Thoughts on 6ACV26 - Reincarnation - SPOILERS!

[Reply #200 on:]

Buddy, thanks a lot! It's good to take pleasure out of such simple things. Once you make a GIF of Fry and Bender dancing, I think I will try to see if I could get a T-shirt made out of it.

You can't animate a T-shirt ;-)

[Reply #201 on:]

This ep has been well received on Twitter, some people saying it was the 'best' and 'funniest' episode ever.

[Reply #202 on:]

I'm not sure you understood the satirical point of that scene.

Can you explain it for me? Cuz I really don't get it. Are they trying to point out the hypocrisy of censorship or something? Cuz that could've been done without the whole sex-at-gunpoint thing. It almost seemed rapey, and that's not funny to me.

Specifically, sex and violence that's based in "biblical" origins tends to get a "pass" even when it's as bad or worse than anything else that normally has to be censored; witness for instance the lack of censoring of "The Passion of the Christ," and the universal praise it received from right-wing Christian groups, while at that same time those same groups were all fighting to crack down on violence and sexuality in television following the Janet Jackson Super Bowl incident. The Chris Elliot death sphere spends the whole episode censoring things it doesn't like, but then shows total hypocrisy when it comes to something it views as a biblical moment.

[Reply #203 on:]

Buddy, thanks a lot! It's good to take pleasure out of such simple things. Once you make a GIF of Fry and Bender dancing, I think I will try to see if I could get a T-shirt made out of it.

You can't animate a T-shirt ;-)

You can, but the graphics are very basic, the t shirts are obscenely expensive and you cant stick them in the washing machine. 

As for actually animating the t shirt, theres always stop motion. 

[Reply #204 on:]

I'm not sure you understood the satirical point of that scene.

Can you explain it for me? Cuz I really don't get it. Are they trying to point out the hypocrisy of censorship or something? Cuz that could've been done without the whole sex-at-gunpoint thing. It almost seemed rapey, and that's not funny to me.

Specifically, sex and violence that's based in "biblical" origins tends to get a "pass" even when it's as bad or worse than anything else that normally has to be censored; witness for instance the lack of censoring of "The Passion of the Christ," and the universal praise it received from right-wing Christian groups, while at that same time those same groups were all fighting to crack down on violence and sexuality in television following the Janet Jackson Super Bowl incident. The Chris Elliot death sphere spends the whole episode censoring things it doesn't like, but then shows total hypocrisy when it comes to something it views as a biblical moment.

Ah, I think I get it now.

But I agree that the Janet Jackson thing was an atrocity. I mean, her nipple was gross. if only it had been someone actually attractive.

[Reply #205 on:]

Unfortunately, I don't think that was what they complained about.

[Reply #206 on:]

best episode of the production season, it was just like BBBS again
loved the old school part best, video game references are great and OBL and DDR finished it off - well played Futurama, one good game a season is all my sports team can manage and I still keep following them

[Reply #207 on:]

How about Lady Gaga's secondary sexual organs?   Guess the gender!

[Reply #208 on:]

How about Lady Gaga's secondary sexual organs?   Guess the gender!

Am I the only one who finds her to be a more convincing man than a woman?

Anyhoo </offtopic>

[Reply #209 on:]

How about Lady Gaga's secondary sexual organs?   Guess the gender!

Am I the only one who finds her to be a more convincing man than a woman?

Anyhoo </offtopic>

Agreed.  She has very sharp, dramatic features, and the way she thickly applies make up to those features certainly make her look like a very convincing (but not quite there) drag queen.   The fact that she dresses like a clown exploded over an oiran doing acid just ties the illusion together.

Compare: http://www.thehipstermom.com/wp-content/uploads/lady-gaga-435.jpg

with
http://www.bravoparties.com/dancers/drag-queen-blond.jpg   
http://thebplot.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/rupaul_blackpink_final.jpg

[Reply #210 on:]

You mean other than the commentary?

I was going by my memory of the commentary.

Incidentally, that's also why Michael J. Fox uses his middle initial; there was already an actor named "Michael Fox". (He appears in Young Frankenstein, for instance.)

I'm not sure you understood the satirical point of that scene.

Can you explain it for me? Cuz I really don't get it. Are they trying to point out the hypocrisy of censorship or something? Cuz that could've been done without the whole sex-at-gunpoint thing. It almost seemed rapey, and that's not funny to me.

Specifically, sex and violence that's based in "biblical" origins tends to get a "pass" even when it's as bad or worse than anything else that normally has to be censored; witness for instance the lack of censoring of "The Passion of the Christ," and the universal praise it received from right-wing Christian groups, while at that same time those same groups were all fighting to crack down on violence and sexuality in television following the Janet Jackson Super Bowl incident. The Chris Elliot death sphere spends the whole episode censoring things it doesn't like, but then shows total hypocrisy when it comes to something it views as a biblical moment.

