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« Reply #160 on: 09-14-2004 16:45 »
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In any case, I hope the repeats of season 2-12 (ish) are repeated on TV, cos they kick ass.

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« Reply #161 on: 09-14-2004 17:03 »

Seasons 2-12 (ish)? That includes the horrible Season 11, yet misses Season 1, which is much worse... not... It's much better...

Ok, you said "ish", but there's deliberate avoidance of Season 1 there... Ok, so maybe it's slower, and the animation is cruder, but you'd rather watch Season 11 (ish) episodes?...
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« Reply #162 on: 09-14-2004 17:37 »

Ok, ok, include Season 1 just for old time's sake, I just prefer post S1 animation, thats all.  tongue
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« Reply #163 on: 09-14-2004 18:45 »

I like the season 1 animation. It reminds me of Rocky and Bullwinkle.
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« Reply #164 on: 09-14-2004 19:45 »

Yeah. I like season one, too.

I agree with Faze that seasons 2-8 (and, to a lesser extent, 9) are awesome, but I don't think that 10-12 kick ass, although they did have some good ones ("Hungry Hungry Homer", "Trilogy of Error", "Brother's Little Helper", etc.).

Overall, I'd rank the seasons as...
Seasons 2-8: Awesome
Seasons 13-15: Very Good
Seasons 1 & 9: Good
Season 10: Not Good
Seasons 11 & 12: Bad*

*Keep in mind, a "Bad" Simpsons episode is still better than most TV
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« Reply #165 on: 09-14-2004 21:50 »

Bad Simpsons is better then most TV? Oh, how I wish I could agree with that... but I've had my rant.
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« Reply #166 on: 09-14-2004 22:01 »

Well, maybe not most TV, but at least most of the crap that seems to be on at the moment. I'd take "Simpson Safari" over "Octuplets" any day...
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« Reply #167 on: 09-14-2004 22:10 »

Well, I can't say I know what 'Octuplets' is, but I have my weird standards. I wouldn't watch either. It's not a case of 'It's not as good, but it's still better than *whatever*, with me, it's 'fallen below the standard where I would actually find it acceptable', and there fore, lumped with the majority of programs. I don't really have a scale of 'bad - very bad - stomach explodingly bad' (though I do have 'so bad it's awesome'), I have a sliding scale of acceptability, and then... the shows that aren't. The Simpsons, for me, may not be the worse show in the existence of everything, but if they don't meet my standards, then they aren't getting any kind consideration from me.
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« Reply #168 on: 09-14-2004 22:13 »

Good point, but I just meant that bad Simpsons is better than other bad television (which seems to be the majority of new shows nowadays). I didn't mean that it was good, I meant that it's not rock bottom.

Other than that, I agree with you.
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« Reply #169 on: 09-15-2004 02:11 »

 
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Originally posted by leelaholic:
Seasons 13-15: Very Good
Are you including Season 14 in that? Season 14 is the worst season of them all, IMHO. My personal worst five episodes are all in it.
'Octuplets' was the one where Apu had his eight children, right? What exactly was wrong with it? I haven't seen it for about two years, but from memory I thought it was pretty funny.
"Whatever. Just give me some ice cream. (Apu pulls ice cream up) Um...how about one that's not touching your ass?"
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« Reply #170 on: 09-15-2004 10:26 »

Understandable mistake.  "Octoplets" is actually a lousy (well, I'd assume its lousy) Fox sitcom that premiered over the summer and is probably already cancelled. 

"Eight Misbehavin'" is the title of the Simpsons episode.  Personally though I think the episode itself is somewhat lousy.  Had its moments (mainly "Octopia" ), but its ultimately just another wacky Homer adventure where he helps out a side-character for some reason, and the story just isn't interesting or consistantly funny enough.
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« Reply #171 on: 09-15-2004 13:10 »

Season 14 was the most uneven season ever but certainetley better than s11.
although Pray anything and helter shelter are possibly the worst 2 episodes ever.
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« Reply #172 on: 09-15-2004 13:30 »

 
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Originally posted by DotheBartman:
 "Eight Misbehavin'" is the title of the Simpsons episode.  Personally though I think the episode itself is somewhat lousy.  Had its moments (mainly "Octopia" ), but its ultimately just another wacky Homer adventure where he helps out a side-character for some reason, and the story just isn't interesting or consistantly funny enough.

You described that episode almost exactly how I felt about it. Although I felt that way about the majority of Season 11, with very few acceptations here and there.

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« Reply #173 on: 09-15-2004 14:28 »

Yeah, same here.  What's pathetic is that "Behind the Laughter" is probably the best S11 episode, and it still isn't really a classic.

Truthfully, of all the Apu episodes made I think "Much Apu About Nothing" is the only really great one.  The others range from good to bad, but "Nothing" is the only one that's really notable.

