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CyberKnight
Urban Legend
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Originally posted by PCC Fred: All those who are bitching about "The Devil's Hands...", watch the final episode of Sliders. There's a great example of how to make a final episode fail on every conceivable level. Or "Endgame". *shudder*. And I honestly didn't think her singing was that bad.
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The Master Con
Crustacean
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Originally posted by CyberKnight: Or "Endgame".
*shudder*.
And I honestly didn't think her singing was that bad.
You mean Endgame from Reboot?
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Teral
Helpy McHelphelp
DOOP Secretary
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« Reply #46 on: 10-12-2003 19:40 »
« Last Edit on: 10-12-2003 19:40 »
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"Endgame" from Star Trek: Voyager. Originally posted by Frymeister: ok fine, but it was a little bad, you have to admit, right? [Koenig]No.[/Koenig]
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Teral
Helpy McHelphelp
DOOP Secretary
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What is it you find so horrible about it? I find it pretty good. Certainly better than West and most of theo others. Originally posted by ratm9200: im with teral, there was nothing wrong with her singing
by the way: whats [takei] That was me making an embarassing mistake. It should've been [Keonig][/Koenig] (and now rightfully is ). After Walter Koenig who played Pavel Chekov on Star Trek. The idea is the "no" is pronounced the same way Koenig said "no" when Fry asked him to say "nuclear vessels" on "Where No Fan Has Gone Before".
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DotheBartman
Liquid Emperor
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I thought it was a very appropriate finale. It stands on its own as a very creative and hilarious episode, and the ending works as something that is touching and provides some closure, but at the same time doesn't go too far (having them get together or even not get together would be too much) and just lets you write the ending in your mind. I always like endings like that, as long as they aren't TOO ambiguous (here they give you something to work with in terms of inventing your own continuation).
Oh, and can someone tell me what made it "out of character" anyway? Maybe Bender wasn't as crass as in some episodes (his most crass side wouldn't work in the context of this episode though, admit it), but everyone else seemed fine.
Regarding Why of Fry, I dunno..."Devil's Hands" isn't even my fave episode anyway (18 or 19th on the list I'd say), but Why of Fry could've been better. Don't get me wrong, it was enjoyable, but while the story was very cool, the humor wasn't nearly as good.
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Asylum-Fry
Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #58 on: 10-12-2003 22:50 »
« Last Edit on: 10-12-2003 22:50 »
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Originally posted by SuperFry: [everybody]NO she sounded great[/everybody] She hit these unbearably high notes that were off-key. If she'd just hit one or two notes higher than the line before, like I was expecting, it would have sounded all right. And in response to whoever said Billy West couldn't sing well (or whatever) - he was the best singer out of all of them, in my opinion! I thought he really did a wonderful job as Fry in the opera. Lastly, out-of-character stuff... if Leela didn't accept Fry before, why would an opera about her suddenly change her mind? Fry was still the same stupid Fry he always was! Unless Leela wanted to be a spoiled brat and toy with Fry in order to get the opera made about her and then dump him later (wait a sec, they never even went out? Fry, you dope!). We all know Bender wasn't up to his standards, and Fry was behaving oddly as well (just noticably). We barely saw any of the rest of the characters, so I can't say how off they were. Go ahead and argue with me. I love a challenge. EDIT: I find the 'off-key singing' topic worthy of a discussion thread in the Human Resources forum... any objections?
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Asylum-Fry
Liquid Emperor
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Originally posted by John C: If someone wrote an opera for you, wouldn't you go out with them? *impression of the guy in the Luna Park line* Eeeeuum, uhhhhm, NO! I don't like operas, and I'd rather that my life be kept personal. Who wants their story being played out by weird people in crappy costumes (I found those big head masks rather low-budget looking), even if it's not even your life story at all? Now, I'd go out with Fry well before he decides to impress me that far. He's too good for Leela, I'll take him instead
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Robiben
Starship Captain
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Originally posted by Asylum-Fry: Still, I'm never going to feel love or recieve it my whole life, so I'll never get the real experience. I think thats a bit of a harsh comment to say about yourself. To say you'll never feel or recieve love is like saying you never take a breath. Everyone at one point in their life will feel love. Be it from family, friends or a partner. Its an insainly strong human emotion that cant really be taken away from you. Now im no poet. I cant discribe in a million words what love is. All i know is its strong and when someone tries to take it away from you it hurts. Real bad. But being in love is good. Real good. Thats what is awsome about the romantic quality of Futurama. The love story between Leela and Fry is something that makes me tingle all over. its very hard for me to explain so i really just go with the flow. Thats why the last episode was so good. Because you finally saw Fry and Leela embrace their love. And in, my mind at least, that is why Devils Hands was probably the best final episode i have ever seen. Anyway thats my rant. Hope i didnt bore you all.
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