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Slurm Guy

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« Reply #80 on: 12-16-2003 06:37 »

I was just thinking about something. People don't like the sequels because the action scenes were too drawn out. Let's say the Matrix didn't originate as a movie. What if the Matrix trilogy was a series of books like LOTR. Which one of the books would be the most interesting to read? To me, it would be the second one. When you take away the groundbreaking special effects of the first movie, it's not all that great. So in my own dumbass opinion, the second one kicked ass!
mazaite

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« Reply #81 on: 12-16-2003 18:28 »

Yea and it also woud have required better content and prose if they were books. Meaning the movies would have been better, but the Wachoskis can't write well enough to publish a trillogy of books they're just Hollywood hack artists. Face it Slurm Guy, it's mindless action wrapped in highschool psudo-philosophy. It's a popcorn movie that makes you feel like it made you think when really it didn't. It's not a bad thing. But it's not the thinking movie of the new genneration either. It's Pap. Enjoyable, simple, glitzy pap.
TheLastGreatDon

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« Reply #82 on: 12-16-2003 22:00 »

Ouch... and I thought I was harsh....
spacepilot3000

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« Reply #83 on: 12-16-2003 23:03 »

When I hear Matrix bashing, I hear "Blah, Blah, Blah".
David A

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« Reply #84 on: 12-16-2003 23:17 »

 
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Originally posted by spacepilot3000:
When I hear Matrix bashing, I hear "Blah, Blah, Blah".

Funny, when I watched The Matrix, that was what the dialogue sounded like.   tongue
spacepilot3000

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« Reply #85 on: 12-16-2003 23:22 »

BLAH,BLAH,BALH,BLAH,BLAH,BLAH,BLAH!!!!!
David A

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« Reply #86 on: 12-16-2003 23:43 »

 
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Originally posted by spacepilot3000:
BLAH,BLAH,BALH,BLAH,BLAH,BLAH,BLAH!!!!!

Yeah, that was what it sounded like.

The Martrix had some great special effects, but you know what would have been even better than special effects?  A plot that wasn't just a rehash of every other cheesy sci-fi story that came before it.

And it did not need a sequel.

Speak softly. Drive a Sherman tank.
spacepilot3000

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« Reply #87 on: 12-16-2003 23:54 »

 
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Originally posted by David A:
 Yeah, that was what it sounded like.

The Martrix had some great special effects, but you know what would have been even better than special effects?  A plot that wasn't just a rehash of every other cheesy sci-fi story that came before it.

And it did not need a sequel.


The Martrix That's funny.

I respect your opinion. I just feel another could be made. Mabye they will wrap it up with that Matrix online game.
David A

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« Reply #88 on: 12-17-2003 00:07 »

 
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Originally posted by spacepilot3000:
The Martrix That's funny.

Whoops.  Lousy typos.

 
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Mabye

And they're contagious.
Slurm Guy

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« Reply #89 on: 12-17-2003 12:52 »

 
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Originally posted by mazaite:
Face it Slurm Guy, it's mindless action wrapped in highschool psudo-philosophy.

Hey! It's a matter of opinion, not a matter of you hating my ideas or wanting to prove that you're better than me somehow.
mazaite

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« Reply #90 on: 12-18-2003 03:22 »

No it's pretty much universally accepted by most of the entertainment industry to be fact not opinion.
Slurm Guy

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« Reply #91 on: 12-18-2003 07:00 »

 
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Originally posted by mazaite:
No it's pretty much universally accepted by most of the entertainment industry to be fact not opinion.

"Most", the key word there is "most". If 100% said so, then it would be a fact. But since only "most" believe so, then it's still an opinion. Like it or not, not everyone agrees with what you say.
mazaite

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« Reply #92 on: 12-18-2003 17:00 »

You don't need 100% approval for a consensus.
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #93 on: 12-18-2003 17:05 »

*Suddenly out of nowhere, 2 Agent Smiths appear, each putting their hand into mazaite*

mazaite replies: "Me three"...
mazaite

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« Reply #94 on: 12-19-2003 01:14 »

derivative. good. Fitting for a sequel thread.
TheLastGreatDon

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« Reply #95 on: 12-21-2003 16:02 »

Yeah that whole deal bugged me out about the whole matrix universe... I mean.. did he really reproduce to just destroy Ted\Neo even though he had absolutley no hope of killing him... and when Neo\Ted was outta the wire... why the hell didn't the clones go on an extreme godzilla trip killing spree.... I mean.. did they just sit there with thier thumbs up thier ass or did they try to attack the core machine from inside the matrix.....
Slurm Guy

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« Reply #96 on: 12-21-2003 20:58 »

Don, could you please stop it with the "..."s. Somebody has already said this, and I agree with them. It's completely unnecessary, plus it's annoying.
TheLastGreatDon

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« Reply #97 on: 12-21-2003 22:52 »

Deal.   <----- THERE! I only used one period, are you fucking happy now-the periods help me space out my thoughts and keep track of what I'm focusing on, goddamn it. <---another at the end of this sentence.>

But I can understand your objection to it so I'll try to cut back. <----Last one this post>
mazaite

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« Reply #98 on: 12-22-2003 01:50 »

The Wachowskis just didn't think Re: Smith clones. They just thought it was cool.

And as for the ... I don't know. It doesn't bother me. But I tipicaly start a new line to break time structure.
Spaz_man

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« Reply #99 on: 12-22-2003 08:56 »
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yea so did i. the clones made for one kick ass fight scene. although sometimes u could tell when it was computer animated.
mazaite

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« Reply #100 on: 12-22-2003 14:50 »

yea like always. Shitty shitty fight scenes. And that was from sequels of a movie with some of the greatest looking fight scenes ever.
Slurm Guy

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« Reply #101 on: 12-22-2003 14:54 »

They were not shitty fight scenes. They were just a little drawn out.
mazaite

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« Reply #102 on: 12-23-2003 02:02 »

And over cut so a sight line was never established for more then a second. Were done almost entirely with poorly light matched, flat, stunt CGI instead of practical effects. And when they did use wire work it was the bouncy "Crouching Tiger" style instead of the sharp snappy style of the original.

