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Nutmeg1729

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« Reply #400 on: 05-07-2010 22:34 »

Damn, robot Leela is kinda creepy, Ahaha.

I haven't been keeping up with this thread, I probably should have, since I have no idea what you've all been speculating. But, alas, Tl;Dr.

I somehow don't see them all being robots for a while, but rather the professor building replacement crew members to work with fry, while he works on getting the others bodies back.

Still creepy though.
MightyBooshFan91

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« Reply #401 on: 05-07-2010 22:38 »

Less than 7 weeks of speculation left but CC are sure doing their best to make it interesting...why would there be a robot Leela? Dream sequence? Alternative universe?will the rest of the crew be robots for a while?
Tedward

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« Reply #402 on: 05-07-2010 23:05 »

Robot Leela? Oh dear, this is an interesting development...

Damn, robot Leela is kinda creepy, Ahaha.

I concur.

I somehow don't see them all being robots for a while, but rather the professor building replacement crew members to work with fry, while he works on getting the others bodies back.

Ah, kind of like "Helper" then?
i_c_weiner

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« Reply #403 on: 05-07-2010 23:36 »

Robot Leela looks like the weird octopus flying machine things from The Matrix.
FistfulOAwesome

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« Reply #404 on: 05-07-2010 23:37 »

Huh? The forthcoming link is the shortest way to express my thoughts at the Leela-bot drawing: http://bulk2.destructoid.com/ul/121181-wtf_picard-468x.jpg

Putting on my speculation hat, I see this as a possible correct guess by El-Man from earlier in the thread. He guessed that somehow the Rebirthing machine would malfunction before restoring Leela. This seems likely to me for several reasons. They are:

* The robot being part of Act III when the Rebirthing Machine is present in Act 1. Considering The Rebirthing Machine looks finished in yesterday's drawing, it seems unlikely to me that The Professor has any reason to wait to use it (what else would he and Fry do in Act 2 if it isn't using the machine or dealing with the effects of its use?).

* That the writers (who I assume have say in what gets shown on CCInsider) let us see a Leela-Bot over any other crew-bot. This suggests to me that none of the others had any problem being revived by the machine, thus robot replacements weren't needed.

* That Leela's head isn't the head of the Robot body. It's completely mechanical. What its purpose is I don't know but I doubt it's to house Leela's brain or memories or whatever you want to call the essence of who she is. If they needed that why not use her head? Something must have happened to her.

Whatever this means, it's certainly has me more interested for the episode. Not so much because I think it's going to be good (if anything, this worries me), but more because I have to know what makes this episode so good. That sneak peak that a few people were privy to a few months ago reported that reactions were positive. What did that audience see that was so good? How does this episode end up being the "perfect return to Futurama, The Series!"?

As a final note, I have a question to ask Svip. Do you know the average number of scenes in a Futurama episode? I'd like to know since it might help pinpoint when this robot is introduced (says it is scene 278, occurring during the third act).
El-Man

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« Reply #405 on: 05-07-2010 23:59 »

If they needed that why not use her head? Something must have happened to her.

Maybe the heads expire after a set amount of time, and with the malfunction, the Prof has to put her brain in something - more dramatic than a simple glass jar, like what happened to Hermes in BBS (even though it would make more sense). So Leela wakes up in a robot body, and we get the soul-searching from both her and Fry. 'Fry, how can you love me, I'm a robot!' 'Well, hel-lo, sexy robot mama...' 'Don't touch me, Bender!' *BONG!* 'OW!'

In the end, the Prof repairs the machine, Leela gets human again, and she and Fry have a tearful but happy reunion. And the shippiness meter goes off the scale. Cue the music. big grin

How's that sound?
Svip

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« Reply #406 on: 05-08-2010 00:10 »

As a final note, I have a question to ask Svip. Do you know the average number of scenes in a Futurama episode? I'd like to know since it might help pinpoint when this robot is introduced (says it is scene 278, occurring during the third act).

