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PEE Poll: Which Futurama character is the worst?
Zapp Brannigan's horse, Felicity. What kind of useless war horse is scared of a little laser fire?   -6 (6.9%)
The woman that Adlai Atkins accidentally assumed was Leela after her eye surgery, and made no effort to correct him while he removed the bandage   -25 (28.7%)
The kid on the internet that is clearly an offensive recreation of David X. Cohen   -2 (2.3%)
The ungrateful asshole kid that wants Santa to give him a coffin for his Grandpa   -2 (2.3%)
The idiots that wanted to cook and eat Leeloo. MONSTERS!   -0 (0%)
The five-eyed alien from "A Bicyclops Built for Two" who probably ruined a very expensive wedding dress running between different castles   -1 (1.1%)
The Nibblonian chef that clearly did no research into Fry's eating capabilities, thus wasting massive amounts of food   -6 (6.9%)
The mugger that attempted to rob the crew after they gained superpowers. What kind of sick degenerate carries out violent robberies using robot children?   -1 (1.1%)
The Planet Express trash compactor that manipulated Amy into almost tearing her hand off   -8 (9.2%)
Melllvar's mother. Can't that bitch respect his collectible Star Trek actors?   -2 (2.3%)
The woman that tells Bender that he's not stuck, even though the poor robot clearly had his foot trapped in a mailbox   -3 (3.4%)
The guy that steal's Fry's bike in the first episode and sarcastically exclaims "Happy new year!" like an insufferable dickhead   -0 (0%)
The cool-o-meter, that has for some reason decided that it has the authority to assign social status to naive children based on their material possesions   -4 (4.6%)
The Iron Chef reporter that was insulted by Elzar. She probably deserved it for being so nosy   -1 (1.1%)
The pet shop owner. Electric snails are stupid, so he's stupid   -0 (0%)
Mrs. Mellinger. Yes, you bind motherfucker, Bender is quite obviously a robot   -6 (6.9%)
The video shop owner that yells "Everybody hit the deck!" after Fry mentions Star Trek. He could've quietly called the police instead of causing a panic   -1 (1.1%)
The robot that looks like C-3PO. What the fuck? He's not a Futurama character, unless you want to be sued by Disney   -4 (4.6%)
The Neanderthal from "Fun on a Bun" that insincerely offers love to the German guy she was beating up moments prior. She's taking advantage of him, I assure you   -2 (2.3%)
Katrina the fairy, who refuses to grace Planet Express with her fairy magic unless the What-if-Machine is in use. Damn TV screens are taking over society   -13 (14.9%)
Total Voters: 87

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« Reply #160 on: 07-03-2017 12:32 »
« Last Edit on: 07-03-2017 12:35 »


If I were in charge of life and for some reason was forced to remove one of the primary Futurama characters, it would probably be Amy.  In my opinion she's the least consistent major character, but that gives a little leeway to the writers when it comes to putting episodes together.

I don't think she's a bad character, just not a terribly well defined one.  The character that annoys me the most is probably Flexo.

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« Reply #161 on: 07-03-2017 15:50 »

Agreed there, I think her inconsistency is what bugs me, that and she just annoys me.
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« Reply #162 on: 07-06-2017 06:29 »

Hey, I made this thread!

I expect you to retract that statement; Amy is almost certainly the best, most realistically portrayed charcter in futrama.
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« Reply #163 on: 04-08-2018 00:29 »

I dunno, I think Amy could do with a bit more consistency but overall I find her quite stable: extremely intelligent and genius level academic, rather slow witted and naive in everyday life, due to being sheltered and rather naive and sometimes a bit... slow there.  And she is usually friendly and sociable but gets very bitchy when she and Leela are competing.

