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Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #40 on: 06-11-2009 01:08 »

I think we can all agree that there should be some more Anthologies of Interest, amirite?

Indeed, well at least one more so that we'll have a trilogy of trilogies! Another Xmas episode too perhaps for good measure...
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« Reply #41 on: 06-11-2009 03:30 »

I think it would be interesting if they didn't do an Xmas episode for the first season of these new episodes but fleshed the Chanukah Zombie character into an episode. I think Mark would love to come back for a reprise and would be fun; he even took part in the commentary for his guest starring on The Simpsons in Season 10. Would make for a good commentary if he did it, possibly listening to some geekdom from DXC and some voice jokes with him, Billy, and John.

And remember, we have (basically) two seasons worth of episodes to get all of our dreams to come true, and we "just" got an Xmas fix from Bender's Big Score with two new songs and the Elves even showing up. It would be fun to see CZ the first season and then a new Xmas episode second season.
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« Reply #42 on: 06-11-2009 03:44 »

 
I think we can all agree that there should be some more Anthologies of Interest, amirite?

Absolutely some of the best episodes were the Anthologies.

Agreed. I mean my favorite episode is AOI 1.
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« Reply #43 on: 06-11-2009 04:10 »

I think it would be interesting if they didn't do an Xmas episode for the first season of these new episodes but fleshed the Chanukah Zombie character into an episode...

Chanukah?  Sigh... I've been givin' these "What The Hell Is Kwanzaa?" books out for 647 years!
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« Reply #44 on: 06-11-2009 04:12 »
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I just don't see as much funny coming from Kwanzaa as I do from Chanukah. Jewish jokes are usually funnier and less frowned upon than black jokes.
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« Reply #45 on: 06-11-2009 05:57 »

I just don't see as much funny coming from Kwanzaa as I do from Chanukah. Jewish jokes are usually funnier and less frowned upon than black jokes.

I agree- the only joke they could actually use about Kwanzaa would be the one that was already used during Kwanzaa Bot's first appearance.

Now, about future "Anthologies of Interest"... I just wanted to bring up a few notes/assumptions on patterns, continuity, and possible tales in those episodes (also I just wanted to get these down for the record).
- We all pretty much assume by now that Fry, Leela, and Bender are the three that get to axe a single "What if" question every year. However, there is no particular order to how they are presented to each axer.
- I can assume that Bender's "What if" will always be about him taking on some crazy form.
- I can also assume that Bender will die in his "What if" scenario, with his death inspiring all around him. Upon him dying, somebody will say in honor of him to him, "Goodnight, Sweet Prince."
- From this last line, I do believe that one "What if" question that Bender would have to pose would lead to a Hamlet spoof (that is where the line originated).
- I know on the commentary for "Anthology of Interest II", they brought up that the characters on Futurama were designed to match the characters in "The Wizard of Oz" (which they spoofed in the episode) and "Gilligan's Isle". So, we should expect "Gilligan's Isle" to be spoofed soon, and most likely on an "Anthology of Interest".
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« Reply #46 on: 06-11-2009 12:42 »

Someone's been doing her research...
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« Reply #47 on: 06-11-2009 15:18 »

They should totally do a mailbag session where the characters read out (and often respond to) letters sent in by the fans.

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« Reply #48 on: 06-11-2009 15:19 »

Yeah, a 48 hour marathon would be made out of it at Christmas.
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« Reply #49 on: 06-11-2009 19:43 »

Blah blah blah nibbler's shadow blah blah blah memories erased

He said it first. 
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« Reply #50 on: 06-11-2009 20:16 »

All I can taste is purple...
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« Reply #51 on: 06-11-2009 20:31 »

Is everybody who thinks that Nibbler would erase their memories forgetting that over 300 creatures saw the birth of the Encyclopod? The Nibblonians would have to erase the memories of those people too.

