see it again to decide! Stop judging me

Are you saying you like or dislike that song coldangel? I like the part of it when she's singing, but not the instrument part which is a crappy tune.

[Reply #165 on:]

It's just period music is all. They used songs that were popular at the times the film is set in.

I like all 80s music.

The band, by the way, (or singer, rather) is 'Nena'

[Reply #166 on:]

Books is EMO!

[Reply #167 on:]

Tell me what song it is so I can look it up on youtube.
I love 80's music too. My favourite is probably Take On Me.
And I can't be emo, I read Pitchfork today and saved the "best new albums" page to Booksmarks.

[Reply #168 on:]

99 Luftballoons. There is a version translated into English, titled 99 Red Balloons, but it's generally ignored in favor of the original.

Edit: I just realized you were talking about the end credit song.
Ignore me.

[Reply #169 on:]

Erm, I meant Chay to tell me the name of the emo ending song
I already knew about Luftballoons (and I don't like the english version)
Now let us all engage in a chorus of Don't Stop Believin'  

Edit: I saw your edit after I made this post  No worries CA, I'm looking forward to purchasing your book.

[Reply #170 on:]

Bob Dylan's 'Desolation Row', covered by My Chemical Romance. That's the end credit song. They should have used the original to keep it historical.

[Reply #171 on:]

The movie was good... there wasn't that much penis to be honest.... only shot where the penis seems almost deliberate is when Dr. Manhatten first fully forms his body in the bar or whatevs.... as I recall, in the novel, the center of focus was Jon's chest, showing his face... in the movie version, the center of focus is lower, and you don't even see jon's head.  But seriously, not that much penis, and complaining about it seems childish.

The sex scene wasn't ridiculously long either.... although on first viewing, some of the emotional responses in characters felt like they didn't have time to develop long enough.... such as Silk Spectre II leaving Dr. Manhatten, or Night Owl II and Silk Spectre II getting together..... but the novel generally had a slower pace compared to the movie, so it makes sense.  

Most of the changed parts fit well with the movie... speeding up the action of the storyline, as it was a movie and not a comic book.

Lastly.... this film, was loyally faithful to its source material.  All of the characters... look... and breathe, just like their comic counterparts.  Including Ozymandias... .I disagree with those who say he didn't fit.  Although I do agree, that he didn't seem to show enough empathy to really get the same feel out of the movie as you did in the book.  Although.... Jon had black hair in the movie.... I thought he looked better that way.  Also, Dr. Manhatten's voice was perfect.  All in all.... it was like watching the comic book.... animated and with sound and music, and the 80s.  I don't know what rating I would give it, but it was well worth the effort.

[Reply #172 on:]

I forget to mention I really loved the Mars scenes. For really no other reason than it was Mars, and beautiful.

[Reply #173 on:]

Hey PEEL. Long time no see. I am just stopping by to post some Watchmen love.

I have never read the comic, and truthfully didn't plan to see the movie until the day of. I had no idea what to expect going into it...

...man, I was blown away. Best movie I have seen in a long long time. Anybody who complains about the blue penis is probably too young to see this movie. Seriously, I was aware that it was on screen but I didn't fixate on it. There was a lot of other stuff going on that I could pay attention to.

Great great story. I cannot rave enough about this movie. Now I want to read the comics. Why oh why didn't I listen to you nerds in the first place? I can't believe it's taken me this many years to become a Watchmen believer.

[Reply #174 on:]

Welcome to the WATCHMEN family, Fishy!  Jump over to Amazon.com and buy the graphic novel.  You'll find it much more enjoyable than the movie (if that is believable.)

I have to admit that it has a certain nostalgia (not the colonge, from Veidt!) for me.  I bought the Graphic Novels every 2 months as they came out in the 80's.  The music, the MTV virals, etc., really appealed to me.  Being one of the first computer users in the 80's, I use to have fun on the old FIDOnet and WWIV BBS discussing each new issue (with a telephone line and a blazing fast 1200 baud modem - for that time, that was blistering fast.)

The opening credits scene with Bob Dylan music was a fantastic start to this movie - some complain about the pacing but I rather enjoyed it.  The lack of the squid, Hollis Mason's murder (which is on the movie's score DVD) and Dr. Malcomb Long's arc were minor diappointments to me (but Mason's murder will be on the DVD - the DVD will be 26 minutes longer than the 2:45 movie).

The ending with Laurie and Dan was deliberately set up as a way to possibly make a sequel, but with a 70% dropoff in sales in just one week, I don't see it happening (and really, WATCHMEN doesn't lend itself for a sequel unless Dr. Manhattan somehow brings Rorshach back from the dead).

http://www.newsarama.com/film/090314-watchmen-box-office.html

Who Watches the Watchmen? Apparently only comic book fans.