In regards to season 14, I also think that its very uneven, but I wouldn't say its bad (or good), just very very uneven.  It started off pretty badly (concluding its run of terror with possibly the worst episode ever, "Pray Anything" ) and then suddenly got good towards the end, even producing a true top 50 classic, "Moe Baby Blues".  Its not a good or bad season to me, just mediocre and kind of a "transition" into season 15 (season 13 is better, but it made few attempts at truly restoring emotion or deeper satire into the show.  14 seemed like they were trying to make the next step, but weren't succeeding much at first).
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« Reply #174 on: 09-15-2004 15:20 »

Yep my sentiments exactly DTB. and Otis as well.

and not only is BTL the best episode of season 11, TOE is the best episode of season 12.

Although for me the jury is still out on season 15, I've still 10 episodes to see, and my thoughts on some episodes seem to be going up and down.
Diatribe of a mad housewifes' main plot wasn't quite what I rememberd it to be, and Homer's sub plot was a lot more irritating this time. My rankings gone down half a grade to a 3/5.

So even after season 15 I still don't think the show will surpass season 9 or 1 quality judging from what I've heard of the rest of the episodes in the season.
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« Reply #175 on: 09-15-2004 17:49 »

Yeah, the only episodes from above season 8 that rank among my favorites are "The City of New York Vs. Homer Simpson", "My Mother the Carjacker", "Moe Baby Blues", "Trilogy of Error" and "Pappa's Got a Brand New Badge".

Am I the only one who thinks "Behind the Laughter" is overrated? I think season 11 is the worst because most of the episodes ranked from mediocre to horrible. There are some decent ones, but IMO "Brother's Little Helper" (with a rank of A-) was the only really great one.
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« Reply #176 on: 09-17-2004 10:55 »

Hi, everyone!  I'm writing from my Laptop from Nashville!  I couldn't help but see yet another Simpsons thread.  I must admit I'm getting sick of these Simpsons threads myself.  I said before that I am sick to death of The Simpsons.  I wouldn't be surprised if there was a season 20!  I could just see it now:

*Homer becomes gay!*
*Lisa develops behavioral problems, that cause her not to study and play vengeful pranks on her cruel classmates!*
*Bart becomes dictator of Springfield!*
*Milhouse goes on chemo!*
*Marge goes into credit card debt, and has to work as a waitress in a tacky diner to get out of it!*
*Barney goes to Iraq!*
*Mr. Burns marries Mrs. Krabbappel!*
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« Reply #177 on: 09-17-2004 13:28 »

 
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Originally posted by KurtPikachu2001:

*Lisa develops behavioral problems, that cause her not to study and play vengeful pranks on her cruel classmates!*

That's basically "Seperate Vocations".  Ya know, from the beloved third season.  And most of those other ideas would have been silly even for Mike Scully, so I don't think you're being fair.

And this is actually just an older thread that's been bumped up/continued a lot.

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« Reply #178 on: 09-17-2004 19:37 »

I haven't been watching much at all lately (whoo! Check out my attention span!), but what I was watching of the new stuff some... something years ago, I must agree there's far too much Homer. Kinda wore out his character if you ask me.

Now I miss even the reruns most every day because of work.

Oh well.
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« Reply #179 on: 09-17-2004 20:59 »

 
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Originally posted by KurtPikachu2001:

*Milhouse goes on chemo!*

Somehow, thinking about Milhouse having cancer should't make me laugh uncontrollably.  I guess I'm just a horrible person.

Bender: "Try this, kids at home!
Warning: do not try this at home
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« Reply #180 on: 09-18-2004 01:24 »

Heh...yeah, come to think of it, it could work great as a cutaway joke(as long as we later found out that he survived or whatever).
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« Reply #181 on: 09-18-2004 04:49 »

The only thing the new simpsons episodes have to offer are star guests.

That's so poor if you know how it used to be. Yesterday I saw the episode with Tony Hawk and Blink 182 in it. That was more than I could take ...
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« Reply #182 on: 09-18-2004 13:32 »

They are pbibly going to run out of idas at season 200
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« Reply #183 on: 09-18-2004 13:37 »

He's said what everyone has already thought.

Who is left then? The Pope?
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« Reply #184 on: 09-18-2004 19:02 »
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Originally posted by evan:
 Somehow, thinking about Milhouse having cancer should't make me laugh uncontrollably.  I guess I'm just a horrible person.


Issue 83:



Don't worry, they made a full recovery.   tongue
I laughed when I saw it for the first time.
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« Reply #185 on: 09-18-2004 19:17 »

Woah, that is funny but I feel guilty at the same time.
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« Reply #186 on: 09-18-2004 20:13 »
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But it wasn't cancer, it was radiation poisoning from the nuclear plant.

But yes, that was funny in an evil way.   evil laugh
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« Reply #187 on: 09-18-2004 20:38 »

That image is sorta funny, which is a rarity for Simpsons Comics.
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« Reply #188 on: 09-18-2004 21:03 »

Oh my god, we are all such horrible people.  Laughing at two 10 year olds with radiation posioning.  laff

newhook, what was the plot of that issue?  I doubt "Bart and Milhouse have cancer" leads to a lot of yuks.
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« Reply #189 on: 09-18-2004 21:46 »
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Bart and Milhouse snuck into the power plant with some ants in a jar, and tried to get superpowers by mutating the ants and getting bitten by them. All but one of the ants died, and Bart and Milhouse got radiation posioning. Of course the one ant that survived bit Homer and gave him superpowers (which has happened like 40 times in the comics so far   tongue).   
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« Reply #190 on: 09-18-2004 22:20 »

Lolz0rz...