Isn't that the RR's philosophy? "If I don't want to watch/hear it, no one else should be able to as well"?

[Reply #211 on:]

I'm rewatching the episode right now and while it's still on my mind: I love the animation of Fry on the Dimondium comet, reminds me of Who Framed Roger Rabbit or something like that.

[Reply #212 on:]

On the topic of the Professor--he never seems to be moving the same way as everyone else, he seems pretty still. I doubt that was intentional, but for some reason, it made me laugh. Overall, it was really true to that era of animation, but it wasn't the funniest of the three segments.

Watch carefully--it appears that the Professor IS bouncing like the other characters, but much much slower. Because he's old and slow. There are so many great, subtle touches in this episode. The animators all deserve high fives and Emmy's.

Writers, too. This episode was hilarious! One of the funniest ever, in my opinion. I didn't have high hopes for this episode, but shman. It blew me away.

The 8-bit segment is the least awesome one, but it still had some great stuff. I can't believe nobody seems to be giving the Punch-Out gag some love. "Body blow!" Probably my favorite bit. Nice semi-obscure reference.

Speaking of--hey guy who is doing awesome gifs! Make one based on that gag. I said dooooo it!

[Reply #213 on:]

That first picture totally makes Gaga look like a man. I think it's mostly in the jawline. The eyebrows don't help.

I'll have to rewatch, I also thought the Professor wasn't moving at all. Either way, it fits his character.

[Reply #214 on:]

How about Lady Gaga's secondary sexual organs?   Guess the gender!

Am I the only one who finds her to be a more convincing man than a woman?

Anyhoo </offtopic>

Agreed.  She has very sharp, dramatic features, and the way she thickly applies make up to those features certainly make her look like a very convincing (but not quite there) drag queen.   The fact that she dresses like a clown exploded over an oiran doing acid just ties the illusion together.

Compare: http://www.thehipstermom.com/wp-content/uploads/lady-gaga-435.jpg

with
http://www.bravoparties.com/dancers/drag-queen-blond.jpg   
http://thebplot.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/rupaul_blackpink_final.jpg

Funny, very Offtopic story, when I was 15 or thereabouts and just got the internet I think I chatted with RuPaul on AOL. I didn't know who he was at the time and I have no idea what we talked about.

[Reply #215 on:]

This ep has been well received on Twitter, some people saying it was the 'best' and 'funniest' episode ever.

I think I was too harsh when I rated this 8/10, should've been a 9/10 ...

[Reply #216 on:]

I think I was too harsh giving it 9/10.

[Reply #217 on:]

So I think these guys are saying it gets better on re-watch. Perhaps our expectations doom things sometimes. Maybe we should be forced to watch it thrice before voting. Or sequester ourselves from public opinion somehow.

[Reply #218 on:]

I thought this one was amazing on first view, but okay. It does get even better with a rewatch. There are so many more details to notice.

[Reply #219 on:]

I have been noticing that on second or third viewing, it is always better. There are so many details that they put in there that you miss, and jokes and plot lines seem to sit better. Also, you get used to the pacing. For me, there were some episodes that seemed to move to fast. However, on second viewing, it didn't seem as much as an issue.

[Reply #220 on:]

By "it" do you mean this ep, or Season 6, or 6B, or the whole series? I kind of feel like Futurama in general has always had a really high rewatchability factor. They are quite good at cramming in little details.

[Reply #221 on:]

How about Lady Gaga's secondary sexual organs?   Guess the gender!

Am I the only one who finds her to be a more convincing man than a woman?

Anyhoo </offtopic>

Agreed.  She has very sharp, dramatic features, and the way she thickly applies make up to those features certainly make her look like a very convincing (but not quite there) drag queen.   The fact that she dresses like a clown exploded over an oiran doing acid just ties the illusion together.

Compare: http://www.thehipstermom.com/wp-content/uploads/lady-gaga-435.jpg

with
http://www.bravoparties.com/dancers/drag-queen-blond.jpg   
http://thebplot.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/rupaul_blackpink_final.jpg

Funny, very Offtopic story, when I was 15 or thereabouts and just got the internet I think I chatted with RuPaul on AOL. I didn't know who he was at the time and I have no idea what we talked about.

Or maybe someone pretending to be RuPaul. (I can't think of anyone who would want to do this, though.)

[Reply #222 on:]

the re playability of futurama is it's strongest quality, in my opinion. i was discussing this with a friend of mine, and we realized that the reason we really dig the old episodes is because we are comfortable with them, because we watched them a gazillion times. the more we watch the new ones, the more they become part of the futurama universe that we love.

sure, season 6A and B had some low points, but they are still right there in the futurama universe that i love. going forward, you can be sure that i'll be watching these newer episodes with just as much frequency as i do the older ones.

