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DotheBartman

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« Reply #160 on: 02-10-2004 16:50 »

Heh, I actually never noticed that (no Volume four commentary for me til whenever that comes out for region one).

I thought it was cool that both the first and last episode feature a reference to Donkey Kong though.
Atropine

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« Reply #161 on: 02-10-2004 19:29 »
« Last Edit on: 02-10-2004 19:29 »

 
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Originally posted by Mouse On Venus:
 You wouldn't be saying that had Ken Keeler not pointed it out in the commentary.    tongue
hmm, i must have been half asleep and picked it up and remembered it without knowing that i remembered it   red face    wink
Gorky

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« Reply #162 on: 02-10-2004 21:16 »

Say what?
John Pannozzi

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« Reply #163 on: 06-20-2004 13:24 »

I thought tD'sHaip was a decent ending, but it wasn't a great ending and it didn't give justice to the brillance of Futurama. It was funny, esp. the Godzilla gag and the final jab at Nixon, but it felt short and rushed. Futurama was a great show because it had so many great characters, not just Fry, Leela, Bender and Amy, but also minor characters like Tinny Tim and Morbo. In teh fianl ep., most of the characters do almost nothibg: Nibbler and good ol' Kif don't appear AT ALL, Prof. Farnsworth, Amy and Hermes only had a few lines, Bender, the show's breakout star, barely did anything. I'm glad that Fry and Leela are in love, but they were only one part of the Futurama universe. It's sad that Futurama seemed to be underusing it's supporting characters that made it great. I'm glad the ending was open, but it left many plotlines and plotholes unresolved (Kif and Zapp, Kif and Amy, Fry and Bender, Hermes and Zoidberg, The Prof. and Cubert, the planet at the end of a PtR that looked like Earth but wasn't, Seymour Asses, Leela the other, and many more). Here's to hoping that they make Futurama movies that resolve the loose plot threads, and give  poor rich Amy a bigger role.
EvilLunch

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« Reply #164 on: 06-20-2004 14:51 »

I thought it was a lovely ending.. And I wouldn't change a thing. [Hell, it set up my fanfic perfectly.  big grin]
Teral

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« Reply #165 on: 06-20-2004 17:13 »

 
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Originally posted by John Pannozzi:
Bender, the show's breakout star, barely did anything. I'm glad that Fry and Leela are in love, but they were only one part of the Futurama universe.

True, but we already had 3 Benderific episodes, plus two that was more or less centered around Bender, in the 4ACV production. Compare that with one major Fry/Leela episode, plus 4 or 5 passing mentions.

 
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Kif and Zapp Fry and Bender Hermes and Zoidberg

Nothing changes, that's the brilliance of these "relationships".

 
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the planet at the end of a PtR that looked like Earth but wasn't

It's a throw-away gag, don't put too much in it.

 
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Seymour Asses

Either a door stop or a paper weight in Fry's apartment.

 
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Leela the other

Agreed, that would've been nice to she resolved.

Don't confuse not caring with not knowing!
tom123

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« Reply #166 on: 06-20-2004 18:37 »

I don't think it was a very good finale. It had its plusses but I think it could have been better. Like the relationship between Leela and Fry. What happens next? I think that even just one more episode to resolve this would be better.
Bones

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« Reply #167 on: 06-20-2004 20:31 »

i think it was good because it could be an end but doesnt tie everything up so they can make more, or atleast it can live on in your mind. remember they wern't certasin it was going to be the final epsiode when they wrote it.
EvilLunch

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« Reply #168 on: 06-20-2004 22:27 »
« Last Edit on: 06-20-2004 22:27 »

[Bones, I love your avy. EDIT: And when it's above mine it's hilarious-er!]
There's nothing worse than an ending that ties up EVERY SINGLE LITTLE DETAIL. It's a dignified, optimistic ending, I think.. And I think the Futurama series was just a slice of the story of that universe. It isn't supposed to be all-encompassing epic.. Just one chapter of many, the rest of which are up to you!
TheLampIncident

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« Reply #169 on: 06-20-2004 22:36 »

[Comic Book Guy]Worst episode ever.[/Comic Book Guy]

