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boxie

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« Reply #120 on: 05-04-2004 09:42 »

I think that was his point.
BNLbum

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« Reply #121 on: 05-04-2004 17:17 »

I think Seymour was meant to be a sort of parallel to Fry. Haven't you ever heard that pets take after their owners? One of Fry's most endearing and admirable qualities is his loyalty. It's easy to see him making a similar sacrifice, despite its irrationality, for Leela, isn't it?
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« Reply #122 on: 05-04-2004 20:50 »

 
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Originally posted by Ekarderif:
But "special" is the politically correct term for retarded...

Wow, you figured that out all by yourself?

Youre a "special" little boy...

boxie

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« Reply #123 on: 05-05-2004 13:41 »

You certainly live up to the first half of your alias, don't you?
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« Reply #124 on: 05-05-2004 13:59 »

 
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Originally posted by boxie:
You certainly live up to the first half of your alias, don't you?

I try to, but sometimes it is hard. 

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« Reply #125 on: 05-05-2004 17:12 »

 
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Originally posted by Xmpel:
 Because Fry told him to wait outside Pannuci's for him. That's what made the ending so emotional.

That response doesn't make any sense.
Seymour saw Fry in the cryogenics lab. So oviously that would have been after Fry Told seymour to wait for him. we saw lots of scenes of Seymour looking for Fry. before he found him in the cryo lab. So he obviously didn't wait for Fry he looked for him a little found him, got kicked out of the building and gave up.
So I guess Seymour presumed Fy would be able to get out somehow but he still looked for him first.
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« Reply #126 on: 05-06-2004 09:32 »

 
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Originally posted by User_names_suck:
 That response doesn't make any sense.
Bla bla bla and such...

So I guess Seymour presumed Fy would be able to get out somehow but he still looked for him first.

Precisley, he figured Fry would be able to get out and therefore waited for him outside of Panuccis like Fry told him to do.


Bong - The only thing wasted is you.
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« Reply #127 on: 05-06-2004 19:40 »

But Still it wasn't as simple as that you neglected to mention that, but I feel its something that just seems an odd part of to add.

And I don't know what point I'm trying to make so I'll shut up.
zomit

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« Reply #128 on: 06-10-2004 04:53 »

*bump*

Seymour wasn't a dumb dog at all, I found him to be very smart because he knew how to sing "Walking On Sunshine" and he was really loyal because he waited there for 12 years after Fry got frozen.
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« Reply #129 on: 06-16-2004 07:39 »

 fry’s dog, Seymour wasn’t stupid he waited there at pinuches pizza because fry said wait here and ill come bake for you so Seymour waited for him to come back,
             And + he could also sing walking on sunshine,  smile
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« Reply #130 on: 06-16-2004 09:31 »

Without reading all this thread, I'll just say that IMFFHO you are forgetting that Futurama is a fiction show and not RL, and as such you shouldn't be expecting a fictional dog to behave like its RL analogue.
scooty puff snr

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« Reply #131 on: 06-18-2004 21:45 »

I cant believe anyone would call seymore dumb. I agree with a lot of others that say he was being loyal to fry and doing what he was told. Plus he was the cutest cartoon dog i have ever seen. compare him to Matt Groenings other dog creation, santas little helper, talk about a dumb dog. I think that there is a big difference between loyalty and stupidity.
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« Reply #132 on: 06-22-2004 04:09 »

The end is quite touching for those who have had or do have a dog as a pet. We can witness first hand the true loyalty of a "dumb" animal. Canned eggs impresses me with the reference to Odessyus's dog. There are plenty of examples of smart animals- look at Mr Ed!!!
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« Reply #133 on: 06-22-2004 11:01 »

I may have a dog, but the end of that episode touched me in all the wrong places. But it's not so much that the dog is dumb, but it must have emotional issues. To not have found someone new by the time of death just seems like the inability to let go. Any psychiatrists speak dog?
Jeffbot

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« Reply #134 on: 06-22-2004 13:57 »

Every time I see this episode, I have to go outside and give my dog a big hug.  I just think that he'd do the same for me as Seymour did for Fry.

For his sake, I need to avoid being frozen.

