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Svip
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Hedoismbot is the greatest of all the robots. If he ends up battling Bender, I am voting for him. Fuck Bender.
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Inquisitor Hein
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Hedonismot, no doubt. But whom I REALLY would like to meet is the guy who COMISSIONED Hedonismbot. Having a robot built for you, who even does your job to be decadent...THAT'S style
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Gorky
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Hedonism Bot, though I don't really care for either choice. I still have a bad taste in my mouth from the Preacher Bot's, um, "hilariously satirical" appearance in "Proposition Infinity." Hedoismbot is the greatest of all the robots. If he ends up battling Bender, I am voting for him. Fuck Bender.
I'm fairly certain Herdonism Bot would agree to such an arrangement. Oh my, yes.
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Tachyon
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The closet robosexual tension portrayed by Lionel Preacherbot was played brilliantly.
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transgender nerd under canada
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The closet robosexual tension portrayed by Lionel Preacherbot was played brilliantly.
I'll contend forever and a day that it was portrayed as a trite and hackneyed cliche, that it was unneccessary, and that it didn't contribute to the overall humour or plotline of the episode. It was a misplaced jab at entirwely the wrong group of people for the episode to get away with its holier-than-thou overtones. Plus, science-fiction cartoons shouldn't be soapbox platforms in the first place. Leave the social commentary to things like South Park.
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Amen, tnuk. I agree with the message of "Proposition Infinity"--couples should be allowed to marry regardless of prudish and (oftentimes) religiously-motivated laws that say one type of union is inherently "healthier" or more natural than another--but in execution the whole episode comes off as mean-spirited and simplistic. Organized religion is by no means the only obstacle standing in the way of the legalization of gay marriage, and it's not as if every Church has a problem with homosexuality (or is run by homophobes who are trying to compensate for their own "deviant" tendencies).
The scene with Preacher Bot getting his jollies watching robots sex up some dolls is so cringe-worthy to me. And, like, you know you've failed at satire when you manage to turn off people who actually agree with the ideology you're attempting to promote.
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« Reply #16 on: 10-22-2011 21:26 »
« Last Edit on: 10-22-2011 23:42 by totalnerduk »
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Science fiction media always has acted as a platform for social commentary. Star Trek is famous for its various social critiques, and many books and films like Do Robots.../Blade Runner and Jurassic Park criticize various aspects of society and morality.
You're comparing turds to diamonds there. Everything you mention has a much more subtle social commnetary than the Futurama episode we're talking about. In fact, it's possible to enjoy them for their own sake, rather than looking at the social commentary at all. It's background, rather than the social commentary itself driving forwards the episode, it's merely there as something that can be applied to the events of the film/episode to derive a lesson. Something so heavy-handed has no place in a medium that's famed for sublety and layers. You guys are insane in the mainframe, the "that's REEEAL good" scene from Prop Infinite is hilarious, and amazingly-well acted by Phil.
First of all, you mis-spelled "inifinity", and second of all, you're about as wrong as it's possible to get. See above. The Beast with a Billion Backs took its stabs at organized religion
A couple of jabs, as opposed to twenty solid minutes of solid bashing with a stone pickaxe. I repeat, that science-fiction is supposed to be about layered subtlety when it comes to social commentary, and the over-the-top exaggeration is supposed to be reserved for spaceship battles and suggestive costumes.
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A couple of jabs of brief subtlety, such as A Clockwork Origin, Crimes of the Hot, or A Big Piece of Garbage? I'm just pointing out other Futurama eps that are fairly heavy handed about contentious social issues and are still funny; I'm not trying to bait you. If Prop ∞ seems crudely blunt and unfunny to some people, well, that's fine. Different people have different filters and perceptions. Hedonism bot is droll and very funny, even if somewhat predictably so. I like both characters and I think the Preacherbot character has a little more breadth and is a bit better acted -- and that's who I voted for.
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A couple of jabs of brief subtlety, such as A Clockwork Origin, Crimes of the Hot, or A Big Piece of Garbage?
You'll note I'm not defending those episodes here either. I dislike preachiness in cartoons overall. ABPoG gets a pass because it's more funny than it is preachy (Futurama never used to take itself too seriously) and contains the documentary-porno. The other two episodes you mention, I consider to be overly preachy or contentious with little to no justification as well. I rate them higher than PI though, because of your second point: they're still funny. Plus, I sorta agree with you. If not for PI, I'd probably have voted for the Preacherbot.
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Thank you Mr. Tnuk. I read your spiel and I just don't agree. But I mistyped a word so what do I know?
Nothing!
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Inquisitor Hein
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I'd love to have seen Hedonismot as part of the "Robosexuals Anonymous" group under Preacherbot... (Okay...Heramphrobot was okay, but Preacherbot vs Hedonismbot...that would have been just too great )
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Svip
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But Hedonismbot is not anonymous!
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