Also, why would they? The Nibblonians only erased Fry's memory so he wouldn't blab about them. They were not involved in the Purple Dwarf Star event so what does it matter. They are still secret (only a select few know of their existence and no non-Nibblonian knows where Eternium is).
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« Reply #52 on: 06-11-2009 20:36 »

What if they hit the reset button by VIA the What If machine?



The Professor: "So that's what life would have been like if our lives where more like a movie"........or something along those lines




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« Reply #53 on: 06-11-2009 21:05 »

What if the new season begins with a scene of the What If machine with the Professor sleeping next to it. He then wakes up and it turns out that all 4 movies were just What If questions he'd asked when he spoke in his sleep...
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« Reply #54 on: 06-11-2009 21:15 »

You two better be joking. That would be such a lame cop-out. I'd stop watching immediately if that happened.
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« Reply #55 on: 06-11-2009 21:17 »

LOL....i def don't want that to happen........just speculating
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« Reply #56 on: 06-11-2009 21:21 »

You two better be joking. That would be such a lame cop-out. I'd stop watching immediately if that happened.

But in reality, that is what the life we are living right now is.
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« Reply #57 on: 06-11-2009 21:28 »

You two better be joking. That would be such a lame cop-out. I'd stop watching immediately if that happened.

But in reality, that is what the life we are living right now is.
isn't that a contradiction?
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« Reply #58 on: 06-11-2009 22:06 »

You two better be joking. That would be such a lame cop-out. I'd stop watching immediately if that happened.

But in reality, that is what the life we are living right now is.
isn't that a contradiction?

No.  It's my illusion!
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« Reply #59 on: 06-11-2009 22:22 »
« Last Edit on: 06-11-2009 22:23 »

You know what I'd really like to see, at least once, in these new episodes? A mention of Lars. Even if it's in passing, even if it's just Leela acknowledging that his existence helped her to see how much Fry truly meant to her. I don't need some mushy-gushy call-back, just something on-par with Fry's mention, in TDHaIP, of "those stomach worms that made me smart." It's so strange to me that the last three movies made absolutely no mention of Lars--not even in TBWaBB when Leela was comforting Amy, who had just lost a man she loved.

Plus, I think a call-back to Lars would help provide some context for Leela's seemingly sudden admission of love at the end of ItWGY.
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« Reply #60 on: 06-11-2009 22:26 »

You know what I'd really like to see, at least once, in these new episodes? A mention of Lars. Even if it's in passing, even if it's just Leela acknowledging that his existence helped her to see how much Fry truly meant to her. I don't need some mushy-gushy call-back, just something on-par with Fry's mention, in TDHaIP, of "those stomach worms that made me smart." It's so strange to me that the last three movies made absolutely no mention of Lars--not even in TBWaBB when Leela was comforting Amy, who had just lost a man she loved.

Plus, I think a call-back to Lars would help provide some context for Leela's seemingly sudden admission of love at the end of ItWGY.

No. No. Never. Never in a thousand, no, a million years, no, for all of the existences of existences, should they bring up that doppleganger again. Seriously.
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« Reply #61 on: 06-11-2009 22:28 »

Hmm...you seem pretty adamant. tongue

I know lots of people weren't crazy about BBS--and I have no desire to get into a debate about the nature of Lars--but I think Leela openly admitting that his presence made a difference to the ship would at least validate the character's existence somewhat.
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« Reply #62 on: 06-11-2009 22:33 »

[...] but I think Leela openly admitting that his presence made a difference to the ship would at least validate the character's existence somewhat.

Do we have to?
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« Reply #63 on: 06-11-2009 22:40 »

You two better be joking. That would be such a lame cop-out. I'd stop watching immediately if that happened.

But in reality, that is what the life we are living right now is.
isn't that a contradiction?

No.  It's my illusion!
i see.
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« Reply #64 on: 06-11-2009 23:08 »

[...] but I think Leela openly admitting that his presence made a difference to the ship would at least validate the character's existence somewhat.

Do we have to?

No, Leela is the type to hide her feelings most of the time.  Fry is the only person she trusts enough to drop the act.  She would think that mentioning Lars to Fry may hurt his feelings and decide it's not worth mentioning.