And because of that, it coudn't hold a candle to the original Matrix.
TheLastGreatDon

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« Reply #103 on: 12-23-2003 10:31 »

Amen. I'm sorry to say it Slurm but well... (I never thought I'd say this but...) Mazaite is right. (God forgive me) the CGI was pathetic to what even the original had. I mean, the production was rushed and the art was punished at it was turned into another crappy action movie sequel. Just like (Insert 1000 bad action movie sequels here) SPEED 2.
Slurm Guy

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« Reply #104 on: 12-23-2003 13:07 »

I'm sorry, but I don't give a fuck what you think. I loved Reloaded for some strange reason. It must just be that I love the second part of a trilogy the best usually. It's a matter of opinion. My opinion is it kicked ass and I would like to see either of you two make a better movie.
sheep555

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« Reply #105 on: 12-23-2003 13:20 »

Scooby-Doo 2? WTF? When did some moron decide it would be profitable to produce another load of crap?
TheLastGreatDon

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« Reply #106 on: 12-23-2003 19:39 »

 
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Originally posted by Slurm Guy:
I'm sorry, but I don't give a fuck what you think. I loved Reloaded for some strange reason. It must just be that I love the second part of a trilogy the best usually. It's a matter of opinion. My opinion is it kicked ass and I would like to see either of you two make a better movie.


Hey I liked Reloaded; It wasn't half bad. I gave it a B+, but really I thought that Revolutions blew some major catastrophic ass. Really I thought the original rocked fully to the inth degree but really I don't think it lived up to A)The Hype, B)The Acting, C)The Action Sequences Were OVERDONE, & finnaly D)The Mythology coulda been better incorperated so that people who didn't watch "The Animatrix & Play Enter The Matrix" [<(Which I did)>]. Overall you have the incredible recipe for a little-above par sequel that coulda been great if it was not so horribly spread out across so many different mediums and blew outta proportion by the media hype.

mazaite

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« Reply #107 on: 12-24-2003 02:25 »
« Last Edit on: 12-24-2003 02:25 »

 
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Originally posted by Slurm Guy:
I'm sorry, but I don't give a fuck what you think.....

This is the internet man, Nobody gives a f*&% about what anyone thinks here.

It's zen.

Michael Zaite
Slurm Guy

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« Reply #108 on: 12-24-2003 09:40 »

Isn't that the beauty of it?
boingo2000

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« Reply #109 on: 12-24-2003 11:23 »

 
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Originally posted by sheep555:
Scooby-Doo 2? WTF? When did some moron decide it would be profitable to produce another load of crap?

Right around the time Smokey & the Bandit 2 came out.

TheLastGreatDon

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« Reply #110 on: 12-24-2003 17:41 »

 
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Originally posted by Slurm Guy:
Isn't that the beauty of it?

Sure is.

Rocketboy

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« Reply #111 on: 12-27-2003 00:08 »

 
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Originally posted by sheep555:
Scooby-Doo 2? WTF? When did some moron decide it would be profitable to produce another load of crap?

They described 1 as "A hit movie"

  laff   laff   laff   laff   laff   laff   laff 
TheLastGreatDon

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« Reply #112 on: 12-28-2003 17:03 »

Who described it? I will personally send my army of dust bunnies to attack that sorry excuse for a human being.
Slurm Guy

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« Reply #113 on: 12-28-2003 20:32 »

Ummm, I believe that Warner Brothers would describe it as a hit movie, since they were the ones who green lighted the sequel.
TheLastGreatDon

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« Reply #114 on: 12-28-2003 21:56 »

Well after they ruined what could'a been of the Matrix franchise I thought they couldn't do any worse. Then this happened.
starone

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« Reply #115 on: 12-29-2003 00:03 »

Well I think we could have done without Batman And Robin. Tim Burton should have stayed as the director and mabey Batman Forever would have been better and Batman and Robin wouldn't have stank so badly. The first two movies are the best.

I also think we could have done without those "The Adventures of Young Indiana Jones" movies. I saw one and it stank.
spacepilot3000

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« Reply #116 on: 12-29-2003 00:45 »
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Originally posted by TheLastGreatDon:
Well after they ruined what could'a been of the Matrix franchise I thought they couldn't do any worse. Then this happened.


Ok, enough with the matrix bashing. Drop the subject, don't respond with a cunning remark, just drop it.

P.S:

Scooby Doo wasn't that bad, although it was in dire need of a good script and the erasing of Freddie Prinze J.R, it was at least decent. Hopfully, the sequel is better.
starone

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« Reply #117 on: 12-29-2003 01:02 »

I haven't seen the movie and I know it's bad, so the sequel wil probably be worse.
Rocketboy

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« Reply #118 on: 12-29-2003 13:22 »

Video ETA described it. But they must've gotten it from somewhere!
Slurm Guy

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« Reply #119 on: 12-29-2003 20:19 »
« Last Edit on: 12-29-2003 20:19 »

 
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Originally posted by spacepilot3000:
 
Ok, enough with the matrix bashing. Drop the subject, don't respond with a cunning remark, just drop it.

 That's what I'm talking about. The Matrix franchise was awsome. I hate it when people bitch about it being so disappointing.

 "WAHHH!!! It was so stupid! The effects weren't as good as the first one. The third one was a waste of time! It didn't make any sense! My pants are wet!"

 AHH! Go to your room and shut up or I'll shit in you cereal!!!
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