Box office tracker Exhibition Relations is already estimating Warner Bros.'
Watchmen is tracking to earn $16 million this weekend, its second in
release, a precipitous 70% drop over its $55 million opening frame.

The publication places the film's earnings at $84 million by the end of the
weekend, and estimates its total box office earnings will top out under $120
million, significantly under its estimated production and marketing budget
of $150m.

Blaming the film's inability to crossover to non-comic book fans,
ercboxoffice.com specifically sites the "buzz" over Dr. Manhattan's "glowing
phallus" as indicative of how it's being received among the general
populace.

(NOTE:  I agree - I really didn't care for seeing Dr. Manhattan's uncircumcized wang.)

The DVD will probably sell very well.  I know I'll be the first in line to buy one.

For everybody's information, Hitler was a WATCHMEN fanboy.  He was very disappointed in the movie.  Here's the proof:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIhHema5PNg

Enjoy!

[Reply #175 on:]

That's sad news.
But a hilarious video.

[Reply #176 on:]

That Hitler video is used for everything. I remember seeing Hitler as a Chicago Cubs fan during last year's MLB playoffs.

[Reply #177 on:]

By the way, that video clip is from Der Untergang, a brilliant German movie, you should watch it. It's disappointing Watchmen isn't doing as well or better than TDK, because it's superior in every way.

[Reply #178 on:]

Saw it again tonight. 3rd Viewing. Enjoyed it again. Still upset when Rorschach dies Sad we don't get to see the Bernies.

Irritated that the third ink blot looks nothing like the scene it cuts to...

[Reply #179 on:]

By the way, that video clip is from Der Untergang, a brilliant German movie, you should watch it. It's disappointing Watchmen isn't doing as well or better than TDK, because it's superior in every way.

Good I say.  Now people can keep their dick off it, and we won't have to worry about it being ruined for another approximately 40 years..... when the remake comes out.

[Reply #180 on:]

Welcome to the WATCHMEN family, Fishy!  Jump over to Amazon.com and buy the graphic novel.  You'll find it much more enjoyable than the movie (if that is believable.)

I'm one step ahead of you. I am definitely buying the graphic novel. Although for the one major change that I am aware of(Dr. Manhattan-like energy explosion instead of a giant alien squid), I prefer the movie. But I have a feeling I will still love the comic.

Too bad to hear about the box office drop off...although the news isn't surprising. I caught the movie this past friday night and the crowd was very small(although enthusiastic).

[Reply #181 on:]

It's because it was the movie that should have been made instead of the usual dumbfuck playing down to we're used to Hollywood ejaculating in our faces.

[Reply #182 on:]

...better than TDK, because it's superior in every way.

Not that that's saying much. 

[Reply #183 on:]

I care not for the lack of squid, I hated the damn thing.  I saw that first page of the last chapter and just went...WHAT!??!  Zack chose a route that 1) works, 2) engages the characters, rather than bypassing them.  Kudos.  He also made Rorschach's final scene very memorable, and dramatic.  Some things I would have changed to be more like the novel, like the scene with the therapist, I wanted the real "Burn dog-mans house down" scene with that chilling narration.  In essence, though This is a satisfying as hell movie.

[Reply #184 on:]

Troll, Call for /b/lackup or GTFO.

[Reply #185 on:]

So the thing that I've noticed is the constant complaining about Dr. Manhattan's wang. Seriously? Like that's the best thing to bitch about? Do the people who go see this movie not know what a penis is? Or is it the fact that it's blown up on the big screen and is blue that makes it the biggest topic of discussion for the movie?

My two cents: The sex scene went on too long. Dr. Manhattan had a penis. Ok, end of story.

I'm off on spring break tomorrow, gonna definitely try to pay-for-but-still-have-to-sneak-in again. Does anyone work in a theater currently or in the past? Is there some way that I can just get around the ID thing? I mean I have my license does that count for anything? I'll be 17 in December dammit! But I guess I just don't look like I'm old enough to see R movies. [sad face].

[Reply #186 on:]

You need to slut it up with some makeup, high-heels, and padded bra. And put a cigarette behind your ear. That's what I do.

[Reply #187 on:]

I don't think it so much a complaint as it is a talking point.

In the novel it was just more easily concealed. Whereas the movie it seemed to be on display. Plus it was quite a lit bigger then the book and it seemed to have a lot of time put into the physics of it... like whever he would walk, we'd make *WHOOOOSH* sounds.