Now, well, I must admit, I am not entirely sure about this, but I know a few things about animation.

For one, a scene in animation is the same as a scene in live action.  In live action, a scene is usually a new location (room, etc.), but it can contain a lot of cuts and such (hell, in some cases a scene is still considered the same scene even if there is a cutaway to another scene in the scene), but that's not how it works in animation.

In animation, a scene is the same scene as long as the background has not changed.  So when it says scene 278, it must mean that is the Leela-Bot's first scene appearance, because, well, you can't have it only appear in like one animation scene.

This is also why the number is so high, because if we were to count the scenes in regular fashion (live action fashion), the amount would be drastic lower than 278.  Higher than you might think, but not around there.

Now, in all honesty, I have not counted scenes on Futurama, so I don't know the amount in a regular episode.  And in addition to that, I don't know if this is scene 278 in the whole episode or just in Act III.  Act III could quite possibly have a lot of cuts here and there.

Basically, without knowing the content, the number is quite curious.  But let's say it is episode (and not act) scene numbers we are dealing with, an educated guess about the amount of scenes in a regular Futurama episode would be between 300 and 400.
Gorky

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« Reply #407 on: 05-08-2010 05:25 »

That is a creepy drawing. Kind of reminds me of the cyborg-y, Terminator-type robots from that episode of The Simpsons, "Itchy and Scratchy Land".

Anyway, I think El-Man's on to something, both with his speculation about the machine malfunctioning before it can, uh, rebirth Leela, and the possible shippy ramifications.
El-Man

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« Reply #408 on: 05-08-2010 05:59 »

Some additional thoughts about the Leela-bot - it's quite thin and more 'robot' looking than the fembots we've seen. Either it was designed that way so to be less appealing physically, or it's an endoskeleton for something to fit over?
Freako

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« Reply #409 on: 05-08-2010 08:48 »

How long until Robot Leela gets 34'd?

*Starts timer*
Nutmeg1729

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« Reply #410 on: 05-08-2010 08:52 »

Oh god, another image I totally didn't need.

Juliet

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« Reply #411 on: 05-08-2010 10:50 »

The Leela robot looks really scary. She might be a killer machine
FistfulOAwesome

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« Reply #412 on: 05-08-2010 17:32 »

If they needed that why not use her head? Something must have happened to her.

Maybe the heads expire after a set amount of time, and with the malfunction, the Prof has to put her brain in something - more dramatic than a simple glass jar, like what happened to Hermes in BBS (even though it would make more sense). So Leela wakes up in a robot body, and we get the soul-searching from both her and Fry. 'Fry, how can you love me, I'm a robot!' 'Well, hel-lo, sexy robot mama...' 'Don't touch me, Bender!' *BONG!* 'OW!'

In the end, the Prof repairs the machine, Leela gets human again, and she and Fry have a tearful but happy reunion. And the shippiness meter goes off the scale. Cue the music. big grin

How's that sound?

That does sound like something that could happen. I'm not sure I would care if it did. I already know that Fry and Leela care about each other so I didn't need most the crew killed to be retold this (if that is indeed the end point of this episode). I'm certainly not sure whether what you pitched would be any more/as emotionally affecting than/as some of the series best.

Really, I just want to know what the point of Rebirth is. Matt didn't care about the wormhole, DXC did and had that Inter-dimensional Zoo story to address it, then suddenly Matt decides he does care and pitches Rebirth. Why? What makes Rebirth a better, more worthy return for the TV series than the Zoo story? As much as any other fan, I want to see the episode so I can finally know if it lives up to my expectations (which are all over the place).

As a final note, I have a question to ask Svip. Do you know the average number of scenes in a Futurama episode?
an educated guess about the amount of scenes in a regular Futurama episode would be between 300 and 400.

