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Xanfor

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« Reply #40 on: 05-28-2008 22:16 »

 
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Originally posted by KurtPikachu2001:

When Fry went back to the past, there was two of them.  One became Lars, and the question is, how did the other Fry get back to the year 3007? 

Time-travelling made him sleepy. Very, very sleepy. And you know, when Fry forgets to set his alarm clock, there's no telling when he's gonna be gettin' up.
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« Reply #41 on: 05-29-2008 21:42 »
« Last Edit on: 05-29-2008 21:42 »

Phil van Winkle?
ShepherdofShark

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« Reply #42 on: 06-06-2008 10:39 »

I just had a thought. The nudists "nailed the children ship" so Dwight and Cubert should be dead. But Dwight is at his parents' table at the new year celebrations (however I haven't spotted Cubert in the movie after the space battle.)

To be honest I'm glad Dwight survived but fingers crossed for Cubert being utterly deceased (little pain in the ass).

I guess it was just a throw away joke though and I should take the script a little less seriously.
NastyInThePasty

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« Reply #43 on: 06-06-2008 12:26 »

"Nailed" doesn't necessarilly mean "destroyed".
ShepherdofShark

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« Reply #44 on: 06-06-2008 14:59 »
« Last Edit on: 06-06-2008 14:59 »

When it comes to Cubert dying a man can dream can't he? But you dashed my hopes quite expertly. Bravo!   cry
Xanfor

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« Reply #45 on: 06-06-2008 18:04 »

I think of Cubert as a Scott Evil figure.

One day, he'll want to take over the family business.
Frisco17

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« Reply #46 on: 06-06-2008 22:52 »

I don't think he share's his "father's" interest in doomsday devices either. So that's a very apt analogy.
Frida Waterfall

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« Reply #47 on: 06-09-2008 18:54 »

 
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Originally posted by Xanfor:
I think of Cubert as a Scott Evil figure.

One day, he'll want to take over the family business.

Huh... I never saw it like that. But now that I have, it suits Cubert perfectly.
thetor66

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« Reply #48 on: 08-08-2008 14:05 »

lol give him a break ive seen this show 3 times and i still dont get all of it.
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« Reply #49 on: 08-25-2008 18:47 »

When Fry went back to the past, there was two of them.  One became Lars, and the question is, how did the other Fry get back to the year 3007? 

The other Fry fell in to the cryogenic freezer when he tryed to take money out of his own wallet and accidentally touched his own but.
no.9 man

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« Reply #50 on: 09-21-2008 15:49 »

They never quite had a definite arm to put Lars's wrist computer on. Sometimes it was on the left, sometimes it was on the right (most notably during the alley scene it changes almost every shot). Sometimes it was on both!


Well done for spotting such a small thing as that.
x.Bianca.x

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« Reply #51 on: 09-22-2008 09:52 »

lets riot fox studios for that massive mistake  evil laugh
Im not being sarchastic, btw
Cinimod

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« Reply #52 on: 09-22-2008 20:31 »

lets riot fox studios for that massive mistake  evil laugh
Im not being sarchastic, btw
Good Idea!! big grin
human horn

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« Reply #53 on: 11-13-2008 04:40 »

I think of Cubert as a Scott Evil figure.

One day, he'll want to take over the family business.

He already did, for a short time, in Route of All Evil.  Well, the Planet Express side, anyway.
Turanga Joe
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« Reply #54 on: 11-19-2008 20:09 »

So what if there were a couple of goofs in the film? It was really good. Now stop whining.
Frida Waterfall

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« Reply #55 on: 11-19-2008 21:49 »

It was really good. Now stop whining.

 no no
Kris
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« Reply #56 on: 12-07-2008 03:00 »

Hey, i used a binary converter and what is on the tatoo on fry that holds the time code converts to this:  1'
Scroto.the.Dwarf

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« Reply #57 on: 12-15-2008 06:45 »

there may have been more than one childrens ship anyway, zapp said he was forming a childrens BRIGADE!
x.Bianca.x

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« Reply #58 on: 12-15-2008 07:09 »

Hey, i used a binary converter and what is on the tatoo on fry that holds the time code converts to this:  1'

The very same sequence of Leela's apartment number, suss, or just very coincidental.
Frida Waterfall

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« Reply #59 on: 12-21-2008 05:10 »
« Last Edit on: 12-21-2008 05:21 »

As I was re-watching "Bender's Big Score" for about the one billionth time (all in disgust), it came to me that there *might* be a paradox several paradoxes as far as the cheese pizza and mirror goes (I don't quite remember the lectures I was given earlier in the year to clear my understanding with the paradox-free timetravel; maybe this will pose as a problem).