[Reply #188 on:]

It was not nearly as prominent as you say.  Larger than the novel, but still not nearly prominent.  Man-ass... maybe.... but not Doc manhatten's thing.

Dally... buy a ticket to a movie.... then walk into Watchmen.  Simple enough.

[Reply #189 on:]

@ Spacedal:

It's worth the effort to see the first 6 minutes of the movie.  It explains a lot of things as the movie progresses.

[Reply #190 on:]

@ Spacedal:

It's worth the effort to see the first 6 minutes of the movie.  It explains a lot of things as the movie progresses.

I've already seen it once Ralph, opening night in fact. And I loved every minute of it! That movie kicked serious arse. You have no idea how bad I wanted to see this movie. But I've snuck into see R films so many times I figure they're gonna eventually catch me and kick me out.

[Reply #191 on:]

Hold on, watchmen was rated R over there?

[Reply #192 on:]

Their R is like out MA+ Bianca. they have AO of NC17 or whatever it is that is like OUR R.

[Reply #193 on:]

I've already seen it once Ralph, opening night in fact. And I loved every minute of it! That movie kicked serious arse. You have no idea how bad I wanted to see this movie. But I've snuck into see R films so many times I figure they're gonna eventually catch me and kick me out.

I've been waiting to see WATCHMEN on the big screen for longer than you've been alive.

As for the "R" rating thing, you probably look old enough to get in without any trouble.

I saw it again (3rd time for me) yesterday.  Malin Ackerman gets a lot of grief that she doesn't deserve.  She did Silk Spectre II fairly well.  The guys who did Rorschach, Nite Owl II and Comedian owned those parts and should get a big pat on the back for their performances.  I could have lived if the sex scene was 2-3 minutes shorter and Dr. Manhattan's blue wang wasn't so prominant in almost every frontal scene (in the graphic novel, it was there but "understated".)

I would have like to see some of the time that was dedicated to the sex scene given to Rorschach and the child killer.  The original scene in the graphic novel was so much better - Rorschach hacking the murderer's head with a meat cleaver was so beneath him - burning him (the murderer) in the house with the only means of escape being using a hacksaw to cut off his right hand was so much superior and Rorschach's style.

I have to ask the question:  Where the hell did Silk Spectre II get the gun she shot Ozymandias with?  It's not like she has any pockets or secret hiding places in her latex outfit.

Lastly:  I have no problems with The Comedian getting killed but I have always hated that Rorschach got killed.  Granted his secret identity was blown and he'd have every hoodlum in the world stalking him, he was by far my favorite character.

I also preferred the graphic novel's ending better - Dan and Laurie are using fake identities (calling themselves Mr and Mrs Hollis) and are on the run. (I suspect that New York City's PD had more important things going on at the time.  I would expect that Dan and Laurie would be considered among the 6 million plus people killed in New York City.)

The music and the score:  Almost perfect.  I have to agree that The Sound of Silence may not have been the best match for The Comedian's funeral but almost everything else worked and meshed very well.

Have I mentioned that I enjoyed this movie much more than I enjoyed The Dark Knight?

[Reply #194 on:]

Me too Ralph, by far. It makes me a little angry how DK gets so much praise, I just don't get it

[Reply #195 on:]

Watchmen would have enjoyed the same universal acclaim that TDK got if only Jeffrey Dean Morgan had died after filming was complete.
Studios ought to consider killing lead actors after filming wraps up - it's great for business.

[Reply #196 on:]

Watchmen would have enjoyed the same universal acclaim that TDK got if only Jeffrey Dean Morgan had died after filming was complete.
Studios ought to consider killing lead actors after filming wraps up - it's great for business.

Morbid.  But True.

TDK publicity machine certainly got every bit of sympathy they possibly could from Heath Ledger's death...

[Reply #197 on:]

Same thing worked for Wrath of Khan when Leonard Nimoy died at the end.
...wait, no... I'm confusing reality and fiction.

[Reply #198 on:]

I don't think so, I've never heard of Jeffrey Dean Morgan before Watchmen, but I knew who Ledger was.
Also Watchmens viral marketing wasn't as intense as TDK's was, I think it helped TDK more too.
Also Batman is way more mainstream!

[Reply #199 on:]

I liked TDK, and I HATED Batman Begins with a firey passion that rivals the heat of the sun itself.  And being a selfish twit, I couldn't have cared less that heath ledger was dead when I watched it. Also, I didn't see TDK until it had been on dvd for months, while BB I saw during the peak of its hype. So meh to all of you.