The Indiana Jones Thread

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Dun-dundun-duuuuun dun-dun-dunnnnnnn, dun-dun-dunnnn-dunnnnn, dundundun-dun-dunnnnnn!

I know we aren't supposed to open a new thread for every single movie, but I think Indiana Jones deserves his own thread.

Let's see...multiple movies? Check. Nerd appeal? Check. Videogames based on it? Check. New entry coming up? Check.

We'll start with a quick ranking of films, followed by people agreeing and disagreeing.

Last Crusade
Raiders Of The Lost Ark
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Temple of Doom

I'm extremely pumped up about the fourth one. For the past five years, I've just thought "oh please, don't make this". Then I heard they were finally making it, and I thought "crap. why are they doing this?". But now I'm looking at www.indianajones.com  and OH HOLY CRAP THIS IS EXCITING! That theme music brings back such memories! And Harrison Ford doesn't look TOO terribly old, so far.

This movie is going to be great. Or at least, it better be. Come on, Spielberg, don't break my heart!

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I don't think you'll have to worry about Spielberg breaking your heart.  One thing about him, he KNOWS how to make a great, populist film.  His only real backfire, in my opinion, was 1941, and I was one of the 13 people in the US who actually liked it (geez, I must be getting old)...

If I had to rank the IJ films, I'd have to agree with you, Fishyjoe.  I'd say Raiders 1st, Last Crusade a close 2nd and way, way, way, way back, Temple of doom.  I really didn't like that one...

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Raiders.

Crusade.

Doom.

Raiders is a superior film because it has the guy who jumps out of nowhere swinging his swords about - then gets shot in the face. On these grounds alone, it deserves first place.

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I've never seen any of them. 

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Raiders is perhaps the best action movie of all time, it's clear cut number one. The Last Crusade is a better movie than Temple of Doom, but Temple of Doom has always held a special place in my heart because of how violent it is, and how Indiana Jones is just pissed off all the time and kills everyone in it.

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These movies kick serious arse.

Some of the best fun one can have watching a film. And also, Indy gets to sit back at the finale of the films and let's God kick arse for him. (God hates Nazi's and Thugee cultists, it seems). Yes, I'm aware of the use of Hindu Mythology in Doom. You can all shaddap.

Big Nazi mechanic dude who Indy beats up! Yay!

Messerschmidt knocking its' sings off and sliding through a tunnel, while the pilot looks confused! Yay!

The entire Hong Kong sequence from Doom! Nice try, Lao Che! Yay!

Yeah... Probably Raiders - Crusade - Doom for me. Though I still like Doom. Just needed a bit more... er... I dunno. SOmething. Too focussed on one area. Too many damn kids. Needed more rollicking adventures across the globe. And Nazi's.

Indy kills a whole bunch of Nazi's with a single shot from his pistol! Yay!

etc.

So many of these moments in the films stand out for me.

*huggles the Indiana Jones series*

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There's gonna be a Lego Indy game too.

First Lego Batman, now Lego Indy... best. shit. ever.

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Shia Lebouf in Indiana Jones 4?  FUCK THAT.

SCREW THE WHOLE THING! 

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I like Shia. Even Stevens owns your soul.

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Agreed. Even Stevens is great.

I'm serious.

Temple Of Doom had a lot going for it, but the sidekick characters were just too annoying and the action sequences were too over the top, even for Indiana Jones. I always roll my eyes at the mine cart sequence, even though it's one of the more famous/popular scenes.

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His blood will taint the franchise. 

And I liked Even Stevens sillies.... especially Ren Stevens.  But Shia Lebouf is a flavor of the month little bitch.  And he will ruin our favorite franchises if directors and producers seek him out.  He isn't worth seeking out.  HE WILL RUIN OUR FUCKING MOVIES.  PLEASE UNDERSTAND, HE'S RUINING OUR CHILDHOODS AND OUR CHILDREN AND OUR FAMILIES, HE MUST BE FUCKING STOPPED. 

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Not that I have any opinion about Shia Lebouf (what kind of name is that anyway?), but I must add that I'm a bit concerned about this, too.

Let's hope that this guy won't run along Indiana Jones the entire film, making stupid remarks all the time....

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What's up with action heroes getting pretty-boy/whiny little bitch sidecicks? First John McClane and Justin Long, now Indiana Jones and Shia Lebouf, fuck that

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It's been going that way for some time now.  They use the pretty boy/whiny little bitch to emphasize the fact that the main character (John Mclane, IJ, etc) is very MANLY ("Manly, yes, but I like it too!" ).  I think it's a stupid trend, but the suits in Hollyweird pretty much demand it.  Buncha morons...

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They should have Josh Hardnit(Sp?) to be his sidekick again and they could have had a Hollywood Homicide reunion.

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Again?  When were they sidekicks in an indiana jones film?  Or... ever really...

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The movie title is in his post, dinkybutt.

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That was an indiana jones film? 

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I loved it. It was totally Indiana Jones getting drunk, having sex, and beating the shit out of black people for 90 minutes.