Besides, having to mention any of the movies would be a great disservice to the "new and improved" Futurama seeries.

@ Frida Waterfall:

In another "Anthology" segment (have one a season would be neat), of course Leela would find some wicked way to kill Amy.  It's almost a habit for Leela to do so.

As for Fry and Leela sharing a bed, they did that back in The Crime Is Unsolvable.
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« Reply #65 on: 06-11-2009 23:17 »

No, Leela is the type to hide her feelings most of the time.  Fry is the only person she trusts enough to drop the act.  She would think that mentioning Lars to Fry may hurt his feelings and decide it's not worth mentioning.

Besides, having to mention any of the movies would be a great disservice to the "new and improved" Futurama seeries.

I suppose you have a point there. I don't want a clumsy rehash of major movie plot-points; I just thought a brief mention of Lars would be nice for continuity's sake. But you're right; Leela might wind up sounding insensitive. Not that the writers have ever been bothered by that before...

I guess the never-mentioning-Lars-again thing only bothers me so much because his ghost (metaphorically speaking) plays a part in a lot of post-BBS fanfic. I don't know if shippers like myself attribute too much importance to Lars's existence, but that's certainly a possibility. I guess it's also possible that the writers wanted to let Lars's existence speak for itself; clearly it helped the ship to progress, but overtly explaining it in the series may be seen as unnecessary. Which, probably, it is; my desire for a call-back is kind of self-indulgent anyway.
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« Reply #66 on: 06-11-2009 23:24 »

@ Gorky:

No, not self-indulgent at all.  There are parts of Futurama that each of us wish got mentioned.  FOr me, what happened after Devil's Hands is the sore spot for me.  It was a beautiful (yet open-ended) conclusion if the series didn't come back.  I feel the writers messed up by not even mentioning it.

Truth to tell, that's the main thing that poisoned me against BBS.
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« Reply #67 on: 06-11-2009 23:43 »

FOr me, what happened after Devil's Hands is the sore spot for me.  It was a beautiful (yet open-ended) conclusion if the series didn't come back.  I feel the writers messed up by not even mentioning it.

I completely agree with you there; BBS definitely took some of the sheen off of Devil's Hands. That's sort of how I feel about never mentioning Lars again: it certainly won't make me like the new episodes any less, but it would be nice to have a brief call-back, seeing as how the writers figured Lars was an important enough character to mess with established continuity for.

Damn dangling preposition...I hope my point remains valid. wink
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« Reply #68 on: 06-11-2009 23:57 »

Blah blah blah nibbler's shadow blah blah blah memories erased

He said it first. 

Yes, yes I did, you all remember that now.
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« Reply #69 on: 06-11-2009 23:58 »
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Gorky: You've made a lot of mention of how Lars was one of the final pushes Leela reveal to herself how important Fry is to her, but did you ever stop to think that it's weird that a version of Fry needed to die in order for that to happen? That seems a bit far (though admittedly, Fry has sacrificed himself many times to prove his love for her).

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but it would be nice to have a brief call-back, seeing as how the writers figured Lars was an important enough character to mess with established continuity for.

Edit because of coldangel_1 (original lines in Italic):They also thought that an OOC story revolving around a giant, tentacle monster was worth breaking continuity for, so he might not mean much.

Also, just to be clear: When we say we don't care if they mention the movies we all mean the first three, right? Because I was under the assumption that we all wanted some resolution to the ending of ITWGY (plus it's the only one that is universally accepted as good. Hell, great!).
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« Reply #70 on: 06-12-2009 00:04 »
« Last Edit on: 06-12-2009 00:14 by coldangel_1 »

How did Yivo break continuity?

Edit: I'm still not sure you know what continuity is.
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« Reply #71 on: 06-12-2009 00:08 »

Gorky: You've made a lot of mention of how Lars was one of the final pushes Leela reveal to herself how important Fry is to her, but did you ever stop to think that it's weird that a version of Fry needed to die in order for that to happen? That seems a bit far (though admittedly, Fry has sacrificed himself many times to prove his love for her).