I guess based on that I'd say the Robot appears very early in the third act. That makes sense anyway since Rebirth likely doesn't lead into 602 so they'd need to introduce the Leela-bot, use it, and then discard it, which would probably need the majority of the act. Thanks.

Some additional thoughts about the Leela-bot - it's quite thin and more 'robot' looking than the fembots we've seen. Either it was designed that way so to be less appealing physically, or it's an endoskeleton for something to fit over?

Interesting thought, but I doubt that The Professor would simply staple Leela's new flesh to a robotic skeleton. If he can create new flesh, it shouldn't be any more difficult to create new bones (i.e. an entire recreation of her body).

How long until Robot Leela gets 34'd?

*Starts timer*

I keep refreshing your fan art thread but I see you haven't finished anything yet. WHY ARE YOU HOLDING OUT ON US LIKE THIS!?
Tedward

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« Reply #413 on: 05-08-2010 18:19 »

Really, I just want to know what the point of Rebirth is. Matt didn't care about the wormhole, DXC did and had that Inter-dimensional Zoo story to address it, then suddenly Matt decides he does care and pitches Rebirth. Why? What makes Rebirth a better, more worthy return for the TV series than the Zoo story? As much as any other fan, I want to see the episode so I can finally know if it lives up to my expectations (which are all over the place).

Yeah, that's bothering me too. I assume you still are hoping that the whole rebirthing matter means something, not necessarily completely earth-shattering, but significant enough to justify it as a plot, correct? I know we've discussed this before, but each new development keeps bringing me back to that thought process.
i_c_weiner

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« Reply #414 on: 05-08-2010 18:39 »

How long until Robot Leela gets 34'd?

*Starts timer*
I'd really like to grind her gears.

I'd really like to have some time to tinker with her.

I wonder how many inputs she has.

I'm going to corrupt her files.

I wonder if I'll be electrocuted.

...

I'd really like to overclock her.
Gorky

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« Reply #415 on: 05-08-2010 20:11 »

Yeah, that's bothering me too. I assume you still are hoping that the whole rebirthing matter means something, not necessarily completely earth-shattering, but significant enough to justify it as a plot, correct? I know we've discussed this before, but each new development keeps bringing me back to that thought process.

I thought the zoo plot sounded really cool, so I'm with FoA: "Rebirth" better exceed the expectations I had for that zoo episode. I know that's not fair--and I know I'm going to be satisfied with whatever we get, because it's new Futurama and that's always exciting--but I think the writers are up to the challenge. Or at least I hope they are.
Nutmeg1729

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« Reply #416 on: 05-08-2010 20:17 »

I've heard DXC talking about it, and I've also heard him saying that it was a terrible idea, but for the life of me I can't actually remember what that episode was going to be about.

So really I have nothing to compare ideas with, and I don't really have any expectations for Rebirth, I'm just going to watch it and see how they've decided they're going to do this. It'll be good to see how much of these speculations are right though. From experience, and watching the commentaries, Futurama fans are apparently good at figuring things out.
El-Man

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« Reply #417 on: 05-09-2010 03:56 »

Interesting thought, but I doubt that The Professor would simply staple Leela's new flesh to a robotic skeleton. If he can create new flesh, it shouldn't be any more difficult to create new bones (i.e. an entire recreation of her body).

I doubt it too, I was thinking more along the lines of a quick and dirty outer layer, something rubber and plastic. Which would probably upset Leela even more than just the robot look. Ooh, more drama.
FistfulOAwesome

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« Reply #418 on: 05-09-2010 18:55 »

I hope that CCInsider's post tomorrow has to do with 602 or 603 or any 6th season episode that isn't Rebirth. The majority of this thread has been Rebirth speculation and I think we could all use a change of pace. Maybe we can be wrong about a different episode tomorrow! Cross your fingers!
Binder

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« Reply #419 on: 05-10-2010 20:47 »
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Ooooh! Boards!  big grin

My take on it: Bender post-birthing. The joke is probably that he was just birthed yet the excruciating process has him saying "I'm dying".