I'm in a bad mood...understand?
- Rhinox
M0le

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« Reply #135 on: 06-23-2004 02:18 »

If that happened in reality the dog would forget about you after just a few months and find somebody else to look after it.
tostos
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« Reply #136 on: 06-28-2004 00:52 »

anyone knows what is the name of the song of the scene when the dog die .. in the last momento of the episode... tanx for readme...
zomit

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« Reply #137 on: 06-28-2004 01:35 »

I'm pretty sure it's called "I Will Wait For You." Welcome to PEEL, tostos.  smile
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« Reply #138 on: 06-28-2004 02:29 »
« Last Edit on: 08-24-2004 00:00 »

I just saw Jurassic Bark and I still believe in my original opinion of Seymour. He was a dumb dog. One point made on this thread was that Seymour knew that Fry was frozen at Cryogenics and made that scene of Seymour waiting for Fry meaningless.  Why is he waiting for Fry, if he knows where he is?  Frozen at the Cryo-genics lab.  If they had cut that scene of Fry's parents dragging Seymour away from Fry's tube, then we could say that he didn't know where Fry was period and would had convinced me a little more that he would've waited that long for Fry.


Imagine in LOTF if Fry knew he had a nephew, named after him, before he dug up the grave and read what was on the tombstone.  It would not be as touching as it is right now.  Jurassic Park was not that well written as LOTF, with that mistake of Seymour seeing Fry frozen "before" he's waiting for him at Panucci's.
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« Reply #139 on: 07-01-2004 17:56 »

 
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Originally posted by tostos:
anyone knows what is the name of the song of the scene when the dog die .. in the last momento of the episode... tanx for readme...

"I will wait for you" sung by Connie Francis

Dave
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« Reply #140 on: 07-01-2004 18:04 »

 
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Originally posted by M0le:
If that happened in reality the dog would forget about you after just a few months and find somebody else to look after it.

Not necessarily.  Have you heard of the true story of Greyfriars Bobby who, when his owner died, spent his next 14 years on or around his owners grave in Greyfriars churchyard in Edinburgh in Scotland until his own death, reputedly on that grave in 1872.
He slept there every night no matter what the weather was like.  Local people fed him.  His story can be read at http://www.greyfriarsbobby.co.uk/story/story.html  and many other websites.
A statue and a drinking fountain for dogs was built to commemorate him and is still standing.
Dave
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« Reply #141 on: 08-23-2004 02:05 »

Probably because noone decided to take the dog. 
Cyberman

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« Reply #142 on: 08-25-2004 11:25 »

Nah! He's not stupid. He's smart, loyal, and can even bark the "Walking on Sunshine" song.

fryfanSpyOrama

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« Reply #143 on: 08-27-2004 01:59 »
« Last Edit on: 08-27-2004 01:59 »

David X. Cohen on the Jurassic Bark commentary read a comment from a fan.  This is what he read.

"If you don't get teary from watching the end of Jurassic Bark, you are a cold hearted bastard."

I may be a cold hearted bastard, but Seymour is still a dumb dog.  Though, I did get teary, from laughing at the final scene and therefore that statement may not apply to me.

FYI- The reason why I put down Seymour is because he let Futurama down in winning an emmy.  Regardless of what circumstances were, Jurassic Bark disappointed me.  If they had used The Why In Fry, then perhaps they would've won the emmy.
David A

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« Reply #144 on: 08-27-2004 02:08 »

Your opinions are bad, and you should feel bad.
Neil McNeil

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« Reply #145 on: 08-27-2004 02:26 »

 
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Originally posted by Cyberman:
Nah! He's not stupid. He's smart, loyal, and can even bark the "Walking on Sunshine" song.

But in the words of Bender, 'Walking on Sunshine sucks noodles!'

Jurassic Bark its the saddest and also the best Futurama ep.  It takes seriuos talent to write an episode that cuts back and forth between a 1000yr time gap, so kudos to the writing team of Futurama!
Hedonism Bot

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« Reply #146 on: 08-27-2004 09:14 »

Maybe people tried to take Seymour home, but he resisted; besides, who would just see a dog on the streets of New York and take it home? It could be rabid or something.
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« Reply #147 on: 08-28-2004 18:54 »