Bender and Fry HUG each other. BZZT! Bad move! They also both get into hell unopposed. How? Why would you want to? Fry gets jealous of Leela again...give it up buddy. The Robot Devil begs an ordinary human for mercy! He's the DEVIL! The devil has the power to torture! He could have just tortured Fry until he got his hands back! Bender feels sorry for deafening Leela? No, that's not happening. I hate singing. And what the hell was that Hedonism Bot thing. That thing wasn't funny at all. It was just annoying. And with how bitchy Leela was toward a Fry romance in past episodes, do you think some poorly played holophonor crap is going to impress her? Hell no. She's just going to be the same superficial numbskull as always. And with how bitter and hateful I am, romance is always a negative, especially when someone begs for it. I hate when people beg. Like those assholes who beg for money. Ugh...
EvilLunch

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« Reply #170 on: 06-20-2004 22:38 »

"Issues much?" -Kryten
David A

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« Reply #171 on: 06-20-2004 23:40 »

 
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Originally posted by EvilLunch:
[Bones, I love your avy. EDIT: And when it's above mine it's hilarious-er!]

[Enos]Well, golly.  If she's not careful, she's gonna suck his face right off of his head.[/Enos]
Logan Fils

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« Reply #172 on: 06-21-2004 01:12 »
« Last Edit on: 01-09-2005 00:00 »

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VoVat

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« Reply #173 on: 06-21-2004 20:06 »

 
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The Robot Devil begs an ordinary human for mercy! He's the DEVIL!

1. That's part of the joke.
2. He's the ROBOT Devil.  Fry's not a robot.
3. He ends up winning out in the end.
SlackJawedMoron

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« Reply #174 on: 06-25-2004 10:19 »

I liked it. I liked it as a season finale, and as an ep (though it would've lacked the  emotional puch it had, if it weren't the last, as I said somewhere else...)
I also thought it was funny, particularly Hedonism-bot and good 'ole Robot Devil, and I found Zoidbergs hurled insult marvelous...
[DXC]Not a few tears shed were shed[/DXC]  tongue
I'm a big fan of the characters randomly bursting into song, so this rated pretty high for me (the song was quite amusing to). And that last piece of music was perfect.
So, yeah. As a finale, it was just fine.
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It doesn't stop me wanting more, though.  tongue
Zeep

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« Reply #175 on: 06-25-2004 18:35 »

 
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The Robot Devil begs an ordinary human for mercy! He's the DEVIL!
He signed a LEGAL DOCUMENT with fry. it's not like he can just take them back. and who's to say that there are laws against torture? as VoVat said, the ROBOT devil doesn't govern over humans.

 
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Bender feels sorry for deafening Leela? No, that's not happening.
he's known leela for what, about 4 years now? it doesn't matter how cold-hearted you are, you would not want to do something like that to someone you've worked with and practically lived with for that long.

 
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I hate singing.
so you're weird. not our problem, not futurama's problem.
DrJohnZ

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« Reply #176 on: 06-25-2004 22:06 »

I liked the eppisode, but I dont feel it should have ended the whole show, they were in an opera house, and every left Fry (except Leela).
I liked though how it ended as "I wanna hear how it ends" and it shows Leela and Fry finaly getting together, but I wanted to see what would happen after that... as I'm sure everyone here wanted too  smile
Evil Abe

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« Reply #177 on: 06-26-2004 01:04 »

I thought it was a good an episode.  Yes, there are some lose ends especially Leela as the other.  But it was rushed, always remember this Fox's timetable not writers so they had give use (the viewers) an episode that wrapped it up but at the same time open ended enough for when Futurama returns.  Remember Star Trek was canceled was in 1969 and returned in force in 1979.
DrJohnZ

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« Reply #178 on: 06-26-2004 19:30 »

 
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Originally posted by Evil Abe:
an episode that wrapped it up but at the same time open ended enough for when Futurama returns. Remember Star Trek was canceled was in 1969 and returned in force in 1979.

Here's to hope!   smile
Rhodan

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« Reply #179 on: 06-27-2004 12:12 »
« Last Edit on: 06-27-2004 12:12 »

 
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Originally posted by Evil Abe:
Remember Star Trek was canceled was in 1969 and returned in force in 1979.
Iīam definitely great Futuramaīs fan but compare itīs overall popularity (and so chance to new life) with original Star Trek is TOO "brave". 
Evil Abe

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« Reply #180 on: 06-28-2004 02:51 »
« Last Edit on: 06-28-2004 02:51 »

Remember what Fry said about Hope "You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You gotta hope even more, and cover your ears and go 'bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla!'".
Also Star Trek at the time was thought to be some dumb kids show when it was cancelled in 1969.  Not the force we think of today. 
Rhodan

