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NastyInThePasty

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« #240 : 05-29-2008 22:07 »

 
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Originally posted by Frisco17:
Ok....On that akward note. I have some ship related news about BWABB.


Actually, there's a smidgen of Fry/Leela interaction at the end...


Then again, considering the "Anthology Of Interest"-like preview for Bender's Game, maybe any significant Fry/Leela stuff will have to be resolved in Into The Wild Green Yonder.
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« #241 : 05-29-2008 23:18 »

I HATE THAT BUTTON!!! I HATE THAT ******* RESET BUTTON!!

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Ahem...

Anyways.. Maybe they just all have short term memory?

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« #242 : 05-30-2008 16:14 »

 
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Originally posted by coldangel_1:

There is no continuity at all in the show beyond pivotal 'anchor points', like Fry's cryogenic freezing, the Brainspawn, and such. Beyond those mythology elements, every depiction is a disconnected standalone, just like The Simpsons, so gnashing teeth over the show not displaying any repurcussions from the previous episode(s) is pointless.

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« #243 : 05-30-2008 19:15 »

I did mean it like that.
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« #244 : 05-30-2008 20:31 »

And that was all masterfully put, mister.

And, according to what's being said about the movie, there goes the Leela-showing-jealousy idea, apparently.
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« #245 : 05-30-2008 20:48 »

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Originally posted by fryandlemon:
Anyways.. Maybe they just all have short term memory?
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I that or the writers do. Or maybe it's us!  :eek:
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« #246 : 05-31-2008 18:09 »

It's a case of WeDon'tWantToConfuseThoseWhoHaven'tYetWatchedThePreviousInstall ments-ism.
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« #247 : 05-31-2008 18:17 »
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I was thinking earlier and realised something. It seems like Fry dating this Coleen is very out of character. Especially considering that almost everything he did in BBS had something to do with Leela or her Narwhal substitute. I'm probably not the only one who thinks it's strange? Though my "Coleen is conected to Yivo somehow" theory hasn't been proven/disproved yet, the stuff I'm hearing from people who've seen it don't suggest that I'm right. That would be like the Wright brothers spending years trying to make a working aircraft and then changing their mind and trying to invent the pocket fisherman or something, a week before their successful flight.
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« #248 : 05-31-2008 18:49 »

It's not so much out-of-character, as it is perhaps more first and second season in-character. As I think someone said somewhere, it seems like they're taking a huge step away from Fry-and-Leela this time and going back more to when Fry did go out with other people. (And fish, and radiators).
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« #249 : 05-31-2008 18:52 »

I know but I mean out of his current state of character. Then again apparently continuity means NOTHING to these people anymore.
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« #250 : 05-31-2008 20:18 »

Although if you wanted to read more into it than is really there, you could say that he's trying to force himself to move on from a non-responsive Leela... or even on some subconscious level trying to make her jealous.
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« #251 : 05-31-2008 20:30 »

Or maybe Fry just needs to GET SOME occasionally.  ;)
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« #252 : 05-31-2008 22:32 »
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Earth weakling.

Anyway, the whole premise of this movie is parallel universes, right? How do we know that perhaps this movie, perhaps even every movie, doesn't involve a separate parallel universe, all of which will cumulatively collapse and bring all storylines together during the Wild Green Yonder?

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*Edits post*

*Gets some sleep*
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« #253 : 05-31-2008 23:35 »
« : 05-31-2008 23:35 »

This post was edited.
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« #254 : 06-01-2008 04:05 »

Dammit, they used time travel to steal my ideas again...
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« #255 : 06-01-2008 07:39 »

Nice avatar there buddy!
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« #256 : 06-01-2008 08:07 »

Ahh, excellent...
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« #257 : 06-01-2008 09:26 »

I can see it! Oh my goodness gracious, I can see it!
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« #258 : 06-01-2008 11:17 »

Yes, great avatar! Let's all give Archi a round of applause.
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« #259 : 06-02-2008 09:11 »

Yes, it's quite clearly Leela now. Wearing a red cabbage, apparently.
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« #260 : 06-02-2008 09:34 »

There are no fruit or vegetables of any kind present in my avatar, now kindly start talking about Leela and Amy. As friends.
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« #261 : 06-02-2008 09:55 »

You mean like Ruth and Naomi?

And Noemi said to her: Behold thy kinswoman is returned to her people, and to her gods, go thou with her. She answered: Be not against me, to desire that I should leave thee and depart: for whithersoever thou shalt go, I will go: and where thou shalt dwell, I also will dwell. Thy people shall be my people, and thy God my God. The land that shall receive thee dying, in the same will I die: and there will I be buried. The Lord do so and so to me, and add more also, if aught but death part me and thee.  ~ Ruth 1:15-17
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« #262 : 06-02-2008 10:08 »
« : 06-02-2008 10:08 »

 
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Originally posted by coldangel_1:
Although if you wanted to read more into it than is really there, you could say that he's trying to force himself to move on from a non-responsive Leela...