Hello everyone,

I'm a little late for the party here.  I've bought all four dvd sets (last one just came up last week in Canada). 
It was 18 months ago I held my 14 year old dog, Frank while the vet was giving him a shot to let him "go away" because his back legs made him cry and cry...  Being a loner, I was devastated.  I still am at times. 
I never expected what I saw on Futurama.  I just wanna add my voice to all of yours and say how much I was touched.  I think it's even changing me as a person. 
As idiotic as it may sound - right this morning I was thinking of starting a web site about Seymour...
Jicannon

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« Reply #148 on: 08-28-2004 19:11 »

 
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Originally posted by David A:
Your opinions are bad, and you should feel bad.

  laff  [Scruffy]Second.[/Scruffy]

no, Seymour definately was not stupid. He knew "Walking on Sunshine" and he found Fry in the Applied Cryogenics building and brought Fry's parents there...(although they were too stupid to notice their son right in front of them)
fryfanSpyOrama

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« Reply #149 on: 08-28-2004 19:17 »
« Last Edit on: 08-28-2004 19:17 »

Like Bender says, "Walking on Sunshine" sucks  noodles.  Though when Fry sung it, it was funny.  Now, if Seymour could've barked "Don't You Forget About Me", then I'd be impressed.
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« Reply #150 on: 08-28-2004 19:51 »

 
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Originally posted by fryfanSpyOrama:
..."Do You Forget About Me", then I'd be impressed.

If he'd also bark the "n't" in it, it would be even better  wink

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« Reply #151 on: 08-28-2004 22:00 »

Walking on Sunshine definately does not suck noodles dude. But, Bender did say it, so....no it's good.
David A

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« Reply #152 on: 08-29-2004 01:42 »

Editing your post now won't help you, Bumpy.  It's already quoted in GFF's post.
fryfanSpyOrama

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« Reply #153 on: 08-29-2004 01:48 »
« Last Edit on: 08-29-2004 01:48 »

I know that, I just wanted to correct it.  And why did you bump this thread to point that out?  This response is my excuse.   wink
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« Reply #154 on: 08-29-2004 02:09 »

 
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Originally posted by Bumpy:
 And why did you bump this thread to point that out?

I didn't.  It was already on page one.
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« Reply #155 on: 08-29-2004 15:18 »

Jurassic Bark has moved me so much inside that at moments I feel like a different person.  I've been listen to all the versions of "I will wait for you" and it's like I'm drugged on that song...  Anyone went through that phase?
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« Reply #156 on: 08-30-2004 11:21 »
« Last Edit on: 09-08-2004 00:00 »

I cried at the end when I first saw it, and I cried over and over and over again because Seymour is a loyal dog, dammit! It's because of that song and Seymour die slowly through it!  cry   cry
   If Seymour is a stupid dog, then WHY would he care so much about Fry? Why would he look for him? Why would he follow Fry everywhere he goes?
  I say to all who are not moved by the end, please watch that episode again and again until you are moved.
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« Reply #157 on: 08-30-2004 21:50 »

What did seymour exhibit that made you think he was dum? I think that it would be more unusual if he had realized that Fry was frozen and he wasn't coming back. That would probably be a bigger strech if Seymour could comprehend the fact that he wasn't coming back because he was in Cryo Stasis. The ending of "Jurrasic Bark" seemed more logical then you probably think.

If the first thing that came to your mind at the end of that episode was, "Wow, what a dum dog", you probably missed the big picture.
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« Reply #158 on: 08-30-2004 23:25 »

Every time I turn around, this thread keeps getting unearthed! Can we drop this subject already?
 
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Originally posted by fryfanSpyOpera:
I may be a cold hearted bastard, but Seymour is still a dumb dog. Though, I did get teary, from laughing at the final scene and therefore that statement may not apply to me.
Wow. You have no soul.
Seymour had no one else in his life who loved him like Fry. So, he just waited and waited for him to come back. That's what dogs do. They wait for their masters, granted they've been kind and loving to them like Fry. I found the ending very touching, but I guess I can't change one's opinion. Different opinions make the world go 'round.
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« Reply #159 on: 08-30-2004 23:50 »

 
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Originally posted by fryfanSpyOpera:
    I may be a cold hearted bastard, but Seymour is still a dumb dog. Though, I did get teary, from laughing at the final scene and therefore that statement may not apply to me.

what!?!  no no seymour is awesome he's smart,loyal and er ummmm he can bark Walking on sunshine  tongue
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