Note: Zapp and Kiff/Amy/Leela's legs? Looks like they've been birthed before the end of Act 1.
Svip

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« Reply #420 on: 05-10-2010 21:20 »

That still seems to support the theory that they are birthed in the order from right to left, since Kif and Zapp are alway alive.

If we follow this theory, then it can't be Amy, as she needs rebirthing after Bender following the line up.  And since we know about the Leela Robot, it cannot possibly be Leela.
Tedward

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« Reply #421 on: 05-10-2010 21:24 »

Maybe we can be wrong about a different episode tomorrow!

Oh well, there will be something else eventually, I'd imagine...

Note: Zapp and Kiff/Amy/Leela's legs? Looks like they've been birthed before the end of Act 1.

I'd guess Zapp and Kif. The one pair of legs looks too skinny to belong to anyone but Kif. Plus, what Svip said.
FistfulOAwesome

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« Reply #422 on: 05-10-2010 22:10 »
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Oh Monkey Trumpets! Guess I'll get back to the old grind.

Add another to the Kif/Zapp vote. Those are definitely Kif's skinny legs and Zapp's fat legs (based on their look in previous episodes and the way the towel is draping over them (Zapp held it the same way in 217)).

It's a little weird that Bender was thrust into the machine along with the meatbags. That's a special kind of machine The Professor built that reconstitutes metal and wires as well as flesh and bones. That said, what Bender says is funny enough (also that goo (Birth Wax: make your robot shine like new!) has a gross humor to it) that's it's probably worth the strangeness of not simply buying him a new body.

Considering that some if not all the characters are alive and well at the end of Act 1 and the Leela-bot is in Act III, I'd say we have little to no knowledge of what happens in Act II. There's a lot of interesting stuff that could fill that time-slot. Here's a guess: What if Leela is birthed along with the others but her mutant DNA makes her new body unstable? That could lead to complications that lead to her mind being stored in the bot while The Professor tries to stabilize her body.

Edit: Hey Binder! You held out on us man! There's 6 more pages posted on CCI's site. The scene continues on with Mouth-to-Ass resuscitation: http://ccinsider.comedycentral.com/2010/05/10/countdown-to-futurama-mouth-to-ass-storyboard/#more-17576
El-Man

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« Reply #423 on: 05-10-2010 22:24 »

It could also be Hermes' legs, following the reverse order sequence. Also agree that's not Amy, she has better legs than that. smile
MightyBooshFan91

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« Reply #424 on: 05-10-2010 22:52 »

Mouth to ass resuscitation sounds like a Family Guy type joke...I hope Futurama doesn't end up going down that route...
Binder

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« Reply #425 on: 05-10-2010 22:56 »
« Last Edit on: 05-10-2010 22:59 »

Edit: Hey Binder! You held out on us man! There's 6 more pages posted on CCI's site. The scene continues on with Mouth-to-Ass resuscitation: http://ccinsider.comedycentral.com/2010/05/10/countdown-to-futurama-mouth-to-ass-storyboard/#more-17576

Oh, dip! I did not see those other pages! Well, thank goodness I didn't hold out on posting something crazy revealing. Just some good old mouth to ass action.

I doubt Futurama will go the Family Guy route. We're safe. Until Fry begins each scene with "Remember that time (insert celebrity name here) met (insert the cast of an 80's sitcom here)?" Then, we are NOT safe.

edit: sweet zombie jesus! I've been a member here for nearly ten years! Joined just a week before 9/11...
Frisco17

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« Reply #426 on: 05-10-2010 22:57 »

Mouth to ass resuscitation sounds like a Family Guy type joke...I hope Futurama doesn't end up going down that route...