Honestly I think of Amy as being a very underutilised character.   I think that rather then have the whole PlanEx team join the main trio on many a mission or delivery, I think Hermes and the Professor work better as a duo in the office, while Amy and Zoidberg make good additions to the main trio in they bring a lot to the table.  Hermes is much more one note and less entertaining then Amy in my opinion.  He's too much of a straight man, while Amy works better as a comic foil for a number of far more entertaining character traits: her naivite and utter cluelessness with everyday money, her binge eating traits, her relationship with her horrible parents, her profoundly messed up childhood as a target of her parents constant verbal and emotional abuse undershot with lavish gifts and privileges, her nymphomania, her skill in combat and her clumsiness and her tendency to curse in Cantonese when enraged.   
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« Reply #164 on: 04-15-2018 06:44 »

I don't know why I put such odd choices on the poll. Who could possibly dislike Lrrr, Scruffy or Nixon?
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« Reply #165 on: 04-30-2018 02:36 »

Well I'm pretty sure  a lot of people involved in the Vietnam War aren't a big fan of Mr Nixon 
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« Reply #166 on: 04-30-2018 06:11 »

I joined the military during the American War (as the Vietnamese refer to it). And no, I did not care very much for Nixon. At all. But I must give credit where it is due, and Nixon's overtures to the Chinese and subsequent opening of relations was an achievement that's difficult to overstate. And in the end, his strategy in the war paid off, and brought all the parties to the negotiating table and brought western involvement to an end. His character in Futurama definitely *has* character, for sure. smile

That said, the Flexo character really grates against my nerves, and not in a "good" way, like Michelle. Michelle is a deliberately annoying character, and plays off against Fry in a way that works well. It's difficult to articulate my dislike—he just seems like, idk, like a cheap character.

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« Reply #167 on: 05-01-2018 10:13 »

He's the evil Bender.
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« Reply #168 on: 05-01-2018 16:40 »

If Flexo were simply the Hyde to Jekyll Bender, that would be one thing. But Bender is plenty evil as it is, though he has occasional moments of weakness during which he demonstrates a tiny bit of empathy and/or compassion. It's not a "Mirror, Mirror" relationship at all, as I see it. They're BOTH evil at heart—that's why they get along so well at times!

Sure, initially Flexo is presented in a way which is clearly meant to imply that he's Bender's evil twin, and that made for an interesting plot. But in a general sense, he's not even close to being Bender's opposite.

What am I missing?

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« Reply #169 on: 05-14-2018 00:03 »

Flexo is a character I like when he turns up, he's not a favourite but I enjoy what he brings.  I don't think he's enough of a prominent character for me to feel particularly strongly about him.
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« Reply #170 on: 05-22-2018 21:18 »

I find the two episodes in which Flexo prominently figures to be rather mediocre, though I'm not sure it's really Flexo's fault, per se. "The Lesser of Two Evils" has a great first act, but it all goes downhill from there; "Bendless Love" has a funny subplot with the Professor's new-dangled wangle on life, but the A plot is pretty straightforward love-interest-of-the-week stuff that I never find all that entertaining in sitcoms.

Flexo's failures as a character, in other words, are probably inextricable from the failures of the episodes in which he appears. He's really more a concept than he is a character, anyway--and, as Tachy notes, that concept itself is rather vague. Flexo is basically the Good Guy to Bender's Bad Guy; however, because Bender is our protagonist and Flexo isn't, we are put in the compromising moral position of rooting for the Bad Guy's success over the Good Guy, whether the prize is a Jumbonium-topped tiara or a big-busted fembot. Which is, I guess, the "joke"...except it's not a very funny joke, and Flexo is not a very interesting "character." That said, I'm with SpaceGoldfish: Flexo is such a non-entity that I can't muster any strong antipathy for him or the way in which the writers used him.

As for the other options on this poll--the new run basically killed any affection I had for Scruffy. His star-making turn in "The Prisoner of Benda" notwithstanding, he's a character who works best in small doses--veritable cameos, really, and largely non-speaking ones at that--not as a PE crew member on-par with Hermes, Zoidberg, or Amy. I don't mean that in some weird classist way, like a custodian should not be on the same level as the resident bureaucrat, doctor, and grad student (for a counterpoint, consider the Janitor in Scrubs: he's one of the best and most nuanced characters on that show); I just don't think secretly-sensitive-and-erudite-janitor is all that interesting a character type. The running joke of "I'm Scruffy, the janitor" was funny enough in the old run (if, you know, unsustainable long-term), but the attempts to expand upon Scruffy and turn him into a semi-developed tertiary character in the new run just didn't do much for me.