Cheese Pizza Paradox
When Fry goes back to the 2000's, there is a whole cheese pizza laying on the desk. When he comes back, it is still whole and then he grabs a slice, which subsequently breaks because the pizza is not longer fresh. When Fry goes back an hour from then, the pizza is still whole and he takes a slice. Why wasn't there a slice missing when he originally goes back in time?

Mirror Paradox
Fry brought a mirror back to the 2000's as it was required in order to read the code in the tattoo on his ass. When he arrives, he places it on the desk. When he comes back from Panucci's, the mirror is still there. He grabs the mirror there and uses it to go an hour back in time. When he goes back an hour, the mirror is still in hand and he places it on the desk. We later see that there is only one mirror sitting on the desk. Why isn't there multiple mirrors on the desk?
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« Reply #60 on: 12-24-2008 02:57 »

Hey, i used a binary converter and what is on the tatoo on fry that holds the time code converts to this:  1'

The very same sequence of Leela's apartment number, suss, or just very coincidental.

The code doesn't divide evenly by 8, but I remember wondering why they put one eye in the code... thought they would stick a more obvious joke in.
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« Reply #61 on: 12-24-2008 04:00 »

the "one eye" thing is a coincidence.  The code is:

001 100
010 010
011 110
100 001
101 101
110 011

The first column corresponds to the numbers 1-6, and the second column is the mirror image of those numbers in binary.  In the commentary, they say that the mirror image was there so that Fry would be able to read the code in a mirror without saying it backwards.
Frida Waterfall

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« Reply #62 on: 12-24-2008 05:30 »

I'm no mathamatician, but...

Here's the code with the symmetrical line to show where the number mirrors:

001 | 100
010 | 010
011 | 110
100 | 001
101 | 101
110 | 011


Here's the same code with the symmetrical line through it, now translated to basic numbers.

1 | 4
2 | 2
3 | 6
4 | 1
5 | 5
6 | 3


Now lets add them 'up to find that sum-thing...

1  |  4
2  |  2
3  |  6
4  |  1
5  |  5
6  |  3
21+21= 42!!!
Smarty

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« Reply #63 on: 12-24-2008 06:42 »

Now...what does 42 mean?
suss6052

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« Reply #64 on: 12-24-2008 06:49 »

Come on, you have never read The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy?

42 is only the answer to the most important question, of life, the universe, and everything, now if only we knew what the question actually was.
Smarty

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« Reply #65 on: 12-24-2008 06:51 »

Oh, all makes sense now.

And, I believe that I will get this book and read it. Seems interesting, good, and something I would like. smile
hobbitboy

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« Reply #66 on: 12-27-2008 13:55 »

Re: Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy.

In my opinion the original version (a series of radio broadcasts) was the 'best' and each subsequent format (Book, TV, Movie) seemed to lose a bit more of the 'magic'.

But considering that's also the order I encountered them in, I'm probably biased.

Don't hate me, Trinity.  I'm just the messenger.
km73

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« Reply #67 on: 12-28-2008 00:31 »

Well, of course you're biased... having never heard the radio broadcasts, to me the books will always be the best, since I stumbled across the paperbacks of the first couple completely accidentally in my high school library spring of my sophomore year.  Consumed all of them in about a week, I think..
(But I've never seen the movie or TV version, either).
Books

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« Reply #68 on: 12-28-2008 00:56 »

I haven't heard the radio shows, but I read the radio scripts, and they were quite good. I read the books first, and they'll always be the best. Contrary to many fans' opinions, I thought the movie was a good adaptation and really entertaining. After the movie I saw the BBC show on an ancient VHS tape, I thought it was okay, nothing great :/ The actress who played Trillian was atrocious.
km73

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« Reply #69 on: 12-28-2008 01:27 »

So you would say the movie was actually better than the BBC version?


