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Zogonif

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« on: 05-22-2005 09:18 »

Has anyone ever seen this short lived show its another one created by Joss whedon (Buffy, Angel)
SlackJawedMoron

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« Reply #1 on: 05-22-2005 09:20 »

This show kicks so much damn ass.

Shiny? Where are you? Firefly nerds, unite!

Serenity, baby. Watch it, or I'll eat you.
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« Reply #2 on: 05-22-2005 14:03 »

I agree.  Firefly was my favorite bastardized live-action rip-off of Outlaw Star ever.

Also, Jewel Staite is hot.
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« Reply #3 on: 05-22-2005 20:19 »
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Originally posted by David A:
I agree.  Firefly was my favorite bastardized live-action rip-off of Outlaw Star ever.

Yes, but no-one cares about anime.   tongue

 
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Also, Jewel Staite is hot.

Aye.
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« Reply #4 on: 05-22-2005 22:37 »

Great show.  I'm really looking forward to the movie. My sister has tickets to an advanced screening, but I sadly can't go... it sucks.  (My sister has also met Jewel Staite several times)
bankrupt

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« Reply #5 on: 05-22-2005 23:01 »

I watched and enjoyed the brief, out of order episodes that fox played before they did their usual and dropped the show.  I have to get the DVDs or rent them one of these days so I can actually see them in the proper order.

There's a movie coming you say?
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« Reply #6 on: 05-22-2005 23:16 »

 
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Originally posted by Slacky:
Yes, but no-one cares about anime.

Apparently Joss Whedon does.  That's where he gets most of his ideas.
DotheBartman

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« Reply #7 on: 05-22-2005 23:27 »

Ha ha, burn!

To be honest, I haven't seen the show, but I watched the movie trailer and it just looked like typical cowboys-in-space schlock.  Someone enlighten me about what actually made it so unique/good.
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« Reply #8 on: 05-23-2005 00:12 »

How could you say that, Slacky?  Did Puni Puni Poemi damage you that much?

On Firefly:  I downloaded the first couple episodes, saw the bar-room brawl, thought it was kinda cool, then they jump to a scne of a nightmare about being operated on, and I had to turn it off.  Syntheticly altered female?  Too Anime for live action.  I'll give it another shot later, though.

I saw the preview for serenity, and I can sum my reaction into one word:

"MOOLTIPASS!"
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« Reply #9 on: 05-23-2005 01:46 »

a thread on a cancelled show? almost as bad as an ENTIRE message board about a cancelled show.....


My friend was very into it, and the movie does look very good.
Zogonif

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« Reply #10 on: 05-23-2005 03:06 »

I've only seen 2 episodes of the show and from what i saw it was actually not bad, Only problem was they had the show late at night aroun 12:00
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« Reply #11 on: 05-23-2005 03:25 »
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How could you say that, Slacky? Did Puni Puni Poemi damage you that much?

In a word: yes.

Zogonif

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« Reply #12 on: 05-23-2005 08:26 »

Damn straight the movie looks good
SlackJawedMoron

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« Reply #13 on: 05-30-2005 19:46 »

 
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Someone enlighten me about what actually made it so unique/good.

Found this list online. You may argue about it's quality, but it's pretty amusing, and sums up enough good points about the show to use in response to your question.  tongue

Top Ten Ways Firefly is Better Than Star Wars

10. Whedon can write snappy dialogue. To Lucas snappy dialogue consists of talking about how a chick's skin isn't as rough as sand.

9. Belly dancers in the Firefly 'verse are not green. With tentacles.

8. Reavers are way scarier than a bratty adolescent who whines that Obi-Wan never lets him do anything.

7. River could kill Anakin with her brain.

6. Kaylee is a better engineer than Chewie. Cuter, too.

5. Women are respected in the Firefly 'verse. If Anakin tried to paw Zoey like he did Padme, he'd end up in the Vader suit a lot sooner...losing his other human arm in the process.