Scruffy's case is symptomatic of the new run's problem of erring from the formula that makes the first four seasons so compelling--the trio of Fry, Leela, and Bender making deliveries and building friendships and occasionally pulling one or more of their other coworkers into their shenanigans--and while I'm not opposed to developing erstwhile two-dimensional characters, I just don't think Scruffy was the best or most necessary candidate for such development. But I digress...
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« Reply #171 on: 05-27-2018 04:03 »

I was running to tell Bob Barker!
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« Reply #172 on: 11-24-2019 13:44 »

Remember to vote on the poll! Results are interesting so far. smile
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« Reply #173 on: 02-28-2020 05:50 »

To what Gorky was saying about Scruffy, it seems like the reason that Scruffy was funny, the recurring joke of that character, was the fact that he was disinterested in all the adventures and planet express in general.

It was implied that he didn't interact with the rest of the people in the company much off-screen at all (why else would noone know who he was), and even when some exciting moment was happening in front of him, he got involved as little as possible because of 'scheduling conflicts'.

Similar to the running joke in the Towlie episode of South Park, where the main characters simply don't care about the complicated story happening around them.

The joke seems like an observation that, even if the events in our lives seem important, from other points of view those same events may be completely unimportant. Almost zen-like, in a way (not that I really know anything about zen philosophy..).

Contrast that with the later episodes, where Scruffy hangs out with the gang and gets involved in the adventures, like in A Farewell to Arms, where he joins a search for Fry's pants, or Lethal Inspection, where he takes part in extra-curricular activities. Totally out of character.
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« Reply #174 on: 02-28-2020 07:52 »

I believe Into The Wild Green Yonder is the last time the "Who are you?????" joke was used on Scruffy. The majority of the episodes with Scruffy hanging out with the rest of the crew were after the revival, so I like to think he started spending more time with the crew because they started getting to know him better.
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« Reply #175 on: 03-04-2020 00:54 »

Ah, I like the way you think, zappdingbat--it's true that something fundamental about Scruffy's character shifted in the new run. It's possible, as UrL suggests, that this is in fact a sign of character growth, not only for Scruffy but for the rest of the PE crew...but, like, even if that is the case, so what? I guess I would've preferred that the new run lend depth to characters who were not inherently one-note, in the way an aloof mustachioed janitor was probably always destined to be.

In fact, they did that exact thing with Calculon--and in a way that built on what we'd already seen from him during the first four seasons. I mean, "The Honking" establishes Calculon as a Great Acting Robot, and "Bend Her" actually elicits sympathy for him by putting him through some serious (soap opera) pain; "The Thief of Baghead" and "Calculon 2.0" build on that existing (if negligible) inner dimension, to relative success. (I suppose you could make the argument that Calculon is a bit more of a downer in the new run than he was in the old, and that that loss of his more buffoonish qualities is for the worse, but I'd say it's a neutral-to-mildly-positive development. High praise, I know!)
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« Reply #176 on: 03-07-2020 03:19 »

Looking back, it's true that the Calculon episodes of the new run more-or-less held up. They were jokes about a vainglorious actor, which is what Calculon was.

Calculon 2.0 has some genuinely funny moments (I'm thinking especially of the segment where goes from saying he's a peasant to viscount to duke). The Robot Devil was well used there, too, holding true to his smart-evil-guy-stuck-in-a-room-full-of-people-stupider-than-him shtick.
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« Reply #177 on: 03-24-2020 16:23 »
« Last Edit on: 03-30-2020 22:15 »

Remember when we were supposed to get an episode about Scruffy's origins in the new run?

Was that an actual thing that a member of the show's crew said or was it just a throwaway-comment/rumour?
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« Reply #178 on: 03-27-2020 15:42 »

Remember when we supposed to get an episode about Scruffy's origins in the new run?

Was that an actual thing that a member of the show's crew said or was it just a throwaway-comment/rumour?

They should have hyped a reveal about Scruffy's origin in and upcoming episode, and then just done a throwaway where he's drinking his morning coffee and reads a help wanted ad for a janitor in a newspaper.
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« Reply #179 on: 04-01-2020 08:55 »

[Scruffy]Second.[/Scruffy]
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« Reply #180 on: 04-30-2020 18:13 »

Scruffy's gonna die the way he lived.
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