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« Reply #181 on: 06-28-2004 07:07 »

Iīve never said nothing aginst that but original ST had much , much bigger fanbase than Futurama.
Prince

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« Reply #182 on: 06-28-2004 11:28 »

 
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Originally posted by DrJohnZ:
 Here's to hope!    smile

Second.
I think that it was a great last episode. I think that part of the magic of it was that they left it so open, it was a good choice as there is nothing more powerful than one's own imagination. It allowed the viewer to end it in his own way and decide for himself what other adventures the Planet Express Crew would experience!! I think that unless done very well any comeback could ruin the specialty of it, remember the main theme of the show was Fry always trying to win over Leela, if they are now together i think there is some danger of possible writing complacency and less inventive and hilarious storylines.
The appearences of as many characters as possible, as well a lots of fanatastic singing was the cherry on the cake for me   smile

hahahaha lightweights!!.... oh wait Chlorine!! *rusts and falls to ground*
Rhodan

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« Reply #183 on: 06-28-2004 11:51 »
« Last Edit on: 06-29-2004 00:00 »

   
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Originally posted by Prince:
 remember the main theme of the show was Fry always trying to win over Leela

I know itīs the thing what creators themselves said but I didnīt see that so dominating.
CrazyBluLobster

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« Reply #184 on: 06-30-2004 07:50 »

I dont really care if the series was wrapped up by The Devil's Hands Are Idle Playthings, because I dont watch futurama to see if fry and leela hook up and all that sort of stuff. I watch it for the comedy, i love the variety of jokes that appear throughout the episodes. to me The Devil's Hands Are Idle Playthings is just another episode that has its moments... i would however love for the series to be resurrected or for there to be a movie made
CWD

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« Reply #185 on: 07-01-2004 01:18 »

Hey all, first post here.

Anyway, I think TDHAIP made a pretty darn good finale.  I actually didn't know it was the finale when I first saw it, but I felt it was a strong episode in its own right, and the opera was hilarious.

"...where Styx is a river and not just a band, though they'll play at our reception if all goes as planned."

That line cracks me up.

leelaholic

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« Reply #186 on: 07-02-2004 19:16 »

 
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Originally posted by TheLampIncident:
[Comic Book Guy]Worst episode ever.[/Comic Book Guy]

Bender and Fry HUG each other. BZZT! Bad move! They also both get into hell unopposed. How? Why would you want to? Fry gets jealous of Leela again...give it up buddy. The Robot Devil begs an ordinary human for mercy! He's the DEVIL! The devil has the power to torture! He could have just tortured Fry until he got his hands back! Bender feels sorry for deafening Leela? No, that's not happening. I hate singing. And what the hell was that Hedonism Bot thing. That thing wasn't funny at all. It was just annoying. And with how bitchy Leela was toward a Fry romance in past episodes, do you think some poorly played holophonor crap is going to impress her? Hell no. She's just going to be the same superficial numbskull as always. And with how bitter and hateful I am, romance is always a negative, especially when someone begs for it. I hate when people beg. Like those assholes who beg for money. Ugh...
Sounds to me like you barely remember the episode at all. When I saw it the first time, I really wasn't impressed. Since then, I have changed my opinion.

Most of your review doesn't even make sence. Why shouldn't Bender feel bad that he deafened a friend? Why should Fry give up on Leela? How was there any begging? How has Leela ever been "bitchy", "superficial", or a "numbskull"? Fry and Bender have hugged before. Remember "The Deep South"?

Sounds like you need to rewatch it.
Crash_7

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« Reply #187 on: 07-02-2004 21:34 »

I've never seen her bitchy or numbskull(ly), but I've seen superficial out of her a couple of times.  Not in "The Devil's Hands", but "The Cyber House Rules" and "Parasites Lost" immediately come to mind.
jan_18_1981

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« Reply #188 on: 03-12-2005 17:24 »
« Last Edit on: 03-12-2005 17:24 »