I know I've heard conflicting things about the movie.
Books

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« Reply #70 on: 12-28-2008 01:43 »

The movie was definitely better than the BBC one. I can't comment on accuracy to the novel, the BBC probably does better on that. But the movie is just better made in every possible respect.
hobbitboy

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« Reply #71 on: 12-28-2008 08:53 »

Only if your definition of 'better' incorporates 'covers less of the story arc' (i.e. only the first book).

I quite liked the movie but for some reason I was a little disappointed by Marvin. I'm not really sure why, I think it's because he's not dead-pan enough or they haven't taken enough emotion out of his delivery. To me he comes across as disgruntled rather than depressed.

Don't hate me, Trinity.  I'm just the messenger.
bobbot

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« Reply #72 on: 01-08-2009 21:10 »

Well done little Frieda, care to have dinner at the Resturant at the End of the Universe?
Books

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« Reply #73 on: 01-08-2009 21:19 »

Hey bobbot. I remember you.
hansel

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« Reply #74 on: 01-09-2009 00:56 »

I have my towel ready.
bobbot

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« Reply #75 on: 01-09-2009 20:46 »

DON'T PANIC
DannyJC13

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« Reply #76 on: 01-09-2009 21:29 »

I noticed something that might be a little confusing....

When Fry 3 goes back in time to get the luke-warm pizza, he meets himself (Fry 2) and the other Fry (Fry 1) is still frozen in the cryogenic tube. (Ok, now remember, time paradoxes are always doomed.) Fry 2 goes away and becomes Lars then dies in the future. Then Fry 3 falls into the cryo tube with Fry 1, freezing for a 1000 years. Then, Fry 1 wakes up and goes living his new life in the 31st Century (Space Pilot 3000). Then Fry 3 freezes himself for another 7.95 years, then goes and meets the PE crew in the park. Now Fry 3 is a paradox, but he never dies for the rest of the movie. Plus, where was Fry 1 when Fry 3 came to the year 3007????

Also a less complicated error....

At the end of the movie, Bender goes back in time to put the code on Fry's ass, then when he comes back, he brings all the other Bender's that have been stealing stuff from all over time. When Bender was stealing stuff, he was under the scammer's control, with red pixels for pupils. But all the Bender's that come back with him have the normal black square pupils......
iceiwynd

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« Reply #77 on: 01-09-2009 21:32 »

Fry 1 becomes Fry 3. They're the same.
DannyJC13

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« Reply #78 on: 01-09-2009 21:35 »

So Fry 1 just disappears when Fry 3 goes to 3007????
suss6052

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« Reply #79 on: 01-09-2009 21:50 »

Yes, the Time paradox duplicate aka Lars is doomed because he chose not to use the time code for the pizza, Fry 1 is the one who used the time code to go back to the year 2000, in order to resolve the paradox of Fry 1=3 If he hadn't gone back in time there would have been no Lars. Fry 1 used the time code twice, once to go to the year 2000, and again a few minutes after that (spending an hour in the year 2000) in order to get the pizza, Lars is unique in that he chose not to use the time code the second time for the pizza, thus dooming himself to be a Time Paradox Duplicate. After using the time code a second time he remembered that frozen him had all sorts of "old timey" money in his wallet, he decided to reach for it, and in doing so slipped and fell into the chamber, December 31,2999 rolls around and the tube opens, Fry pushes his earlier self out of the chamber, and apparently after the 5 minutes with Leela in the chamber (as in the pilot, but we all know that based on the commentary they made liars out of themselves in the pilot as illustrated in the movies and later episodes) He set the chamber for the 7.95 Years, and then he walked up to his "funeral" just at the same time Lars conveniently decided to leave and miss the "All Time Paradox Duplicates" Are doomed speech from the professor, it just wouldn't have been the same if he had known that, realizing that the story that Bender had brutally murdered Fry was a sham, seeing as he had survived the inferno with little more than losing some hair and burning his Larynx, and realizing that he was Lars, and therefore he brought Michelle to the 31st century by highjacking her cryonic chamber to suit his own purpose, of waiting for the "wonderful day" when he'd meet Leela again.
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