Jurassic Bark: Seymour was a dumb dog

[#200 :]

Let me go off topic for a sec,  both PL, TKOS, TWIF and others set up for the relationship of Fry and Leela.  The Sting was the last serious Fry/Leela episode aired before TDHAIPT. The Farnsworth Parabox was a Fry/Leela episode, but it wasn't as serious as The Sting.

#200   

[#201 :]

I think Fry was an idiot for not bringing Seymour back.I wish I could bring back my dead dog.

[#202 :]

You already said that, Bender_is_cool, not to be mean or anything. But to Shadowstar--Why do you hate "The Sting" so much anyway? It's a high-ranked episode behind "The Devil's Hands Are Idol Playthings" and everyone else that I know loves it?

[#203 :]

 

Originally posted by fryfanSpyOrama:
   If you don't like The Sting, then you must not like Fry and Leela's relationship.  That was a good Fry/Leela episode.

Well, I'm not Shadowstar, but I hate "The Sting" too. I don't get what people love so much about it. The lack of humor? The forced emotion? The gimmicky and unmoving plot? Stop me if I guess it.

And no, I don't hate shippiness. "The Devil's Hands are Idle Playthings" is my second favorite episode.
 

Originally posted by fryfanSpyOrama:
Jurassic Bark's ending seemed more funny than touching.

Originally posted by fryfanSpyOrama:
If they tried to make that scene funny, they failed

*Head explodes*

[#204 :]

It's quite sad and stupid to look to an episode of Futurama for realism. Especially if said episode is about a dog that can bark "I'm Walking on Sunshine."

I can understand that not everyone would be touched by this episode, but to say that the dog's behavior is "dumb" and "unrealistic" is just idiotic. This is a show which features a device that can smell objects in space, the disembodied head of Richard Nixon is the President, and his VP is the <b>headless</b> body of Spiro Agnew.

[#205 :]

I'm aware that it is a cartoon, and that many things can happen, but we as viewers can pass judgment on the things that happen in cartoons.  Some things make us cry and some things make us laugh.  I just merely posted my opinion on Seymour waiting for Fry all those years and it made me laugh.

[#206 :]

Sorry To Bring This Post Up Again...Not To Mention Someone May Have Already Said This, But I Love This Episode And Reading This "I could believe Seymour in waiting, days, weeks, and even months (six months the most) but years? Come on now." Cheesed Me Off, This Episode Was Based On An Actual Story, Where A Dog Layed By His Masters Grave For Years, Until The Dog Died Of Old Age. "but years? Come on now." You Better Believe It.

[#207 :]

Yeah, yeah.  The dog loyal to his dead master is a bit of an urban legend, but there is at least one famous true story from Japan that I posted here, including names, dates, places, and photographic evidence.  Trust me, there are thousands of corroborating witnesses to this one.  It friggin' happened.

[#208 :]

   

Originally posted by HeathCliff:
This Episode Was Based On An Actual Story, Where A Dog Layed By His Masters Grave For Years, Until The Dog Died Of Old Age. "but years? Come on now." You Better Believe It.

That just proves that some dogs are stupid in real life, too.

[#209 :]

I really wouldn't like to own a dog with your personality or with your idea of inteligence.

[#210 :]

I think we all need to rememeber that Seymour was a mut that never had anyone who cared about him. He was bonded with Fry because Fry accepted him.

Its like friendship in people. If you had few friend growing up, uyou're more likely to cherish the ones who were 'real friends'.

Seymour is loyalty. That he stayed waiting for Fry is just... Its a sweet sentiment. Maybe if people were a little more like that, the world would be a better place.

[#211 :]

Yeah, I think you've nailed it there, the episode was so good at building up the friendship throughout, with Fry being kinda insecure and miserable before he met seymour, and really happy afterwards.

You seem like a big thinker YellowSubmarine, welcome to peel!