[Reply #223 on:]

the re playability of futurama is it's strongest quality, in my opinion. i was discussing this with a friend of mine, and we realized that the reason we really dig the old episodes is because we are comfortable with them, because we watched them a gazillion times. the more we watch the new ones, the more they become part of the futurama universe that we love.

sure, season 6A and B had some low points, but they are still right there in the futurama universe that i love. going forward, you can be sure that i'll be watching these newer episodes with just as much frequency as i do the older ones.

This is exactly right. At the time the movies came out, they didn't feel like they were in sync with the original seasons, but now after it's aged a few years, they do feel a part, and even rewatching the first half of the season 6, they are starting to get that way too.

As for this episode, I absolutely loved it, the second part was my favorite as I hav a soft spot for sprites. I hope at some point they release the sprites they did of the Planet Express crew on the net. One of the best episodes that they've done in a long time, I really loved it.

[Reply #224 on:]

It's good to see nobody complaining about new Futurama anymore.

[Reply #225 on:]

How about Lady Gaga's secondary sexual organs?   Guess the gender!

Am I the only one who finds her to be a more convincing man than a woman?

Anyhoo </offtopic>

Agreed.  She has very sharp, dramatic features, and the way she thickly applies make up to those features certainly make her look like a very convincing (but not quite there) drag queen.   The fact that she dresses like a clown exploded over an oiran doing acid just ties the illusion together.

Compare: http://www.thehipstermom.com/wp-content/uploads/lady-gaga-435.jpg

with
http://www.bravoparties.com/dancers/drag-queen-blond.jpg   
http://thebplot.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/rupaul_blackpink_final.jpg

Funny, very Offtopic story, when I was 15 or thereabouts and just got the internet I think I chatted with RuPaul on AOL. I didn't know who he was at the time and I have no idea what we talked about.

Or maybe someone pretending to be RuPaul. (I can't think of anyone who would want to do this, though.)

Haha, I thought of that. I think the screen name was literally RuPaul because it was one of those oldskool AOL chatrooms where you discuss politics or religion or shoes...

And I agree with the sentiment that the episodes get better on reviewing, althought I gave this one a 10 right away for the amount of sheer happiness I got watching it.

[Reply #226 on:]

And I agree with the sentiment that the episodes get better on reviewing, althought I gave this one a 10 right away for the amount of sheer happiness I got watching it.

Truth. Very much truth.

Same to you, flesheatingbull. Season 6A meshes quite well with the original run as far as my opinion goes. I bet this time next year, Season 6B will have carved out its own little niche in the universe.

[Reply #227 on:]

Loved the episode. This was the one I was looking forward to all week long. You had to realize it was a parody of all those animation styles and it was well done

[Reply #228 on:]

You had to realize it was a parody of all those animation styles

OH!! Now I get it. I thought they'd just run out of money for animation.

[Reply #229 on:]

I thought they'd just all forgotten how to draw Groening-style.

[Reply #230 on:]

The crude animation is probably closer to Groening's true style (Simpsons in the Tracy Ullman era) than the show normally is.

[Reply #231 on:]

The crude animation is probably closer to Groening's true style (Simpsons in the Tracy Ullman era) than the show normally is.

makes me think. early simpsons-era animation would be great in a sequel to Reincarnation.

[Reply #232 on:]

If Leela is the purple headed Goyle and Zoidberg is the medical Crabbe then who would be the Malfoy of the group?

[Reply #233 on:]

You had to realize it was a parody of all those animation styles and it was well done

Captain Obvious has arrived.

A possible animation style for if they did another Reincarnation, old style Simpsons:

[Reply #234 on:]

The crude animation is probably closer to Groening's true style (Simpsons in the Tracy Ullman era) than the show normally is.

makes me think. early simpsons-era animation would be great in a sequel to Reincarnation.

You had to realize it was a parody of all those animation styles and it was well done

Captain Obvious has arrived.

A possible animation style for if they did another Reincarnation, old style Simpsons:

[Reply #235 on:]

Well you can't expect everyone to read through all 6 pages... Especially with the length of some posts.

[Reply #236 on:]

Yum...

Classic meatloaf..

[Reply #237 on:]

Personally my opinion is that claymation would be great; I think I read they even considered it. I suspect that time/budget restrictions prevented them which is a shame, not that the episodes quality suffered at all. If they were to do another one though, then claymation would be at the top of my list. They could get Aardman to do the actual animation, now wouldn't that be clool? ...

[Reply #238 on:]

Well you can't expect everyone to read through all 6 pages...

And yet not only do most people expect it, most people do it.

[Reply #239 on:]

Well you can't expect everyone to read through all 6 pages... Especially with the length of some posts.

You can expect people to read two posts before the one they make though, right?