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i_c_weiner

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« #365 : 04-19-2010 22:59 »
« : 04-19-2010 23:02 »
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I think this is just a business choice by Comedy Central. They have more control in deciding when episodes air than the production staff. Think about how it'll be promoted: "Futurama is back June 24th with TWO NEW EPISODES!" It's enticing, like a two-for-one special. Gets people to watch both, and stick around on the channel for The Daily Show etc.
And I don't think they'd do a two parter so early in the new run. The best way to attract a new audience on a channel such as Comedy Central is to allow a viewer to watch episodes independently. It's the classic sitcom formula, such as Fry said in When Aliens Attack, and shows in that formula make up most of Comedy Central's schedule. I'm not saying that there won't be any mythology, but there won't be any story arcs or two parters like most sci-fi shows have. I mean, look back on the original run; were there any two parters or multi-episode arcs in the traditional sci-fi sense? Did stories continue or have reference in the immediately following episodes? Sure, we have the origins mythology in episodes Space Pilot 3000, The Day The Earth, Roswell That Ends Well Stood Stupid, and The Why of Fry (and one could include Nibbler's introduction in Love's Labours Lost in Space if they wanted or Nibbler's Easter Egg-like appearance in Jurassic Bark), but that's four episodes over seventy-two episodes / four seasons. To go off and start doing two-parters and multi-episode story arcs with the premiere of new episodes would go against the basic formula of episodic Futurama itself.
So, recap: I think the two episodes are unrelated entirely and the choice of a double-header premiere is a business decision. I feel like Rebirth will tie the loose end of Into the Wild Green Yonder during the first act and quickly go onto a different story, like Bender's Big Score did, and the second episode will not reference Rebirth at all. However, I do expect some mythology episodes during this new run. Like two or three over these 26 episodes.
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FistfulOAwesome

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« #373 : 04-23-2010 23:52 »
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welcome back, Fistful!
Duly noted. I have missed Fistful too.
If this is your guys way to distract me with with flattery while one of you steals cash from my purse, consider me blushed and poor. I may not despise Pauly Shore as much as him, but when he posts. Oh, you know he posts.
Also, Fistful, that is only when Beck doesn't know how it ends! So blame the writers for not knowing how the episodes end.
I blame the writers for not crafting my jokes so they'd be funny and understandable. Maybe if I said Rush instead? Svip, I'm surprised that something you associate with me is "hate of Pauly Shore". I didn't like his appearance on Futurama (though, I'm certainly not alone there) but I have nothing against the guy. I actually kinda like him (or at least I enjoyed Encino Man). Hmm, I wonder if that dark secret revealed is enough reason for me to exile myself again?
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Juliet

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« #374 : 05-05-2010 18:40 »
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so here the first sceen cap from the episode Rebirth.
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FistfulOAwesome

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« #378 : 05-05-2010 20:28 »
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It's a joke that's been bothering me for months (although strange that I didn't notice till now that it's even more unlikely for Kif's fluid-filled bladders to have survived (maybe because I don't care about Kif)). I know it shouldn't, I know that there's been unlikely, illogical things done in the series (hell, I referenced Cubert's Rants, the entire point of which is to search for those previously mentioned things), but for some reason this really bothers me. I would have been happier if nothing but the heads survived. Berate me as needed. As for the MS Paint thing, I just mean the whole fuzziness the characters have going on (especially Bender). Reminds me of the level "Touch Fuzzy, Get Dizzy" from Yoshi's Island ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWxLT4PcQjo#t=0m47s).
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Tedward

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« #392 : 05-06-2010 22:36 »
« : 05-06-2010 22:38 »
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Me? I didn't come up with anything great this time, but thanks anyway...  But yes, ramification-confronting would (and should) be neat. Note how the crew is almost in the reverse order of desirability for Fry (Zoidberg being the exception). Leela will possibly be the last one out... a little tension heightener there.
Hey, that's a good observation! You'd think Bender might be second, though...and it has been mentioned (albeit through jokes) that Fry is somehow and for some reason closer to Scruffy...
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FistfulOAwesome

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« #394 : 05-06-2010 23:35 »
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I have two more points of speculation to offer (both based on the likelyhood of a late act 1/early act 2 rebirthing) and two responses. To anybody who thought that the characters might have some memory loss, your thoughts are slightly more likely to be true than they were yesterday. If the characters were revived at the end of Rebirth rather than nearer to the middle than there would be no need to waste time with a memory loss development. But since they are likely being rebirthed near the middle of the episode it seems to be the writers intentions to introduce them/Futurama to a new Comedy Central audience (although I think it unlikely that any regular Comedy Central viewer hasn't caught at least a few episodes in the nearly 2 and a half years it's run on the network (especially with the movies airing fairly often). If this is true, it's probably what was meant by the various reports of Matt Groening being inspired by Star Trek XI to pitch the story. Since the characters are likely rebirthed somewhere near the middle of the episode rather than the end, then it also seems likely that 602 (which many think is the Eden-like planet episode) does not have anything to do with Rebirth. If it had, then Zapp and Leela would have been rebirthed near the end (along with the others) and then snatched by an alien being or something. Oh well. I like Tedward's idea: by getting the rebirthing part out of the way by the end of act one or the beginning of act two, I feel like the writers can then focus on that whole fugitive thing (I'm expecting a pardon from Zapp), and the Fry/Leela aspect--basically, tie up all those loose ends from ItWGY. In fact, by not allowing the rebirth itself to take up most of the episode, the writers are kind of forced to confront the ramifications of the events of ItWGY. Or at least that's my hope.
But then what would have been the point of the rebirths? They could have just had the P.E. crew crash, step out of the ship, and apprehended by the NNY Police and Zapp Brannigan, continuing on court scenes. Alternatively, that interdimensional Zoo storyline of DXC's would have worked too. I don't really care that much about tying up ITWGY's loose ends. In fact, to me the only loose ends are the wormhole and the Encyclopod's suggestion that humanity is a dying species. The wormhole business is dealt with in the first three minutes and I'm perfectly happy to let the Encyclopod/human extinction business be let off for now to later be developed into a proper episode (maybe even arc). That leaves me hoping the writers focus on the rebirths and their after-effects to the best of their storytelling abilities. Speculation for how the characters are "Rebirthed" is basically over. CCInsider just posted a prop sketch for a "Birthing Device": http://ccinsider.comedycentral.com/files/2010/05/601-Birthing-Device.jpg
I was thinking there was going to be some kinda tight rubber orifice they were going to be squeezed out of.
They still might. The way the orifice segments jut out seems to suggest it might be rubber rather than metal.
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El-Man

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« #395 : 05-06-2010 23:50 »
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They still might. The way the orifice segments jut out seems to suggest it might be rubber rather than metal.
I concur with Fistful. First maybe a zapping from the 'electrodes' up top, then a regrowing inside the tank, and a final squeezing out through that orifice. There's the literal rebirth DXC was talking about. But if this wasn't animated I'd question why Bender was in the tank too. Surely a new Bending Unit body could be purchased off eBay.  Fry: Umm, Professor, why is Bender in there too? He's a robot! Prof: Hu-wha? Oh my, yes, you're right. Oh well. *activates machine*
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