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They should just have Indiana Jones team up with Han Solo

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I would be in full agreement with that statement.  The only problem being that Indiana Jones is like 243rd generational descendant of Han Solo.  One of them would have to travel through time.

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Shi-what La-who?  Is he supposed to be playing the young Indy or something?  I see on the IMDB page that John Hurt is listed as Abner Ravenwood, which makes me think it will be one of those crazy, dual-timeline movies like Godfather II.  If they're bringing back Karen Allen for sure, I'll be happy.  She was about the only good female lead the series had.

All this Indy talk makes me want to bust out my bullwhip and put on a fedora.

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I want to start melting nazi faces again

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I think we're all forgetting one person who must be in the 4th movie. And he certainly isn't too thrilled he hasn't been mentioned yet....

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that's cause he WON'T be in the movie...
"Sean Connery was asked to reprise his role as Henry Jones, Sr. from Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (1989). But Connery turned it down because he did not want to come out of retirement."

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I think Temple of Doom was way far behind the two other films. It suffered from a plot that was just extremely straightforward. No traveling or figuring stuff out, every major issue was dealt with by the characters' haphazard fumbling throughout the movie. It had a lot of the ingredients that every action adventure movie of the time had, and that makes it less its own. It's still fairly enjoyable, though I hardly ever watch it.
 

Originally posted by tyraniak:
First John McClane and Justin Long

The difference here is that Long kicks ass.

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Except he doesn't.  He will always be Warren P. Cheswick.

"P" stands for many things.  Some of them vulgar; some of them less vulgar.  Some are things he is; others describe things he lacks.

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Originally posted by DrThunder88:
He will always be Warren P. CheswickBrandon from Galaxy Quest.

Also, Crusade > Raiders > Doom.

"We named the dog Indiana."

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I feel compelled to agree with that. Grander scale, better cinematography and art direction... But it doesn't have the "guy with the sword" or the "nazi with the coathanger" scene. I guess I sway back and forth between the two.
 

Originally posted by DrThunder88:
Except he doesn't.  He will always be Warren P. Cheswick.

Yeah, and Warren rules all over the place. Didn't you see his band covering Smokey Robinson's Tears of a Clown?

Justin Long was the single thing about Jeepers Creepers that wasn't a perfect example of suck (I couldn't make myself sit through it, though)

Having said that, I haven't seen Die Hard yet, so I don't know what kind of a sidekick he is, and since we're not subjected to all of your frenzied tabloid hype I don't know him as a prettyboy at all. Besides, prettyboy? Don't people know he's practically 30? Not like Shia who will never break 20.

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I thought Justin Long ran OS X?   

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Originally posted by Pikka Bird:
The difference here is that Long kicks ass.

And Shia LaBeouf doesn't?  Go watch Holes and see if you still think so.

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Originally posted by DrThunder88:
He will always be Warren P. CheswickBrandon from Galaxy Quest.

Wow, somebody actually watched Galaxy Quest?

I agree that Last Crusade was equal to, if not better than, Raiders.  Come on, it's got Sean Connery and he plays a pansy!

 

Originally posted by Pikka Bird:
Having said that, I haven't seen Die Hard yet, so I don't know what kind of a sidekick he is...

I bet he's a wisecracker who always seems to get in over his head but ends up redeeming himself in the eyes of the hero.

I don't see how he could be that good.  History shows that sarcastic, White action-oriented cop characters should be partnered with a slightly grouchy, non-action oriented, Black guy.  It's a formula that worked in the Lethal Weapon series and the two Die Hard films that didn't suck ass.

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yeah, Sam Jackson and carl winslow were good sidekicks

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I heard Karen Allen (Marion Ravenwood) is coming back for the fourth movie.   I've seen all the Indy movies.  They're really good.  I liked all three Indiana Jones movies equally. 

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If IMDB is anything to go by then yes, she is coming back, and they list the working title as being "City of the Gods". Wow, grand.

@Dr.Thünder: There's some truth to that. I do hope they don't go for that new-school formula.

@David: I have seen this "Holes" on a shelf somewhere but I let it sit there because the description on the cover made it sound like a movie that tries to be The Goonies. But if that was a proper recommendation then maybe I will see if my budget will allow me to have it.

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The book is better.....[/endobviousstatement]

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Well, I remember hearing that the new Indy movie is set 19 years after Last Crusade, and with the reappearance of Marion and the appearance of a 20-ish year old guy, could this mean our favorite archaeologist has a son?

I think it would take the power of The Ark for this not to lead to the old ass-kicker toting around the spoiled nerdy kid formula. 

edit - However, having watched the comic-con video on the website, my hopes are renewed, and it looks like that hopefully will not be the case. Hopefully.

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and the title is...

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Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull

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If it takes you to an alternate dimension where you can still see your friends but they can't see you and then a ali angel thing appears and asks you if you hate the goa Nazis, I'm gonna be pissed.

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Still, the title seems to point to South America...

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...and since it's set in the 1950s and numerous Nazis went there, we might get to see Indy dealing with them again.