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Teral
Helpy McHelphelp
DOOP Secretary
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Most likely that was Fry's wish, to be burried in space. And since the church had pre-installed machinery for such an occasion he's not the first one either.
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Zerstorer
Crustacean
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Originally posted by kiffan: The orbiting cemitary is only for the rich or famose. Because Fry is neather, he couldn't be buried there.
Well, Fry was most definitely famous at this point... he was extremely rich at one point, he is the namesake of the first Mars astronaut, he was emperor of planet, etc etc. I'd go with the Trekkie-style funeral, but we can't see those facilities at Orbiting Meadows in any previous episode. We'll chalk it up to a holdover from Church of Trek and Fry's wishes. Glad to see I'm not the only one who found that odd... (I found it rather funny)
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evan
Urban Legend
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Originally posted by Local Jerseyan: They sound like plausible reasons, but why Chester A. Arthur? Did the writers just want to drive us mad wondering why? Chester A. Arthur's head was involved when Fry tried to re-educate the world in "The Day the Earth Stood Stupid." Chester A. Arthur fall down... Originally posted by kiffan: The orbiting cemitary is only for the rich or famose. Because Fry is neather, he couldn't be buried there.
Fry is a world hero, lest we forget. He was responsible for saving the world twice, (A Big Piece of Garbage, Day the Earth Stood Stupid," ), not mention all the times he's been around people who influenced the world (Farnsworth, Leela, Dr. Zoidberg etc). I think Fry would be considered a world hero, and should be treated as such.
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Nerd-o-rama
Urban Legend
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Originally posted by evan I think Fry would be considered a world hero, and should be treated as such. Fry saved the world a few times...I can't think of all of them, but for your examples: In ABPOG, it is inferred (ridiculously) that the garbage ball would only smash NNY. Thus, only a local hero, and NNYers are ingrates anyway. In TDTESS, nobody remembers. That's part of the point. Remember though, Leela is dreaming the funeral. She probably just heard Fry mention that he wanted to be buried that way, in the same way Fry somehow knew Bender's favorite way to die. And I'm sure Fry wanted to be buried that way, Trekkie that he is.
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ooy
Professor
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answer: it was a dream.
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Zerstorer
Crustacean
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Originally posted by Nerd-o-rama: The special edition version!
Were the Nazis digitally replaced by Ewoks? I'd think more Borg and less Ewok,:P
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passerby
Crustacean
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Originally posted by Zerstorer: Does anyone else find it odd that the funeral is held at a cemetery, and instead of burying fry, they eject him into space? Shouldn't he have been buried by his nephew, Philip J. Fry, as the legendary namesake uncle? The whole funeral is symbolic on one level or another. They ejected him because Fry's lifelong dream was to reach space one day, so in death his friends consigned his body to travel through space forever. Also, this explains the other oddity of the Funeral; Fry gets 'buried' in his normal clothes, not a suit. That's because Leela (and the rest of them) want to remember him the way they knew him life. The coffin ejection reminds me of the Star Trek burials, lol. could it be a homage? Nahhh. of course, this is part of Leela's comatose dreams, but the scene was made to convince the viewer he was dead...) As i've said before, nobody who ever saw a TV show in their life got fooled into thinking Fry was really dead. "Major character seems to be dead, but ultimately turns up alive" is as much a TV cliche as "Major events all turn out to be a dream", after all. Star Trek itself did an episode based on this premise. In a minor note, Leela's later "is Fry alive in some other dimension or something?" is a reference to this Ep (where apparently dead Kirk really had been transported to another dimension). Plus, part of the dream thing is that the signs all is not what it seems keep getting more and more obvious and harder to ignore as the plot progresses - starting with plausible, but unusual, things like an out of the ordinary burial.
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Zoidberg227
Space Pope
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« Reply #20 on: 09-27-2004 21:13 »
« Last Edit on: 09-27-2004 21:13 »
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Originally posted by passerby: As i've said before, nobody who ever saw a TV show in their life got fooled into thinking Fry was really dead. "Major character seems to be dead, but ultimately turns up alive" is as much a TV cliche as "Major events all turn out to be a dream", after all. Star Trek itself did an episode based on this premise. Yeah, but don't tell me that you didn't smack that little voice in the back of your head, like Local Jerseyan did. That voice may be the nagging doubt, but you gotta wonder, is Fry really dead? My dad thought it was the last episode when he saw it. Unfortunately, it was spoiled for me, and I knew how it ended beforehand. I didn't find the manner of Fry's burial odd at all. For one, they wouldn't have been able to homage Star Trek and 2001: A Space Odessey. Besides, it's the manner in which Fry would want to be buried, as many of the others have stated. Edited, because one should always call others by their correct name (sorry, L. Jerseyan!)
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Nerd-o-rama
Urban Legend
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Originally posted by passerby As i've said before, nobody who ever saw a TV show in their life got fooled into thinking Fry was really dead. "Major character seems to be dead, but ultimately turns up alive" is as much a TV cliche as "Major events all turn out to be a dream", after all. Star Trek itself did an episode based on this premise. True. The writers, however, did not underestimate their viewers. In addition to making Fry apparently dead, they really muddied the waters on possible explanations, especially with the "Royal Jelly" red herring. Of course, it turns out the most common-sense (and hackneyed) explanation is the right one, but it did keep me guessing, even though I was positive he wasn't dead. Me, as the credits were going Oh yeah, poison goes through the tip of the stinger. Man, am I a dumbass.
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passerby
Crustacean
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Originally posted by Zoidberg227: Yeah, but don't tell me that you didn't smack that little voice in the back of your head, like Local Jerseyan did.
That voice may be the nagging doubt, but you gotta wonder, is Fry really dead? My dad thought it was the last episode when he saw it. Unfortunately, it was spoiled for me, and I knew how it ended beforehand. No need to. They played it so straight and so well it was like he really was dead, for seven minutes anyway. Disbelief has never been easier to suspend. In truth, I think that bit is even more important than most people think it is, because really it's a seven minute tribute to Fry, and it shows just how much he means to the people that know him, and even though they hit the reset button at the end, the revelations that happened change things permanently. My condolences about finding out the ending too soon. The internet aint always a gift. But Nerd-o-rama is right, too. They made accepting Fry as dead so plausible, you couldn't see what was coming, even when it was in front of your face. The Sting could so easily be made into a final episode. If nothing else it would have a sense of being final about it.
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Bender_is_cool
Crustacean
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Yeah.Why were'nt Lenord nemoy or the rest of the cast of star trek there?Did anyone notice them there in the background or something?
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JDB
Professor
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I read somewhere that someone said it was "Walking on Sunshine" but I'm not sure.
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Bender_is_cool
Crustacean
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Hey!As long as i'm drunk I can do anything too!
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b4e
Crustacean
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i think most if not all of Leela's dreams in this episode are influnced by fry constantly sitting next to her and trying to wake her up by talking to her. that's also why when she dreams she's dreaming (after eating the space bee's honey) he keeps saying : "I want you to wake up!".
so, probably also her dream of his funeral is somehow influenced by Fry's monologue, in other words representing rather Fry's personality than Leela's.
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Pataloca
Delivery Boy
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What confuses me is: The pastor said that he didn't know Philip but then as he's talking about the tremendous(sp?) amount of pain he went through, he calls him Fry. Wouldn't only those familiar with Fry (either by a one time meeting or other involvement) call him "Fry"? Or am I being crazy, paranoid and annoying? Or any combination of the three?
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