4. Serenity can do a Crazy Ivan. Let's see the Millenium Falcon do that.

3. There are no Ewoks in the Firefly 'verse. And never will be. Ever.

2. There are no whores in the Star Wars Universe. And never will be. Ever.

And the Number One Reason Why Firefly is Better Than Star Wars:

1. Mal Reynolds ALWAYS gets to shoot first.

Pitt Clemens

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« Reply #14 on: 05-30-2005 20:36 »
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The top ten list of the next logical progression:

10) Red is SO much cooler than grey.
9) No matter what is fired at her, if Aisha is determained enough, she WILL kill you.
8) The McDougals Would have chased Mal out the galaxy.
7) When the guns yeild up, there's always caster shells.
6) Twilight Suzuka Can also conserve your ammo
5) You've got to get to the galactic layline in something more snazzy than a cargo ship.
4) Serenity can't win in a fist-fight.
3) When all-else fails Melfina can fold into a convenient tote bag.
2) I don't care how tough you think you are, there are kung-fu fighting, space-ship blasting housecats in this universe.

and the number one reason:

1) Why the hell bother leaving the hot-spring planet?
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« Reply #15 on: 05-31-2005 08:07 »

I've got to watch this. It sounds just like my sort of thing.
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« Reply #16 on: 05-31-2005 12:11 »

Question: Do I need to watch the series before I see Serenity?  The answer's probably yes, but I thought I'd make sure.
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« Reply #17 on: 05-31-2005 16:16 »
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My answer is, probably not, as the movie will probably recap.

I have the series on DVD, and it's awesome.

Favourite episode?  "War Stories".
SlackJawedMoron

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« Reply #18 on: 05-31-2005 19:17 »

It's the episode that made torture funny!  big grin

@Nerdo: From what I've heard of the advance screening's that have been shown (while desperately trying to avoid spoilers), the movie IS a little more difficult for the casual movie-goer to get into then the fan, but it's not impossible. I'd say that watching the series (it's only 14 episodes, anyway) is reccomended, but not vital.
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« Reply #19 on: 06-02-2005 16:20 »

 
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Originally posted by SlackJawedMoron:
It's the episode that made torture funny!   big grin

That said, I also like the one(s) with Mals "wife".  Mainly because she's rather generously "stacked".

Gotta love them. (Pun intended).

You're like the fun vampire, but instead of sucking blood, you just suck...

STILL The Cuddly Face Of Heavy Metal
Pitt Clemens

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« Reply #20 on: 07-19-2005 16:24 »
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Nix came over.  He brought Firefly DVDs.  I shall now squarely eat my words.  I can see that there are several ispirations from several sources, but it's not a rip off at all, of anything.  Firefly is a beast all its own, and it's a beast I've become accotin to.  I now mourn two wonderful sci-fi series killed early by dumb fox executives.
evan

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« Reply #21 on: 07-20-2005 03:35 »
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My friend (who's huge into anime) is correct in that Firefly does indeed 'borrow' quite a lot from certain anime serieses. He still likes the show alright, but it's definately annoying that every other episode has some reference to Outlaw Star or Trigun in it. For those not familiar with those animes, it must seem fresh. But for those who've seen it, it just comes off as 'been there, done that.' Not to say it's a bad show: I fully enjoyed the three or four episodes I saw at my friend's house. Still, it's not necessarily as groundbreaking as fans would like you to believe.

edit - and the actor who plays Mal looks a lot like Jason Bateman from Arrested Development. That weirds me out.
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« Reply #22 on: 07-21-2005 00:14 »
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I've seen all of Firefly and Trigun.  I've seen  (pitt, help me out here - how many discs did we watch?) of Outlaw Star.  Other than the odd homage here and there (girl in a box!  space western!) I'm not getting the ripoff vibe at all.  Honestly, I'd compare Firefly more to Star Wars than anything else.

@evan: I'd say the "groundbreaking" bit would be the camerawork.  How many other scenes involving spaceships and the like in any other show/movie/whatever can you think of where they zoom in and the ship is out of frame and out of focus?  I love the camerawork.
Pitt Clemens

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« Reply #23 on: 07-21-2005 00:56 »
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YOu completed 3 of the 6 outlaw star discs, Nix.  And in one sitting no less!  I'm sure Gene dressed as Wolfwood was more than enough compensation for this feat though.

Things I want in Serenity:
-Reavers
-River's backstory flushed
-Saffron cameo
-At least two refrences that make me point at the screen and say "I KNOW WHAT THAT'S FROM!"
-Inara's return
-Kaylee to say "Golly!" at least once.
-Folk soundtrack
-Earth.
-No aliens.
-Space combat
-gunslinger combat
-A cameo appearance by Yasuhiro Nightow, Hongo Mitsuru or Watanabe Shinichiro

A geek can dream can't he?

Back to the TV show:  Heart of Gold made a good run at the plot to "Unforgiven" and had some decent moments and scenes, with the exception of one or two cheezy lazer effects.   Then cut into the well edited daytime-soap sex and super suggestive on-screen action and dialogue for a shouldn't do that on television feel.  Everything flows right up to the end (which is why I felt compelled to write a review) where Suddenly Inara freaks out and delivers a monalogue that sounds more like Felicity than Firefly.  After seeing a few episodes, I wanted the show to go on, but not at the expence of turning it into ANOTHER toughy feely girl drama.  Hopefully Serenity will land them on their feet after this pretentious cliffhanger.
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« Reply #24 on: 07-21-2005 01:00 »

New Battlestar Galactica.  They had that shaky camerawork too.