Just like Married with...Children.....Futurama got a crappy final episode....I mean it was alright but Leela was somewhat out of character....her singing wasnt at its best...I would of liked to seen more of Leela and Fry getting together.....like getting hitched or something....instead of walking hand in hand together into the sunset in the hornophone(opps my spellings bad..sorry). I just thought for a finale it should of been spectacular. It was an
ok episode...I just thought it couldve been better.
I guess....I cant explain it....I just wasnt too crazy for the last episode....I wanted more...I guess I should say...go into more details on what will happen to the Characters....but comparing to another old fave show of mine that starred Katey Sagal....Married with...Children....Futuramas finale was alot better than married....which was another show Fox abruptly cancelled for no reason...but atleast that show was on for a decade. I miss Futurama and was sad to see it go. But atleast it left the show open for a possible comeback....although rather doubtful....and yeah I guess it does end with you the viewer using your imagination....a clever move by the writers...I guess I am a glutton...that just wanted more...cant fault me for loving the show. Beer killed my imagination brain cells...so I guess a tad lazy to use it...or stupid one of the two....probably both,lol.  laff
i_c_weiner

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« Reply #189 on: 03-12-2005 17:38 »

See, Married...With Children was canceled without notice and there was never a chance for a finale. This was about 8 years after it started, so it wasn't so abruptly, with the ratings not as high as they were. But yes, it was abruptly, considering they never got the chance for a finale.
Futurama, on the other hand, had the prior knowledge of cancelation and made TDHAIP for a series finale and a cliffhanger in the chance of a renewal.
jan_18_1981

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« Reply #190 on: 03-12-2005 17:54 »

Well,I didnt know...I didnt see the final episode til it aired one time on Adult Swim...and I didnt realize at the time that was their final episode....thanks to Fox 43 in Bloomington,Illinois....they probably never aired it anyway...or if they did it was at a screwed up hour. It was rarely on here...but Futurama had a better last episode....they had more time...I just wish it dint have to end the way it did....atleast they left it open for a possible comeback....or atleast left you to imagine what happens next instead of  depending on the boob tube. Oh well,Ill drink to Futuramas memory tonight when I go partying over in Peoria.
Cheers to great shows that once were....and to the episodes we have left in their memory.
ShortRoundMcfly

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« Reply #191 on: 03-12-2005 21:30 »

For those of you who say the "The other" comment is a loose end I think you're folly. It's obvious from the context that "the other" is the one who would give Fry the incentive to save universe. After Fry mentioned it was for her that he saved the universe, nibbler said "Ah, she must be the other."

If someone said, "that man just jumped into that burning building to save someone" and someone else replied, "he must be a firefighter", wouldn't that make you draw the conclusion that a firefighter is one who saves people in burning buildings?
Eyedol7513

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« Reply #192 on: 03-12-2005 21:51 »

jan_18_1981: What's the purpose of your name? (It's probably your birthday, but I just want to make sure.) Also, why do you use too much of those [...] things in your posts?
Jicannon

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« Reply #193 on: 03-12-2005 22:11 »

Ellipses. And I use them all the time for pauses.
ShortRoundMcfly

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« Reply #194 on: 03-12-2005 22:12 »

It's his birthday. He uses them to turn entire paragraphs into run-on sentences.
Eyedol7513

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« Reply #195 on: 03-12-2005 22:14 »

^That's what they're called. I knew it started with an 'E'. And I know you use them for pauses, but he uses them too much. And it hurts my eyes, and disrupts the reading.

For example, I'll use those ellipses for my same message above, below.

That's what they're called.... I knew it started with an 'E'.... And I know you use them for pauses.... but he uses them too much.... And it hurts my eyes.... and disrupts the reading.....
Jicannon

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« Reply #196 on: 03-12-2005 22:18 »

 
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 He uses them to turn entire paragraphs into run-on sentences.
Copy cat....I've been doing that ever since I joined.
i_c_weiner

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« Reply #197 on: 03-12-2005 23:23 »

@Eyedol- That does hurt your eyes and disrupts the reading.

@Jicannon- Evil copycats. Copying the experienced folk.

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« Reply #198 on: 03-13-2005 02:28 »

 
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Originally posted by Eyedol7513:
^That's what they're called. I knew it started with an 'E'. And I know you use them for pauses, but he uses them too much. And it hurts my eyes, and disrupts the reading.

For example, I'll use those ellipses for my same message above, below.

That's what they're called.... I knew it started with an 'E'.... And I know you use them for pauses.... but he uses them too much.... And it hurts my eyes.... and disrupts the reading.....

Thats my secret defense weapon.
Old Skool Prop

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« Reply #199 on: 03-13-2005 02:37 »

Yeah I think it was a good way to leave it!
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