That fits my views.
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« #263 : 06-02-2008 17:30 »

Everybody out of the universe. Quick! Frisco has created art...sort of. I'm only posting this here because it's ship related. I'm sure you've all heard me say this at one point or another and I've just gotten tired of typing it. So here's my new sig so I don't ever have to type it again.
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« #264 : 06-03-2008 18:37 »

Um, Frisco, you misspelled "programmed" in your signature...
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« #265 : 06-03-2008 18:56 »

Hee chouses two spelll hou hie wus programed too spel!
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« #266 : 06-03-2008 19:29 »

Did I?  ;)
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« #267 : 06-03-2008 20:06 »

Did he?  :confused:
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« #268 : 06-03-2008 21:13 »

It looks good to me.  :)
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« #269 : 06-03-2008 21:18 »

 
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Um, Frisco, you misspelled "programmed" in your signature...
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Originally posted by Frisco17:
Did I?   ;)
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Originally posted by winna:
Did he?   :confused:
Nope.
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« #270 : 06-04-2008 12:31 »

No I really did screw it up. I went back and fixed the picture then edited my signature. Hence the winking smiley. Let's see I fooled...3 people. Well I've reached my sneaky bastard quota for today.
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« #271 : 06-04-2008 12:33 »

Right now I'm writing a scene between Yancy and Leela. Hypothetical: would it work?  ;)
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« #272 : 06-04-2008 12:43 »

 
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Originally posted by Archonix:

Right now I'm writing a scene between Yancy and Leela. Hypothetical: would it work?   ;)

Let's see - two miserable human beings who think that power and wealth are the things that bring happiness in life?

Hell yeah, plan the wedding.
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« #273 : 06-04-2008 13:44 »

 
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Originally posted by Frisco17:
No I really did screw it up. I went back and fixed the picture then edited my signature. Hence the winking smiley. Let's see I fooled...3 people. Well I've reached my sneaky bastard quota for today.

What's nice about the internet is that it becomes difficult to notice certain subtle nuances.  It's a neat trait to have.  :confused:
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« #274 : 06-04-2008 13:47 »

Yancy was miserable and longed for power & wealth?  Unless I'm horribly confused, I really don't recall that....  He did have a thing for needing to be better than his younger brother, but I'd attribute that to sibling rivalry (Why did BBS touch Luck of the Fryish????).  But as he's portrayed at the end of LotF, he seems like a humbled family man who cares about the important things in life.

I think Leela believing money and power are keys to happiness is a bit of a stretch too... but not quite as much so.
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« #275 : 06-04-2008 14:23 »

Read the story, Winna.  Yancy is pissed at Fry for "stealing" his life.  A life with a trophy bride, cornering the stock market and becoming the richest man in the world.

Sounds pretty materialistic to me.

As for Leela, from various episodes:

"I'm dating Chaz, he's a very important man."

"If you were my kids, you'd get quite the talking to from your father, the Senator."

"I want to date somebody who everybody else doesn't think is crummy.  I deserve that."

The Hero-worship she gave Zapp Brannigan before she realized he was a dumb, gross gorilla.

Sorry, Leela likes the idea of being attached to somebody wealthy and powerful.  She likes the idea of being wealthy and powerful herself.

I have to say that Arch's story so far is making Leela a not very likable or sympathtic person.  She's taken every cheap shot she can at Fry, dissing him about Evila, then never appologizing to him when Evila struck again.  She rides Fry's ass whether he deserves it or not and only sees the negative things about him.

Sounds just like a woman I almost married.

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« #276 : 06-04-2008 14:36 »

I believe it's winna that doesn't do fanfiction.  :)

Nothing is ever as it seems.
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« #277 : 06-04-2008 16:10 »
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I didn't realize we were talking about the story when talking about Yancy (accidentally typed fry for some reason)... from canon he seems less likely to be that type of person.

I said not quite as much so on Leela.  She's certainly got some negative attributes, but she's got other characteristics that seem to outweigh that.  She lives very modestly and is known to have good friendships with people who aren't rich & powerful.... her and zoidberg get along, right?  I think the negative things are stereotypical woman attributes... something from the Sex & the City or the Desperate Housewives.... Leela nags a lot too and is nosy.  But you made your point... there's definitely a side of her that feels entitled to things she doesn't necessarily deserve.
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« #278 : 06-04-2008 16:20 »

I like to think our opinions on these characters are rather more influenced by who we are than who they are. Most TV show characters are erchetypes - they have very few actual identifiable character traits, at least to start with. And often to end with. Most of what we see there is what we actually imbue in the character ourselves, filling in all the details around what's actually there with the baggage and prejudices of our own lives.  :)
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« #279 : 06-04-2008 17:37 »

You are most wise Archonix san.

I think he hit it on the head there.
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