Firefly had silence in space, sound doesn't travel through a vaccuum.  I liked that.
SlackJawedMoron

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« Reply #25 on: 07-21-2005 01:30 »

Well, from what I hear, Pitt...

 
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Things I want in Serenity:
-Reavers Yep
-River's backstory flushed Yep
-Saffron cameo Heard nothin', sadly
-At least two refrences that make me point at the screen and say "I KNOW WHAT THAT'S FROM!" Well, um, maybe. That's not really something I can answer, is it? And yet, I tried anyway. What a fool I've been <seppuku'd!>
-Inara's return Know it, thank goodness. That woman is pure gorgeous.
-Kaylee to say "Golly!" at least once. Well, I certainly hope so. Teehee.
-Folk soundtrack Apparently not... I think it's going to be more sci-fi-esque orchestral, which is sad, really.
-Earth. No idea.
-No aliens. Yeppers
-Space combat If the preview is anything to go by, yes.
-gunslinger combat Well, it wouldn't really be Firefly without it, would it?
-A cameo appearance by Yasuhiro Nightow, Hongo Mitsuru or Watanabe Shinichiro So many kinds of doubting.


Pitt Clemens

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« Reply #26 on: 07-21-2005 11:27 »

Thanks for the info, Slackey, Now for the love of God, pull the sword out and get a bandaid.
bankrupt

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« Reply #27 on: 07-21-2005 12:52 »

Is the whole cast from the TV series in the movie?  I saw a trailer for Serenity before the new Batman move and I don't remember seeing the hot mechanic chick in the preview.  It was the only movie preview of the bunch that didn't make me want to vomit (like Stealth: Oh no!  The drone got struck by lightning and now it's evil!  Run!).

If anyone needs a refresher on the series, Sci-Fi channel is running it (weekly I assume) starting Friday at 7:00 PM EST.  I assume they'll show it in the correct order unlike our favorite TV station.
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« Reply #28 on: 07-22-2005 01:41 »

Pitt - you kno9w I didn't show you the last episode, right?  Heart of Gold was the 2nd to last.

Actually watched through the Serenity trailer today.  I'm pretty sure I saw a Reaver in there.
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« Reply #29 on: 10-03-2005 21:38 »

Whoops.
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« Reply #30 on: 10-03-2005 21:58 »
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So...best place to buy the DVDs?  Serenity managed to get me addicted to this show all by itself, and I'm too neurotic and lazy to use torrents for TV shows.

Also, I agree with everything stated thus far about Jewel Staite.
bankrupt

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« Reply #31 on: 10-04-2005 00:24 »

Best Buy?  I was going to watch my brother's copy of the DVD, but he sold it.  frown

I haven't seen the movie yet.  I'm going to try and go see it this coming weekend.  It's the only recent film I've actually been looking forward to seeing.  I want to make sure I catch it in the theater.
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« Reply #32 on: 10-04-2005 11:28 »

Best Buy seems the safest bet.
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« Reply #33 on: 10-04-2005 17:38 »

I like this series because the guy who played Animal Mother (Adam Baldwin) is in it. Animal Mother kicks ass.
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« Reply #34 on: 10-05-2005 00:59 »

So is Steve the Pirate.
chay´s head

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« Reply #35 on: 10-05-2005 07:56 »

I always think of him as the gay guy from 28 days.
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« Reply #36 on: 10-06-2005 20:26 »

So... Serenity trailer, looked cool...
Do I have to go and watch Firefly now to "get" it??  frown
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« Reply #37 on: 10-07-2005 01:45 »

You don't have to - they do a pretty good job of making sure of that - but you may want to afterwards, for the sheer awesomeness.

So the story I've heard is that if Serenity does $85 mil, Universal will sign on to make a trilogy.

So anyone that doesn't pay to see it at least once is banned.
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« Reply #38 on: 10-07-2005 06:59 »

That SW vs. FF list could spark a heated argument, but I'll let it lie for the time being.
I'll just say that I'm getting stoked about the movie. The reviews are good and even though there has been no sign of the series or the movie over here, I'll probably try to get my claws on it.
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« Reply #39 on: 10-09-2005 02:35 »

Ooh, I just thought of an addition to the SW vs. FF thingy:

11. Leia never calls Han Captain Tight Pants, and never will.
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