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PEE Poll: Which Do you think?
They is ONLY Alien langauges.
The new language that has introduced is MUTAN
They are going to be  a alien and mutan language

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« on: 07-29-2009 13:13 »
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Is the incription on leela's braclet the same language as the sign in the palace in my three suns. If they are the same language why would a Mutan leave only one clue for leela in a different language. Also the letter on leela when she gets dropped off at the orphanige that must be in AL3 otherwise they would have no problem to find out what it says because they use it on signs. so it would have to be slightly different even if it dosent look like it so that could be a big clue in to the Alien Language.

Any ideas?
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« Reply #1 on: 07-29-2009 13:42 »

There's a THIRD alien language?  I thought there had only been two...
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« Reply #2 on: 07-29-2009 15:00 »

There's a THIRD alien language?  I thought there had only been two...

Only two confirmed alien languages.

There had long been speculation of a third alien language.  Fans have attributed this to the fact that both languages were quickly decoded, and the show runners (especially DXC) wanted to provide a third language for the fans to decode.  However, since the show ended with "The Devil's Hands Are Idle Playthings", they never got that far, and some suggest that they apparently had other things to consider when they made the films rather than new languages.

The inscription on Leela's bracelet is perhaps the most popular theory of a third alien language of them all.  However, too many symbols are missing for it to even have a meaningful translation.  It is even hard to suggest what the inscription on her bracelet might even mean.

It is also possible that the third alien language will be far more complicated than the second.  As such, it would seem an obvious choice to pick an artificial/constructed language to fit the purpose rather than an "encryption" for Latin characters.

To the topic at hand; it does not make sense for most of the languages seen in "My Three Suns" to be the third alien language, some of them were just gibberish and others were already known established forms of writing.  In addition, this is a season 1 episode, probably produced and made before they even knew that the first alien language would be broken so quickly.

It is thus very unlikely for this to be a third alien language, this early in production.  Their similarities may just be coincidental.

As for the note Leela's parents leave her with:  That is in alien language 1.  We know that, because it has the exact same symbols, and the translation that her parents provide ("your parents love you very much") matches the note exactly in this language.  Your argument that they use it on signs is a moot one, as the background jokes are simply that:  background jokes.  They are hardly canon or should be taken that seriously.

The note is not a clue to a third alien language.
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« Reply #3 on: 07-29-2009 16:15 »

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There's a THIRD alien language?  I thought there had only been two...

Only two confirmed alien languages.

There had long been speculation of a third alien language.  Fans have attributed this to the fact that both languages were quickly decoded, and the show runners (especially DXC) wanted to provide a third language for the fans to decode.  However, since the show ended with "The Devil's Hands Are Idle Playthings", they never got that far, and some suggest that they apparently had other things to consider when they made the films rather than new languages.

The inscription on Leela's bracelet is perhaps the most popular theory of a third alien language of them all.  However, too many symbols are missing for it to even have a meaningful translation.  It is even hard to suggest what the inscription on her bracelet might even mean.

It is also possible that the third alien language will be far more complicated than the second.  As such, it would seem an obvious choice to pick an artificial/constructed language to fit the purpose rather than an "encryption" for Latin characters.

To the topic at hand; it does not make sense for most of the languages seen in "My Three Suns" to be the third alien language, some of them were just gibberish and others were already known established forms of writing.  In addition, this is a season 1 episode, probably produced and made before they even knew that the first alien language would be broken so quickly.

It is thus very unlikely for this to be a third alien language, this early in production.  Their similarities may just be coincidental.

As for the note Leela's parents leave her with:  That is in alien language 1.  We know that, because it has the exact same symbols, and the translation that her parents provide ("your parents love you very much") matches the note exactly in this language.  Your argument that they use it on signs is a moot one, as the background jokes are simply that:  background jokes.  They are hardly canon or should be taken that seriously.

The note is not a clue to a third alien language.

How do we know if they wernt planing there to be three different languages because they is what is on her braclet. it could be something to with the third suposed al. but if in the year 3000 they have two alien languages that they use on signs for advertisment then why would be so hard to decript even specialist cant find out what it means when they use that language so often?
prehaps the third al is al 1 but altered so it is hard to crack that when ever we see it we think that it is al1 and not al3 and why did mutans use and al. i think that they is an al3 and they is ml1 (Mutan Language) but never tuck off so they scrapped the idea in latter episodes. that would explain why they isnt many letters because they didnt use it in latter episodes. it is quite possible that they knew they  wanted three different al and a ml so they built it in. it is also posible they did not intend for people to crack the al and ml, but when they found out that people wanted to crack the codes then they set more clues to help with the al's but non for the ml.
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« Reply #4 on: 07-29-2009 16:21 »

I finally got that "mutan" means "mutant".  Sorry about that.

Anyway, what you are saying is contradicting well established evidence.

Farnsworth's and Warden Vogel's comments on alien language 1 ("Alienese") being "impossible to translate" is what in the biz is known as a "joke", regardless of continuity.

In fact, "Leela's Homeworld" is the first episode where characters actually engaged with the alien language.

In addition to that, you seem to refer to the language as the "mutant language", which also seems to disregard what Leela's mother, Munda, says, and I quote.

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You won't pass for human, cutie. But if my PhD in exo-linguistics is worth diddly-poop, this note should convince them you're an alien.

In other words, that language was never used by mutants, Turanga Munda had apparently studied exo-linguistics (a pun on exoplanet, I guess), where she learnt how to write this alien language.  In other words, it is actually a known language, but it is used so seldom, that most people simply cannot be bothered to know how to translate it.

If this language is really supposed to be an alien language 3, it is a very very terrible attempt at an additional language, as it is basically AL1 over again.
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« Reply #5 on: 07-29-2009 16:45 »

I know get you no one can be bothered to translated not they cant translat it.
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« Reply #6 on: 07-29-2009 17:05 »

http://www.peelified.com/Futurama-Forum-3/Topic-1597-0-Alien_Language.html
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