The ending was just cold... that song, the fact that I'd recently lost a pet, and the way he closed his eyes at the end just suggested a miserable death. Although now I think about it, the final scene couldn't have shown him dying, because he was fossilied in an upright position, still at the time it was so depressing.

And yet its one of my favourites from season four, too many of the episodes just seemed rushed, Jurassic Bark actually took its time with the story between Fry and Seymour, so people really cared by the end.

And yes, I cried like a big girl during the end credits...   

[#212 :]

I reckon there are some resemblance between Seymour and ‘White Fang.’ I like this episode, the dog definitely bonded with Fry so he waited for him all those years. Anyway there was Fry's ex boss to feed him so he never needed to find himself a new owner, and that was the place he knew where Fry regularly would be at and so that's where he waited until he died.
‘White Fang’ also went back for Ethan Hawk but the difference is he found him.

[#213 :]

I wouldnt call seymour stupid, i would call him loyal. I find the ending of jurassic bark sad, with the years passing by, and the very, very end of him closing his eyes. That song made me sad to, and great, i now have said sad song stuck in my head.Oh, i made myself sad.

[#214 :]

OK, this is a very, very old, dead thread. But I couldn't read it without commenting!

I always assumed that Seymour was based on the real dog, Greyfriar's Bobby. You can read it at the link below. And to those of you who said no dog would to that in RL, think again!!
 http://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/Scotland-History/GreyfriarsBob.htm

[#215 :]

Yeah, that was already mentioned on page three of the thread.  There are plenty of other stories like that too.

Welcome to PEEL, i-c-weiner.   

[#216 :]

 

Originally posted by Zmithy:
 Although now I think about it, the final scene couldn't have shown him dying, because he was fossilied in an upright position, still at the time it was so depressing.

He fossilised in that position because rigor mortis made his legs stick out.

By the way, I hear that theyre going to have Seymour in one of the DVD movies.

[#217 :]

He's just loyal. We all try to fool ourselves once in a while.

[#218 :]

i wish I had a dog that loyal

[#219 :]

he was just waiting for his owner, the only real person to love him, I cryed so much at that last scence...

[#220 :]

As did i.

( breaks down crying)


(starts talking in robot voice) MUST TERMINATE FRYFANSPYORAMA

 

Originally posted by leelaholic:


Well, I'm not Shadowstar, but I hate "The Sting" too. I don't get what people love so much about it. The lack of humor? The forced emotion? The gimmicky and unmoving plot? Stop me if I guess it.

MUST TERMINATE LEELAHOLIC


 

[#221 :]

Actually I agree with Leelaholic about the sting , human emotion fails to move me but 'Jurassic bark' really got to me.

[#222 :]

 

Originally posted by ZoidZoid:
Actually I agree with Leelaholic about the sting , human emotion fails to move me but 'Jurassic bark' really got to me.

You know, my termination list just keeps growing and growing...

[#223 :]

I really agree with fryfan I didn't get upset at the end of Jurrasic Bark to I also thought it was quite stupid of Seymour, as fryfan has mentioned I think the The Luck Of The Fryish has a MUCH more upsetting and emotional ending by a wide margin!

[#224 :]

i think "luck of the fryish" "the sting" and "jurrasic bark" were all very moving. i would have to say that jurrasic bark moved me the most followed by luck of the fryish but not for the same reasons. jurrasic bark was just a moving and sad story where luck of the fryish told a little more about fry and his family after he was gone.

[#225 :]

In order of most touching episodes I rank them like this:

1) Jurrassic Bark
2)Luck of the Fryish
3) The Sting
4)Leelas Homeworld
5) Time keeps on Slipping

[#226 :]

 

Originally posted by Decapodian:
In order of most touching episodes I rank them like this:

1) Jurrassic Bark
2)Luck of the Fryish
3) The Sting
4)Leelas Homeworld
5) Time keeps on Slipping

Hmm not a bad list there, for mine it would probably be:

1) The Luck Of The Fryish
2) Jurrasic Bark
3) Leela's Homeworld
4) The Sting
5) Time keeps on Slipping 

[#227 :]

 

Originally posted by Decapodian:
 
He fossilised in that position because rigor mortis made his legs stick out.