And all those episode ideas were great... except I think Barney goes to Afghanistan, season 16: COMING SOON!
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« Reply #191 on: 09-19-2004 02:42 »

We've abandoned Afghanistan anyways.  Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, or France would probably be more likely, pending on the election results.
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« Reply #192 on: 09-21-2004 18:34 »

 
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Itchy and Scratchy are the highlight of the show   tongue

I agree. Too bad they were only in 2 freaking episodes in the last freaking season.

Anyway, I think the Simpsons is getting bad beacause:

1)It's so surreal it's unbelievable in a bad way.

2) So little continuity that the show becomes boring and ruins good previous episodes.

3) Where's the love between the family? Why don't Bart and Lisa ever show they love each other like the good old days?

But the show hasn't jumped yet because there are still good eps like "Diabitre of a mad housewife" and "The Way we weren't".
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« Reply #193 on: 09-24-2004 13:51 »
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3) Where's the love between the family? Why don't Bart and Lisa ever show they love each other like the good old days?

Yes, where is the love?... I think it's time The Black Eyes Peas came on as guest stars, and sung their "Where is the Love" song. They could make a whole ep out of it! and the Simpsons family could join them, and go on tour with them spreading love throughout the nation! And The Simpsons could all love each other again, and be a happy family, wouldn't that be so nice?...


   puke
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« Reply #194 on: 09-24-2004 14:09 »

 
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1)It's so surreal it's unbelievable in a bad way.

I think its already been established that the surreality has been going steadily down, and isn't really much different from oh, say, season six right now.

 
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2) So little continuity that the show becomes boring and ruins good previous episodes.

If continuity is that important to you, you shouldn't be watching The Simpsons.  Its just never been a continuity heavy show.  Its not serialized in any way.  Either you like it that way or you don't, but its hardly an example of it "getting bad" since it hasn't changed to begin with.

 
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3) Where's the love between the family? Why don't Bart and Lisa ever show they love each other like the good old days?
"Milhouse Doesn't Live Here Anymore" (Bart and Lisa example)
"My Mother the Carjacker"
"The Way We Weren't"
"I, D'ohBot"
"Diatribe of a Madhousewife"
All clear examples, and there's lots of other smaller ones like "Fraudcast News" (Homer helping out Lisa)

Its not like season two anymore, but its not much different then....let's say season six again.

Also as a smaller bit of news the Jean/Shearer dispute has apparently been patched up (as confirmed by Roger Myers III at NHC).  As suspected, misquoted interviews played a part in the confusion.

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« Reply #195 on: 09-24-2004 17:56 »

Yeah people's criticism's are getting fucking tiresome, will everyone please stop regurgataing these outdated arguments that don't hold water anymore. What's next is someone going to start a thread saying "has anyone noticed Homer's become too much off a jerk in the last couple of years."
What's more pathetic is the people that spout these arguments will often say.
"Oh well I kind off stopped watching 3 years ago"
either that or don't seem to understand the show any, completley forgetting the show never had that much continuity, and that ridculously surreal moments have been happening for a while.
If you wan't to criticise the show look at indvidual episodes and give a fair evalution to that episode, otherwise please just Fuck off.
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« Reply #196 on: 09-24-2004 18:05 »
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The series has been surreal since day one. I mean really, a man and his son getting lost in the woods for days, getting covered in mud, and mistaken for big foot is pretty surreal, John. The Simpsons is supposed to be a surreal exageration of an American family, just look at the old Shorts, they're more surreal than most of the Scully era and Jean era, and the shorts were Matt's original vision. Anyone who thinks that the Simpsons wasn't surreal before Scully came along is a dumbass, I'm sorry John, but there's no way around it.

And before someone rags on me, my arguments against the show were never about the show actually being bad in the Jean era, just about it getting stale. I had nothing but praise for Simple Simpson (Well, with the exception of the weird flying Monk thing), and I said they should go in more original directions like they did in that episode more often. Seems most people who reviewed it recently in the Simpson's review thread agreed.
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« Reply #197 on: 09-25-2004 08:20 »
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i agree with mjc for to long have the simpsons dominated the tv. shows like futurama should have more than just 5 seasons
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« Reply #198 on: 09-25-2004 10:34 »

I have to say that I actually like the offside surreal bits a lot..  Normally they're funny in that retarded stupid way that lets the giggles escape.  I still watch the Simpsons when it comes on, but it has become increasingly difficult for me to turn on the tv especially on a sunday night.  Maybe one day I'll get all the DVD sets, I have like 1 & 2 at my dad's house, but not readily available :\
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« Reply #199 on: 09-25-2004 13:53 »

 
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Anyone who thinks that the Simpsons wasn't surreal before Scully came along is a dumbass

True, it got surreal when Conan O'Brian "broke" the show (see commentaries for "Marge vs. the Monorail" )
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