If it wasn't Bender we were talking about I would agree with you but his world revolves around his ass so it sort of makes sense.
Binder

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« Reply #427 on: 05-10-2010 23:01 »

Looks like the professor could be coming into the last frame with an easy way to revive Bender (just a guess)
Svip

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« Reply #428 on: 05-10-2010 23:10 »

Mouth to ass resuscitation sounds like a Family Guy type joke...I hope Futurama doesn't end up going down that route...

In my experience, Futurama has made plenty of ass jokes.  Remember the commentary for "My Three Suns", when Fry reveals the picture for "Fry's Assassin's Assassin"?  To which they respond; 'that was just an excuse to have 'ass' appear four times in one scene'.

The ass ratio has always been high on Futurama
JavieR

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« Reply #429 on: 05-10-2010 23:13 »

The full scene sounds funny:

Bender: "I need mouth-to-ass resuscitation"
Fry: "I'm on it!"
[Fry performs mouth-to-ass resuscitation off-screen]
Fry: "It's not working"
Bender: "I die happy, knowing you felt for that"
Jezzem

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« Reply #430 on: 05-10-2010 23:20 »

Mouth to ass resuscitation sounds like a Family Guy type joke...I hope Futurama doesn't end up going down that route...

I can see this sort of comment being thrown around after every new episode airs in response to any joke that seems the least bit random or dirty.
MightyBooshFan91

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« Reply #431 on: 05-10-2010 23:42 »
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The ass ratio has always been high on Futurama

I suppose you're right, plus it'll probably be funnier in context and it IS Bender who says it.
As for saying that about any dirty joke...CC will probably let then get away with more and I'm ok with that as long as the jokes are still funny. My problem is when the jokes aren't funny and they just see how far they can push the envelope...I don't want to see that. I personally think the mouth to ass thing is just gonna be a cheap gag that is unnecessary (but still funny, kinda like old FG).
  
homerjaysimpson

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« Reply #432 on: 05-10-2010 23:50 »

Mouth to ass resuscitation sounds like a Family Guy type joke...I hope Futurama doesn't end up going down that route...

I bet you 50 bucks the new episodes will be worse than the movies.:P
JavieR

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« Reply #433 on: 05-11-2010 00:01 »

This is a robot/human cartoon interaction, so is not that shocking imo
Svip

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« Reply #434 on: 05-11-2010 00:01 »

Mouth to ass resuscitation sounds like a Family Guy type joke...I hope Futurama doesn't end up going down that route...

I bet you 50 bucks the new episodes will be worse than the movies.:P

You got it.  I am looking forward to these 50 dollars.
Gorky

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« Reply #435 on: 05-11-2010 00:12 »

I see nothing wrong with mouth-to-ass resuscitation...both in an episode of Futurama, and in the practice of medical medicine.
Svip

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« Reply #436 on: 05-11-2010 00:15 »

Mouth to ass resuscitation sounds like a Family Guy type joke...I hope Futurama doesn't end up going down that route...

I can see this sort of comment being thrown around after every new episode airs in response to any joke that seems the least bit random or dirty.

I really gotta stress is what I appreciate.  While Futurama should never subdue itself to Family Guy's level, it should also not entirely avoid anything Family Guy because they did it or because they are known for it.  Act your own.
MightyBooshFan91

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« Reply #437 on: 05-11-2010 00:15 »

I don't think I made my point well at all but anyways...I'm sure the new Futurama will be as hilarious as ever and not suck.

Hopefully, tomorrows post will have something to do with another episode, 'cause it'd be nice not to have the whole plot of the comeback ruined before it's shown.
Gorky

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« Reply #438 on: 05-11-2010 00:20 »

I don't mind all this "Rebirth" teasin'--they're giving us just enough to fuel some pretty nice speculation, without really spoiling the plot. That said, I'm sure they'll eventually move on to the other episodes of the season--probably some time this week. (And yes, that's pure speculation.)
Freako

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« Reply #439 on: 05-11-2010 00:23 »

I friggin' lol'd.
"I die happy, knowing you fell for that."
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