That's not how rigor mortis works. Rigor mortis the stiffening and "setting" of a corpse some time following death. It is a strictly temporary thing, and would not last long enough to become the template for fossilisation even if it was the cause of Seymour being fossilised in an upright position. What is far more likely is that the dog died, and the carcass was disturbed just prior to the flash-fossilisation process. So long as the fossilisation happened within a few days of death, but after a good few hours, rigor mortis would not have been any kind of a factor.

I needed to comment on that, because it was by far the most ridiculous thing I've read on PEEL in at least a fortnight.

[#228 :]

 

Originally posted by Dave B:
 Hmm not a bad list there, for mine it would probably be:

1) The Luck Of The Fryish
2) Jurrasic Bark
3) Leela's Homeworld
4) The Sting
5) Time keeps on Slipping 

Mine would have to be
1) Time Keeps On Slipping (Duh, I'm a shipper and the missed oppotunity makes me want to sob and scream)
2)The Sting (Again, because of shippyness, but different to TKOS)
3)Jurrasic Bark (I love doggies)
4)Leela's Homeworld
5)The Luck of the Fryish

[#229 :]

 

Originally posted by totalnerduk:
 That's not how rigor mortis works. Rigor mortis the stiffening and "setting" of a corpse some time following death. It is a strictly temporary thing, and would not last long enough to become the template for fossilisation even if it was the cause of Seymour being fossilised in an upright position. What is far more likely is that the dog died, and the carcass was disturbed just prior to the flash-fossilisation process. So long as the fossilisation happened within a few days of death, but after a good few hours, rigor mortis would not have been any kind of a factor.

Alternately he was likely buried (by Pennucci in the basmente of the pizza place) wrapped up in plastic bags in a 'standing' position which was then held in place by the dirt.

[#230 :]

I thought Panuccie died before Seymour did

[#231 :]

 

Originally posted by Decapodian:
In order of most touching episodes I rank them like this:

1) Jurrassic Bark
2)Luck of the Fryish
3) The Sting
4)Leelas Homeworld
5) Time keeps on Slipping

Mine would have to be

1)The Sting
2)Jurrassic Bark
3)Time Keeps on Slipping
4)Luck of the Fryish
5)Leela's Homeworld

[#232 :]

 

Originally posted by totalnerduk:
  What is far more likely is that the dog died, and the carcass was disturbed just prior to the flash-fossilisation process. So long as the fossilisation happened within a few days of death, but after a good few hours, rigor mortis would not have been any kind of a factor.

Maybe then, just maybe, it were the whole flash fossiliasation that killed the poor bugger, like in Pompeii when that volcano erupted, there wasn't enough time to do anything and so they were fossilised as they stood, like WOOOOSH! You're a fossil bitch!

[#233 :]

Maybe that was how Old New York got destroyed?

[#234 :]

Fry is dumb for not bring him back

[#235 :]

 

Originally posted by Decapodian:
Maybe that was how Old New York got destroyed?

no, I don't think so otherwise there would be a whole lot of dried lava (I'm not sure of the actual term) covering Old New York.

[#236 :]

Maybe the aliens destroyed the dried lava when they invaded Earth?

[#237 :]

seymour is cool

[#238 :]

 

Originally posted by jle1993:
 Mine would have to be
1) Time Keeps On Slipping (Duh, I'm a shipper and the missed oppotunity makes me want to sob and scream)
2)The Sting (Again, because of shippyness, but different to TKOS)
3)Jurrasic Bark (I love doggies)
4)Leela's Homeworld
5)The Luck of the Fryish

LMAO!! JLE, are you trying to hint that you may be a shipper?!

[#239 :]

Maybe just a bit