I don't think Lars's death was what caused Leela to more closely examine her feelings about Fry. Yeah, that's how she discovered Lars's true identity--what with the seared-off pants and the lovely ass-tattoo shot--and this discovery is what prompted her to consider Fry more seriously as a romantic possiblity. But what's to say that, had she learned the truth sooner, she would have stayed with Lars? I've sometimes wondered (since I'm a dork with way too much free time on her hands) how Leela would have reacted to the news that Lars was Fry had it come before Lars's death.

My point, I guess, is that Leela fell for Lars pretty damn quickly; his self-sacrifice at the end of the movie isn't specifically what causes her to deem him (and thus Fry) "a good man."
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« Reply #72 on: 06-12-2009 01:27 »

From Wikipedia: In fiction, continuity (also called time-scheme) is consistency of the characteristics of persons, plot, objects, places and events seen by the reader or viewer.

And since I love linking to it: http://www.peelified.com/index.php?topic=17266.msg1021948#msg1021948
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« Reply #73 on: 06-12-2009 03:26 »

I really think the show would suffer if Fry and Leela stayed together because you would almost be forced to put in lame network sitcom jokes about relationships. The great thing with Futurama is that Cohen and Groening will never let it turn into a mundane piece of crap. The new life of Futurama on Comedy Central not major network T.V. will hopefully allow them to push the limits and explore plotlines and jokes that the Fox censors wouldn't have allowed.

No matter what, the people on the boards and the people who have supported Futurama from the beginning have now pulled off a second miracle and I'm confident we will be rewarded with new classics every week.
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« Reply #74 on: 06-12-2009 03:38 »

I really think the show would suffer if Fry and Leela stayed together because you would almost be forced to put in lame network sitcom jokes about relationships.

I think the show would suffer more if the writers hit that ever-so-tempting reset button and ignored the progress that appeared to be made at the end of ItWGY.
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« Reply #75 on: 06-12-2009 03:51 »

I don't think Futurama relationships have ever been conventional enough to become lame.
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« Reply #76 on: 06-12-2009 03:56 »

I would like to see a big Futurama event at Comic Con, or even better a Futurama Cruise. They are having a "Twilight" cruise so why not Futurama? Or some kind of Futurama-Sandwich promotion, where we all go buy $5 sandwiches of questionable quality and then the show knows we love them. There is a truck stop near my house, and we can all go there and eat egg sandwiches. Who's with me?!
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« Reply #77 on: 06-12-2009 04:21 »

I'm up for it.


I'd like to see an episode dedicated to Star Wars like how WNFHGB was to Trek. Rope Mark Hammil in. Maybe not as a head though, that's getting old; perhaps as a cryogenic defrostee.
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« Reply #78 on: 06-12-2009 04:29 »

I'd like to see an episode dedicated to Star Wars like how WNFHGB was to Trek. Rope Mark Hammil in. Maybe not as a head though, that's getting old; perhaps as a cryogenic defrostee.

I've wanted them to do something like that for a while actually. I'd be surprised if they did though considering the number of Star Wars references they made in BBS.

Also, VF's back!
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« Reply #79 on: 06-12-2009 04:34 »

I would like to see a big Futurama event at Comic Con, or even better a Futurama Cruise. They are having a "Twilight" cruise so why not Futurama? Or some kind of Futurama-Sandwich promotion, where we all go buy $5 sandwiches of questionable quality and then the show knows we love them. There is a truck stop near my house, and we can all go there and eat egg sandwiches. Who's with me?!

VF!  You're still alive! You've not been around for so long, I thought a vampire got you.  Or you fell in love, got married and was walking around "with child".  (The vampire one would be much more preferable.)

The truck stop.  Believe me when I say I have eaten much, much worse than they're capable of serving, so I'll hitch a ride with Coldy.
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