DrThunder88

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Snipe.
Why would they use two separate shots of almost the exact same thing?
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Nixorbo

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Then why is there an entire Nazi missing in the top one?
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i_c_weiner

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« Reply #83 on: 04-28-2008 18:02 »
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- They're Commies, not Nazis. Indy already pwn'd them.
- He went to a gulag.
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DrThunder88

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« Reply #84 on: 04-29-2008 04:26 »
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Those are totally Americans. I see an M1 Carbine and a Thompson submachine gun. EDIT - peep this:  M1's rear sight and part of the receiver clearly visible. Soldier standing in front of the boxes clearly holding a Thompson (1928A1, I think). "USAF" printed on wall in background.  Soldiers on left carrying Thompsons. "US Air Force" printed on large building in background. Car markings partially obscured, but similar to earlier shot reading "U.S. Army, 1B7731, For official use only" Found this in the German version:  Totally a Carbine.
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DrThunder88

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I'm wondering if it's going to dispense with the usual supernatural element and replace it with sci-fi. Roswell looks to fit in unless it's a red herring. A red alien herring!
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Nixorbo

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I'm still holding out for an SG1 crossover
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DrThunder88

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Great, Jeff. Now I'm not going to read anything until I see the movie just to keep from unintentionally seeing spoilers. Though I am pretty sure the good guys will win.
Also, does anyone know if the Lego Indiana Jones game for the Wii uses motion-sensing for controlling Indy's whip? That may give me the motivation I need to get a Wii. Whipping the shit out of people and things has always been a fantasy of mine. Also, it's possibly the best out-of-context statement ever.
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coldangel

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Quiet, or I'll whip you.
That's right, the BDSM element was largely removed from the film version.
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DrThunder88

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Yes. Unless you're a Communist.
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Bend-err

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movie was good, ending sucked
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Smitty

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Russians driving into an anti-Communist rally = excellent. Aliens = not so good. The fake passing-of-the-torch ending was good. Nowhere near as good as Raiders of the Lost Ark or Last Crusade, which is exactly how I wanted it to be.
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Bend-err

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the ending sucked though... big time
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Smitty

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Originally posted by Bend-err: the ending sucked though... big time Definitely. Should have ended on top of the mountain (well, it should have ended about half an hour before that...).
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Bend-err

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it could have ended "home" but not THAT way!
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Seymour_My_Hero

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I'm going to see it *checks time* an hour!
Sounds great!
I'm excited. Wish me luck!
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i_c_weiner

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Is it just me or does Shia LaBoeuf ruin all franchises he touches? Thumbs Up: - IT'S INDIANA FRAKIN' JONES!
- Cate Blanchet as a Red
- The Lost Ark of the Covenant making an appearance
- Once again, IT'S INDIANA FRAKIN' JONES!
- "I've got a bad feeling about this"
- John Hurt's performance
- Roswell connection
- Atomic bomb scene
- John Williams' score
Thumps Down: - Shia LaBoeuf
- Henry Jones III
- Killing off Henry Jones, Sr.
- The Lost Ark of the Covenant only making a brief appearance
- The plot starting right off the back
- Revealing the Mac double agent and Shia LaJones twists way too early
- Indiana basically losing
- The wedding ending
- The "passing of the torch" moment[/spoiler]
About Marion:
It was awesome that they connected this movie to Raiders, but it felt like some of the things weren't needed. Marion was a nice touch, but the fact that Indy is now attached to her and "Mutt Jones" hurt the movie, in my opinion. If Mutt wasn't in the movie and Marion was, I would've liked it more. If Marion wasn't in the movie and Mutt was in it not as Indy's son, I would've liked it more. It just felt like this story twist hurt the movie. Overall, this was a great movie. It was funny with the "fish out of water" moments of Indy in the late 50's. Some of the things hurt the movie, in my opinion, and it could've been better. However, I think I might be looking at the negatives too much. As said before, IT'S INDIANA FRAKIN' JONES! The good things were great. There were plenty of little jokes throughout the movie that harken back to the old movies, and even Star Wars. I want to see it again. 4 more times tops. I'll give it an A-, putting it in the running for Best of '08 with Cloverfield.
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Seymour_My_Hero

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DUUUUDE! THE MOVIE WAS FREAKING AMAZING! Though the ants were a little too creepy for me, it was overall 9.5/10
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DrThunder88

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I'd say go see it in the theater just in case we never get a chance to see another Indy movie on the big screen. Re: Ark of the Callback. The reason it wasn't on screen more (and I think it shouldn't have been on screen at all) is because it would've meant mixing the mythologies. The first three films did (for the most part) a good job of keeping the theological systems that governed the artifacts separate. There was no need to wonder which god could beat up the other god. Since the first and third movies dealt with the same mythology, it would make some sense that an Ark callback would pop up.
I think there could have been a much more elegant way of coming across the Ark that would have been both funny and more poignant than it just becoming roadkill, but individual results may vary. And now that I've had some time to reflect, another thing comes to mind. Early in the film there is a conversation between Indy and Charming English Fellow Who Very Pointedly Isn't Marcus Brody (damn you, Denholm...you and your AIDS) about being at the age when life stops giving and starts taking. Later, Indy gets a son and a wife, so the earlier line turns out to be ironic. Actually it started out as ironic since I don't think anyone who's seen any of the hype wouldn't have guessed those two things would be happening by the end credits. A nice subtextual touch, but nowhere near as well executed as Last Crusade's.
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Smitty

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Originally posted by DrThunder88: Re: Ark of the Callback.
The reason it wasn't on screen more (and I think it shouldn't have been on screen at all) is because it would've meant mixing the mythologies. The first three films did (for the most part) a good job of keeping the theological systems that governed the artifacts separate. There was no need to wonder which god could beat up the other god. Since the first and third movies dealt with the same mythology, it would make some sense that an Ark callback would pop up.
I think there could have been a much more elegant way of coming across the Ark that would have been both funny and more poignant than it just becoming roadkill, but individual results may vary. I don't think they needed to come across it at all. I mean, anyone who knows anything about Indy will know the second they see a big warehouse with lots of crates that the Ark is in there, without having the camera linger on it for two seconds. It's like Spielberg is saying "Look how clever we are. We remembered that the Ark was put in a warehouse. Did you remember? I don't think you did, so I'll show you now."
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Originally posted by i_c_weiner:
Thumps Down: - Shia LaBoeuf
- Henry Jones III
- Killing off Henry Jones, Sr.
- The Lost Ark of the Covenant only making a brief appearance
- The plot starting right off the back
- Revealing the Mac double agent and Shia LaJones twists way too early
- Indiana basically losing
- The wedding ending
- The "passing of the torch" moment
I do have to say a couple of things here, Indy "basically loses" in Raiders of the Lost Arc as well, and I believe Temple of Doom pretty much jumped into the plot balls first. [
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DrThunder88

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« Reply #117 on: 05-23-2008 09:31 »
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Originally posted by Smitty: I don't think they needed to come across it at all. Right. Like I said, I didn't think it should have even been brought up, and like you said, the way it was shown was either forcing their "cleverness" down our throats or strictly pandering to the "I get jokes!"-crowd. That being said, I now sort of wish that whole section of the movie took place somewhere else, but then you wouldn't have that outrageous escape sequence. I think the film would've been better for not having it either, but now I'm just playing armchair filmmaker.
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